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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending Body Burnout show. We are your host, Chris and Filly, co-founders of a multi winning functional medicine practice serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
Well, business, addictive doing, people pleasing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
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Filly
So get ready to heal your body, get your spark back deeply, connect with yourself, and step into the life of your dreams.
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Chris
Let's dive in.
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Chris
Hello everyone! Welcome to this episode of Anybody Been Out? Show. Today we have a connect the dots.
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Filly
Yeah. Yeah. If you are new to the podcast, every now and then we'll do a Connect the Dots episode, which is essentially taking a listeners case and putting our detective hats on and talking about what might be happening underneath the surface. Both physically and also metaphysically. So today we are doing an episode around autonomic nervous system dysregulation that is an actual condition, Potts and vestibular migraine.
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Filly
So a very big thank you to Amy for sending this one in. Just FYI, I especially if you I mean, we always do this disclaimer at the start of it connect the dots episode. But this is not like first and foremost for the listener who sent this in. This is an advice giving. Really, we would need to sit down with you for a 90 minute, one on one connect the dots session in order to then be able to gauge what is actually going on and where to go to in terms of testing and treatment and that sort of stuff.
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Filly
So and also for any listeners who might have similar symptoms, we're not saying that this is exactly what's happening underneath the surface. This is where having a deep conversation with the person in real life is going to give us more dots on the page to connect. So essentially, when people sending it connect the dots case, they feeling a little form that we have to submit the case to the podcast.
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Filly
We try and keep it quite short and sweet. So it's not overwhelming to feel in, but it also means that there's a lot of, unsaid data points that could make me think something completely different to what we have presented in the episode today. So really, we're just taking the information that we have more so from the place of educational purposes and inspirational purposes to looking at at these symptoms, these conditions in, in a different way to what you might have been looking at them.
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Chris
Boom diggity.
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Filly
Okay. Sorry. Also, FYI, if you want to submit your own case for connect the dots, there is a link in the show notes where you can get sent to that application form, and we will hopefully present your case on the podcast in the future. Okay, so I love to dive in. First of all, to, just breaking down what symptoms this person is experiencing.
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Filly
When it started, what they've tried so far. And then we'll take it from there in terms of what we think is going on and, and where to look at next. Sorry. Amy has said that she has been diagnosed with autonomic nervous system dysregulation, showing up as pots and vestibular migraine type symptoms. So specifically those symptoms are showing up is non spinning dizziness.
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Filly
I'm going to just rattle off a whole heap of symptoms. Because again I'm always interested in the different types of symptoms in the presentation. That can give us clues as to what's happening at a metaphysical level. And also with the body system. So there's dizziness, temperature fluctuations, anxiety, chest pain, internal vibrations, mood problems, visual disturbances, nausea, diarrhoea, brain fog, light-headedness feeling like she's walking on a trampoline all the time or when it shows up, occasional palpitations, skipped heartbeats, tinnitus and waking up early around 4 to 5 a.m..
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Filly
So a lot of symptoms. My heart goes out to this lady because that is not an enjoyable bucketload of symptoms to be experiencing day in and day out. What Amy did mention, though, is that the symptoms aren't always there and they don't all show up at once together. So she says they're fluctuating and sometimes they come in different groupings.
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Filly
So that's an interesting piece to the puzzle. Which is really common when there's nervous system dysregulation. So for example, sometimes people can have like real severe gut issues and there's some really nasty pathogens that are flaring that up. A lot of the times those symptoms are chronically there, especially when there's like a really bad case of savoury.
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Filly
But when we're dealing more with nervous system dysregulation, which can then send signals to different body systems, a lot of these symptoms can show up really randomly and in different groupings. So it is a clear presentation of what she's been diagnosed with. And knowing that a lot of this is coming from nervous system dysregulation means that in terms of treatment, we can actually start getting really specific with how to move forward.
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Filly
So she said that this started in September 2021, three weeks after, having the vaccine for Covid. And she remembered feeling ill on the day. All of a sudden, no one else in the family got ill from it. And for a week after, she felt well again. But then suddenly she felt worse and has been up and down ever since.
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Filly
So it sounds like there's a bit of a vaccine injury. Or inflammatory response that set that off. But I'll dig into that a bit deeper in a second. But even before the vaccine, a lot of stuff was leading up to this in terms of stress. So there was Covid, there were lockdowns, home schooling. I know a lot of people just had an accumulation of stress during this time.
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Filly
This lady was completely was trying to complete schooling of her own, as well as homeschooling the kids. And there was a lot of stress and pressure. And her husband, was still working. So although, you know, bringing money into the family didn't feel like she was had a lot of support inside the home. So, I mean, this tells us that there was a perfect storm already happening, a lot of chronic stress, pressure, role overload and then adding in a physical trigger to the vaccine.
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Filly
It sounds like that was the last straw that broke the camel's back. That tipped her system over the edge and then erupted into symptoms. She also says that she has tried all the Western health doctors. She has even been referred out to an infectious disease specialist. She's tried naturopathy care, supplements, rest, counselling, deep breathing, journaling. At the end of the last, when she was filling in the form, she said, there has also been lots of crying and doubting herself.
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Filly
So it sounds like she has been trying a lot of things to try and bring her body and her mind back on track. She's been seeking help. She's been trying. I want to acknowledge that one personally. I know, you know, I had ten years of that trying to get to the root and trying all the things. It can get really exhausting.
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Filly
It can get really frustrating. It also shows that there's strength in this stamina when you're still trying. And yeah, it can get to a point where it can kind of feel a bit defeating, especially if you have you are still struggling after trying a lot of things.
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Filly
So yeah, I think I'm just like kind of extending empathy, but also showing that it's quite normal to feel this doubt after having a chronic issue and trying a lot of things and things, not improving. Okay. Anything you want to add?
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Chris
No.
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Filly
Okay, cool. So in our practice, when we think about body burnout, which comes after a prolonged amount of chronic stress and trauma and physical imbalances, and the body starts burning out and at some point, symptoms start screaming at you to try and get your attention. There's, there's two main causes behind why the body burns out. So one is physical inflammatories, the other is metaphysical inflammatories.
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Filly
So we're going to dig into both of those. A question that we get a lot from, a new client or someone who's kind of interested in working with us, or maybe just a friend. Having, lunch with us at the cafe is. Oh, I have this symptom. Do you think it's coming from the mind or the body?
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Filly
Is it metaphysical or physical? And our answer to that is it's never one or the other. It's one and the other. So if we're going to treat the whole the body, we need to treat the whole self physical, mental, emotional, energetic, spiritual, because you can't separate all these different pieces and parts of you. So in terms of physical body systems that I would be thinking about is, well, first of all, before I go into the body systems, I want to talk a little bit more about autonomic nervous system dysfunction.
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Filly
Thoughts? Vestibular migraines, these really common conditions that come out of a nervous system that is feeling very activated and dysregulated. So parts for those who are not aware is a condition where your autonomic nervous system. So the part of your nervous system that controls automatic functions like your heart rate, your blood pressure, digestion, digestion, temperature regulation stops functioning properly or at a optimal level.
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Filly
And the autonomic nervous system has two branches. So one branch is the sympathetic nervous system that's, fight flight. Part of the nervous system. And then you've got your parasympathetic nervous system. Now if that's if functioning optimally, that's where you will feel like you can rest, you can digest, you can heal your relaxed, your calm. And then there's another branch to that which is, which can lead to something called dorsal vagal or functional phrase.
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Filly
So when you have things like pots, vestibular migraines, dysregulated autonomic nervous system, essentially what is happening is these branches aren't communicating properly with each other. So your body can't regulate blood flow very effectively or, your heart rate or your blood pressure isn't being, isn't functioning optimally. Especially like from a pot's condition when you change positions or you're under stress.
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Filly
And so that's where a lot of the dizziness, light headedness, temperature fluctuations, changes in heart regulation, even digestion can start showing up. So there is a bunch of things that can trigger a dysregulation of the autonomic nervous system. So stress is going to be a really big one. And stress can come in all shapes and sizes, right?
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Filly
You know, it could be childhood stuff that your body is still carrying on to beliefs that you have about yourself. There could be current day life stressors. So stress is a really big one. But then you can have things like viral infections, pathogens in the gut, nutritional deficiencies, mast cell activation, and in some cases like for this lady vaccine, injuries as well.
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Filly
So it's not necessarily that the vaccine causes, every single person to develop this condition. There's always going to be some sort of underlying imbalance that occurs. And then that physical, thing that you put into your body is just adds more stress to a bucket that is almost overflowing. So with, so specifically around post vaccination reactions in those individuals that are susceptible because there's already imbalances brewing away below the surface, what can happen is it can trigger an immune response that doesn't shut off properly.
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Filly
So basically, the immune system gets activated and it's sending out different proteins, like cytokines. So cytokines, different antibodies that lead to an inflammatory storm that doesn't leave the body after the vaccine, ingredients leave the body. And so this can lead to things like chronic inflammation, autoimmune reactions, mast cell activation. And a thing called cytokine storm.
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Filly
So if you've done some research around Covid, and also Covid vaccinations, you've probably heard this term before. Basically, this is where your immune system releases unusually large amounts of cytokines. And these, little small proteins that are important to cell signalling. And essentially they help to signal to your immune system to fight off a pathogen, a virus.
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Filly
It can also help with really building tissue cells and all that sort of stuff. Sorry. When this system gets over activated and it's sending out a lot of cytokines and which essentially keeps your immune system taxed and hyper vigilant, it can then continue signalling or creating symptoms that, become chronic, if that makes sense. So it's no longer an acute immune reaction can become chronic.
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Filly
Okay. So some lab tests or body systems that I would be thinking about. I mean, from a medical point of view, if your doctor hasn't looked at fully inflammatory markers like CRP, ESR, cow protecting or auto immune markers like A and a thyroid antibodies rheumatoid factor, I would definitely ask your GP to look at those. Most of the time a good shape would have already done that blood work already, and it might show that all the markers are normal.
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Filly
If they are, then it's like, all right, we got to take a functional approach. But even if any of those markers are still showing up, my question always is why? It's like, okay, cool. We can clearly see that there's an autoimmune response happening. And or there's high levels of inflammation. But just having that data isn't doesn't lead to a solution.
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Filly
So we need to dig deeper to figure out what's causing the immune system to produce inflammation in the first place, or what, you know, still, underneath the surface. So I definitely think about looking at the adrenals and the HPA axis. The reason for this is knowing that leading up to the Covid vaccination, this listen, I had a lot of stress happening, as did a lot of people during Covid.
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Filly
So potentially the adrenals might have been overworking already. Maybe they were quite depleted. And when that happens, that means that your body isn't able to regulate your stress hormones very effectively anymore. And if you're not regulating your stress hormones very effectively, then it puts your nervous system into a state of dysregulation. So the nervous system might have already been dysregulated, highly likely that it was.
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Filly
Then add in the Covid vaccination. And it just led to more of an inflammatory storm that then led to a diagnosed condition. So definitely looking at the adrenals, because if we can help to support physically the adrenal glands so that the stress hormones are functioning better, then it's going to help, it will have a nice ripple effect into supporting the nervous system to regulate better.
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Filly
A really key thing, that makes me think about cortisol and adrenal issues is the waking up at 4 to 5 a.m.. It sounds like sleep wake cycle is a bit out of whack. Very common to wake up in those early morning hours when cortisol is spiking at the wrong time. Along with that too, I would think about the brain and neurotransmitters.
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Filly
Sorry, some key neurotransmitters that we test for in our practice using urine, which is pretty cool, is dope, main adrenaline and serotonin. So when there's been a lot of chronic stress, the body usually produces a lot more adrenaline. And it's kind of similar to cortisol. So it's just stress brain chemical that gets activated when you're under stress. And when that's activated too much, the adrenaline can actually start depleting.
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Filly
In terms of the neurotransmitter. But it also can suppress the production of dopamine and serotonin. And when these neurotransmitters are depleted, it's another way that the nervous system becomes dysregulated. Like essentially your neurotransmitters are all connected. Your your brain is connected to your nervous system. And so if these neurotransmitters out of whack, your nervous system tends to be out of whack as well.
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Filly
The other thing with the brain and what I would look at testing alongside the neurotransmitters would be brain inflammation. So this can be a common a functional reason as to why, someone developed something like post-vaccination condition or even things like long haul Covid, because the inflammatory cytokine storm that can occur when you either, you know, have the vaccination or get the infection, can trigger inflammation in the brain and that inflammation can remain there.
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Filly
It doesn't always self-heal acutely. It can become a chronic issue. And so then, you know, it's really addressing that inflammation in the brain. So the brain can be sending the correct signals down to the nervous system and to the rest of the body. Next area I would be thinking about would be gut health. So talking about this cytokine storm, it doesn't just happen out of nowhere.
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Filly
If it did, every single person who had the vaccination or even like got Covid would be chronically ill. And not everyone is. So there's always things, pre-existing imbalances that are creating the perfect storm that explode basically when you might get something like the Covid vaccine. So we've talked about stress already, but another thing that could be could have been underlying there been an issue, maybe a hidden issue might have been some gut imbalances.
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Filly
So if you have a lot of pathogens, for example, so parasites, Candida, bacterial pathogens, these pathogens is spitting out little inflammatory metabolites and potentially like the body is like not doing so well. But it's clearing not enough to not get full on symptoms from it. But then as that stress bucket increases and adding the Covid vaccine and there's more inflammation in the body, it's kind of like that inflammation load just goes through the roof.
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Filly
But in order to resolve the problem so that the symptoms disappear, you may also need to look at other reasons or other inflammatory things that are happening in the body. And in terms of gut pathogens, that's a really common one. Same with leaky gut. If someone has leaky gut or Seabury small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, this can just add to the inflammatory pool that's already happening in the body.
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Filly
And there are some key symptoms too. So this lady mentioned diarrhoea and nausea, which makes me think that it's like, yeah, there's probably something physically going on in the gut as well. And it's not just the nervous system causing those symptoms in the gut. I mean, it might be, but that would be part of the investigatory process, would be to look at any other inflammatory physical imbalances that could be contributing to how you're feeling.
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Filly
And then two more things, like nutritional deficiencies could definitely be part of the picture. So if there had been a prolonged time of chronic stress, stress will deplete nutrients. Also, the immune activation will deplete nutrients as well. And then it becomes this cyclical issue where, you know, maybe the nutrients were actually okay initially, or maybe they weren't because they're starting to plate deplete with stress.
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Filly
Adding an inflammatory experience in the body. And then the body's using those nutrients more so to try and self-heal. But if the nutrients get too low and you're not filling the body back up with food, which can be really hard when you're burning the nutrients really fast, then it can create more symptoms and more dysfunction in the body.
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Filly
So some key nutrients I'd be thinking about in regards to nervous system, and immune health would be your B vitamins, magnesium, vitamin D, iron, zinc, selenium, curcumin and mega threes. And there is a beautiful test. It's called nature stat tests that we run that looks at both the blood and the urine or eases those as specimens.
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Filly
And basically it's a full panel that looks at almost every nutrient in the body, from vitamins to minerals to fatty acids to amino acids. Even looks at heavy metals, hormones. It's kind of like a really good all rounder. And one last body system, detox pathways. So anyone who has issues with a chemical that is put into the body and then they've never felt the same since, I would always think about detox pathways.
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Filly
I'd want to run a test to look at the health of the liver. How well your detoxing. Again, it's likely that this if there are detox issues. This imbalance was already pre-existing. And then when you add in something like the vaccine, it just puts more pressure on the liver and detox pathways. It's kind of like, yeah, now we need to detox from that.
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Filly
And we also need to detox from all the inflammatory cytokines and maybe like histamines that are being produced because of this condition, it can then send your liver to overwhelm and it can then turn quite sluggish. Which then means that as you live your life and you're just exposed to, you know, regular, everyday toxins as we all are, your ability to be able to clear those gets compromised and it can then impact body systems more so okay, a lot of information there.
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Filly
Let's get to the metaphysical side of healing. So we've covered the physical body systems. But remember it's not one or the other. It's one and the other. So like our big question, when we eat clients get their lab test back. Why. It's like, why did this happen in the first place? Because if we just throw a bunch of supplements in a diet to try and, like, you know, heal the imbalances, but you're not addressing the deeper reasons as to why the body systems burnt out in the first place.
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Filly
Then you'll only get short lived results, if any at all, especially if there's nervous system dysregulation. It's really hard to heal that with a supplement alone. So do you have any. You know, I've got like a bunch of things that I can talk about, but just from what I've shared so far, do you have anything, any thoughts from a metaphysical point of view?
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Chris
My favourite one is this, this might sound pointy and it'll be pokey. But some of the things that that this listener has mentioned, her issues, you know, just because somebody has, the situations and experiences that are going on doesn't mean universally everyone has to be stressed and and and disrupted and frustrated and overwhelmed and have the nervous system corrupted and breaking down, broken down.
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Chris
So that's what I mean by a you issue. Well, you know what I mean?
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Filly
Well, it's a good example because I feel like I had a similar experience to Amy during Covid. Like I felt like the world was going to end. And it that was essentially my third body burn out when my symptoms exploded yet again. And I had to go deeper into the metaphysical healing. Where is you.
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Chris
Party, party, party.
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Filly
You liked it, you thought was.
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Chris
Best for me, the.
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Filly
World and the lockdowns and homeschooling and lifted. It was amazing. Closing doors to a business is like, awesome.
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Chris
So what's the what's the differentiating factor? You know, like, and this is where you can turn it around. So okay, so, so what are the stories that we're telling yourself that where we tell ourselves in that moment, in that Covid time? For me, it was like I could go outside and smell the beautiful Tasmanian air and guess what?
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Chris
I couldn't hear traffic. Have you ever wondered what it would be like to live in a zombie apocalypse where no cars are driving? That's what it was like. And, I just thought it was the best, best thing in the world. Stories. So so so therefore, what stories are you telling yourself, Amy, about yourself and then you believing to be true?
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Chris
What, you. Why is this such a hard thing for you to go through? It does sound challenge. I'm not being, naive, but but but why? Is it challenging for you? Why? Why do you find this hard? And, Yeah, that's that's my beacon. That that that thing right there around stories, is, is usually it's it's the missing piece in in health care.
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Chris
It's stories that people tell themself about themselves.
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Filly
Yeah. And when we use I mean story is a bit of an abstract word. If we, if we add in a bit of, I guess like neuroscience or some science to it is the stories of being born out of subconscious patterns that you're running past, events that you haven't metabolised and processed and cliched and unconscious core beliefs that you have about yourself.
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Filly
You know, that's where the story is coming from. So, like the listener did identify with some patterns which can give us some clues. And as I'm reading through these patterns, like if I'm thinking about the Covid experience through my lens before I really addressed my own stories, it's like, yeah, we were running pretty similar patterns or anxious, worrying, overwhelmed.
00:28:05:20 - 00:28:33:08
Filly
Stressed out. Overdoing. Workaholic. Rushing. Hurrying. Easily offended. Defensive. Overreacting. Catastrophizing. So you could imagine if a person was running these patterns, Covid would be would feel like the tiger is about to eat you right now because all of a sudden the world has changed. Your world has changed. Kids on at school anymore. So that's like more stuff that you have to do.
00:28:33:10 - 00:28:47:05
Filly
And you're trying to study yourself, and your husband's away from work and he's not there to support you. So if you're already running these underlying over doing busy, busy, hurry, hurry, overwhelm, stressed out patterns.
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Chris
And then the situation stretches you just a little bit more.
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Filly
Yeah. Then it's kind of like, again, it's actually probably not even the Covid vaccination. It's it's there. It's the whole situation was the last straw on the camel's back. And then the body exploded because these symptoms and I say this with love, they are loving messages trying to get your attention, not just trying to get your attention around imbalances in the body, but deeper imbalances in your unconscious mind.
00:29:17:12 - 00:29:39:04
Filly
It's like, you know what? We're done. We're exhausted. I'm so done running this pattern of overdoing and trying so hard and trying to be doing everything for everyone else and like being a perfectionist. I'm not saying that you're running all these patterns, but they kind of like use similar ones that can show up. And then at some point the body just says, no.
00:29:39:05 - 00:29:59:22
Filly
It's like if a conscious mind is not saying no, you're not giving yourself permission to say no. The unconscious in the body will sign right for you. And then it's like, bang! Now we're going to give you vestibular migraines so that you can't even walk properly anymore. You have to lie down in bed because if you don't, you're vomiting and you have diarrhoea.
00:30:00:00 - 00:30:27:14
Filly
And so, yeah, these patterns and masses and it sounds like if these patterns were there already, it then creates an even more inflammatory storm when you have chronic issues. Yeah. We see this a lot with clients who have been trying to heal in the same way that they got burnt out in the first place, where it's like quick, gotta do more, gotta go faster.
00:30:27:16 - 00:30:54:21
Filly
Not doing enough. What's the next thing? Catastrophizing. This isn't working. Victim mentality. It's like a fire up. Maybe my body's broken. Maybe I can't do this. And so it just keeps you trapped in this never ending cycle. You can be trying so hard to heal your body, doing all the things. But if you're doing it, if these patterns are driving the way that you're trying to heal, it just creates more trauma.
00:30:54:21 - 00:31:02:00
Filly
It creates more dysfunction. And your nervous system stay stuck. Dysregulated.
00:31:02:02 - 00:31:28:04
Chris
You know, in Shrek, Shrek goes, ogres have layers. Ogres are like onions. They've got layers. You know that one? I often think sometimes when we're peeling back these layers of the metaphysical and the physical, it can't. It's hard to get to the root of things when when you're covered up in these protective layers, these, these mechanisms. So, you know, it, it it's one and the other, not one.
00:31:28:04 - 00:31:56:17
Chris
All the other. So so just take these things, take these layers, peel them off bit at a time, a bit at a time. Work on these stories that you tell yourself and these beliefs that you've got about yourself. Work on the body systems, work on this stuff, and, and you just bit by bit, bit by bit, eventually you've stripped away all these protective layers and, and then you just feel a little bit safer and it can take time out.
00:31:56:17 - 00:32:21:22
Chris
Anybody burn out method is a six month accelerator. It's it's quicker to get to the root cause doing the accelerator than, you know, trying leaving it to fluke alone. Some of our clients will take longer than six months to to peel back all the layers, don't they. And and some aren't willing to, to to to do that and to to go longer.
00:32:22:00 - 00:32:45:20
Chris
Some are willing and they and we see some of our clients peel back layers for months after they've, they've started with us. So however long your journey will take is how long your journey takes. Whatever your journey brings up for you, it brings up for you. So, yeah, it's layers. Do this little bit at a time.
00:32:45:22 - 00:33:19:11
Filly
Yeah, yeah. All right. Look, if you want to listen to, a, client story, who had very similar symptoms, like grace, that was episode 79. I'll put it in the show. Notes, links. She was diagnosed with vestibular migraines, but also the doctors were kind of like, we're not really sure what to categorise you with, but so many of those symptoms that we listed earlier with this listeners case is very similar to what Grace was experiencing.
00:33:19:13 - 00:33:52:13
Filly
And a lot of those patterns, very similar to the patterns that Grace was running. So I think that this listening to Grace's episode would be a really nice part two of what we covered here today. And when we interviewed Grace, we really went into like, well, what were the steps? Not only the experience of having these conditions, but we then she then very generously shared the steps that she took to heal both the physical body to support the physical body.
00:33:52:15 - 00:34:17:12
Filly
But most of the podcast episode is actually diving into what she did in order to rewire her nervous system, her brain, and, you know, pathways reprogramme deep beliefs that she had about herself. Clearing trauma. She was someone who it wasn't textbook easy. It wasn't kind of like, do this and do this and do this and you'll be well.
00:34:17:12 - 00:34:43:01
Filly
She had a lot of ups and downs, which also means she has a lot of, learnings and insights to share. So that would be a great one to listen to off the back of listening to this podcast. For those who are resonating with, yeah. Symptomology that we've discussed today, and as I mentioned before, if you'd like to get your own case anonymously, sorry.
00:34:43:03 - 00:35:06:07
Filly
And I anonymously reviewed in that, you're not actually coming on to the podcast, which is taking your data. Then there is a link in the show notes to filling the application form. Also, if you would love us to personally guide you through our holistic root cause approach, go down to the show notes as well. There is a link to our ending body burn out method.
00:35:06:09 - 00:35:32:04
Filly
Doors open again February 2026, so you can pop your name down on the waitlist. By doing that, you get first in first best dressed. Yeah, the first 101 will be a connect the dots, initial consult with myself. And if you don't want to wait that long until February, if there's spots available in my calendar, sometimes there are, sometimes they're not.
00:35:32:04 - 00:35:50:06
Filly
But I'll put the link in the show notes she can booking for a standalone, connect the dots to get the journey happening a bit sooner, so that when the doors are open, you've started some lab tests. You're good to go with the deeper root cause healing. Yeah. So yeah, check all those out in the show notes and we'll catch you next week.
00:35:50:11 - 00:35:55:18
Chris
Thanks, guys. I.
00:35:55:20 - 00:36:05:22
Filly
Thank you so much for listening. We so appreciate you. If you'd like to give us extra smiles, drop us a review and spread the love by sharing this episode.
00:36:06:00 - 00:36:31:23
Chris
You can also write your own state of burnout and the root cause contributors by taking our Ending Body Burnout assessment on our website. And if you're interested in learning about that group one on one ending body burnout programs, shoot us a DM via Instagram or Facebook. Have the best day ever.
00:36:32:01 - 00:36:32:12
Chris
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