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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending Body Burnout show. We are your host, Chris and Filly, co-founders of a multi-award winning functional medicine practice serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
Well, business, addictive doing, people pleasing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
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Filly
So get ready to heal your body, get your spark back deeply, connect with yourself and step into the light of your dreams.
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Chris
Let's dive in.
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Filly
Hello and welcome to the podcast today. Chris and I have interviewed one of our gorgeous clients, Sally, who has been working with us for over a year now as a private one on one client inside out ending body burn out method, and she just has had the most beautiful journey so far. And we invited her on the podcast to share what her journey is, look like inside the method and the transformations that she has had in her journey.
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Filly
So when she first reached out to her us, she had been struggling nine years with chronic health issues. She had eczema, actually. That was like right back from as a little baby. But in the past nine months before reaching out, she was really struggling with flare ups, with the eczema, chronic fatigue, getting sick all the time, and her mental health was really going down.
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Filly
The pupa as well. And she shared with us how she had seen, I think, five naturopaths and three medical doctors. Nothing that she had done so far had budged any symptoms at all. So she was drawn to work with us inside the body. Burnout method. After coming across in our podcasts randomly and she was listening to some at the Root Cause coaching sessions that we have on the podcasts, and she just started breaking down, crying, not really knowing why.
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Filly
But just knowing that this was the next step in our healing journey and especially the deep root root cause. Metaphysical healing was something she'd never tried before, and something that she just felt in her heart would be the thing that would start, not only helping her mental health, but also budging, shifting, changing, healing her physical symptoms.
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Filly
Now, the big focus, of our conversation with Sally today are the warring parts within her that she discovered throughout the coaching sessions that were causing so much, stress, exhaustion and essentially body burnout. And she wrote a poem about these two parts, so cool as a cucumber pickle, as a pickle. And we are even blessed to be able to hear a reading of her pole in, on the podcast today.
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Filly
So it's really beautiful. But essentially, these two pots were rooted in a deep root belief of self-love being unwanted. And Sally very generously shares what it looks like to arrive at that point, the deepest root cause, how she found it, what it looks like, and how she has been shifting and, integrating the warring parts and changing this deep belief and what her mind, body and life look like now as she has been healing and thriving and growing and glowing.
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Filly
That is something that a lot of her friends and family members are saying about her. Now you're glowing, Sally. So I know you just going to love this episode. And, if you do love, and really resonate with Sally's story, we do have our free Rewire Your Brain to End Body Burnout three day live event happening. I think it's kicking off next week by the time that this podcast goes out.
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Filly
Yeah. So in the show notes, I'll pop in the show notes, links. A link to sign up to the event. It's epic. I think currently we've got about 700 people registered, so we'll probably end up with about a thousand. And we get so much wonderful feedback from people who attend this free event, so it's definitely worth coming along, when you get a lot of value from it.
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Filly
And also, if you are interested in working with us inside the ending body burnout method, it's a really great opportunity to get a feel for what it's like to work with Chris and I. Over the three days, will take you through our three main steps that we take our clients through to help in their body burn out.
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Filly
And also our doors do open to our ending body burnout method. Next week on 24th of September to the public. However, for those and our white list, our doors will open up to 48 hours early. So on 22nd of September, the doors will open. And if you join during the early bed period, and you're on the waitlist, you will get first dibs on a spot because we only have limited space.
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Filly
Our program includes one on one coaching and treatment plan consults, as well as unlimited one on one email support. I think we can only, I worked out we can only welcome in about 25 or 26 people, so they do get snapped up pretty quickly. And also, if you're on the waitlist and you join during the early bird period, you will also get $500 worth of early bird bonuses to help you and your body burn out.
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Filly
So definitely worth, jumping on the waitlist if you're keen, and I'll pop all those links in the show notes. Okay, let's dive into today's episode.
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Chris
Welcome, guys, to this episode of The Body Burnout Show. We have a special guest today. Thank you so much for joining us. We have Sally on the line. Sally is one of our clients. Welcome to the show. So.
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Sally
Thanks for having me.
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It's very exciting for. Yay!
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Filly
We're so excited. Can I share what you said when I invited you on? I think you said I've listened to all your podcasts. I would be honoured.
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To be on your podcast. But this is my most favourite podcast, and I'm being guided on it. Like, what it is like.
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Filly
These are famous, I love it.
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Chris
Amazing. It's a it's a really cool, conversation to have. So I don't know if you're about to say this, but, cells worked with us as a private client, and, and so just to, to see you work through challenges that you've had in especially recently, and to just to be able to witness this, this experience that you've, you've, you've gone through and to watch and to and to be there.
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Chris
I've really enjoyed my experience, personally. And it's been a fun time. It's been a challenging time. That sounds like you're the worst client. It's been a challenging time. No, it's been a joy and a privilege. But the other the other thing. I think this is going to be a really cool conversation to have, because there's, there's things, things to, to work on.
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Chris
There's stuff to, to do. And, and, and I think this is a, this is a cool conversation to have, because you're, you're well on your way. But there's a few tidbits and stuff to, to work on still. So this is a kind of maybe potentially a pot pot, one type type story. I don't think so.
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Chris
I just wanted to say that that first off.
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Filly
Yeah. Yeah. And I think Sally, someone who's just wholeheartedly, robustly followed the process. Yeah. And the transformation that you've had so far has been beautiful to watch. And just things are going to get better and better.
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Sally
So how about.
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Filly
We dive in just so that people can kind of understand where you were before you reached out to us and started working through the ending body burn burnout method with us? What did life look like? What were you what were you struggling with? Like what were the main pain points that you no longer wanted?
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Or.
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Sally
Yeah, I was thinking about it all now and and actually this month, it'll be a year since I started working with you.
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And so. Yeah, it's going so fast.
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Filly
Maybe. Maybe on your side, it's like, no.
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Sally
In some ways, it's been fast. Other moments have felt slower. But then I'm like, looking back, it's kind of like, yeah, it's gone exactly how it's supposed to go.
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So. But you don't realise.
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Sally
That until you look back.
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Yeah.
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Sally
Yeah. So what was it like before joining you guys? So, like, for about nine years I've been dealing with specific health struggles. So, like, chronic fatigue, getting, like, head colds whenever I would exert myself just even a little bit, dizzy spells, brain fog, easily stressed, easily anxious, like irregular or missing periods and, eczema, which I've had since birth, basically.
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Sally
So that's just. Yeah, always been with me. And then like the year leading up to working with you guys, that was probably when my mental health was like at its worst. So I've become like so absorbed with trying to get healthy. I was like burnt out from trying to do so many things. At one point it was like I was trying all these things.
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Sally
I was just tired of diet supplements. It didn't feel like anything was making a dent. And I was like, losing joy and things that I loved, which, like, really scared me. And I, like, felt this void feeling where nothing I did filled up. So, with all that stress, I don't think I realised how stressed I was until getting like some test results for like my DHEA.
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Sally
Like each time I would get those, but nonetheless just getting like higher and higher. And my natural path is like, are you stressed?
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What's going on? Or like, I don't know.
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Sally
And my doctor's like, this might be cancer. We need to get scans.
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I'm like, oh, okay, this is serious. I have,
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Sally
At that point, that's when I was like, okay, so the stress needs to be worked on. And that's when I started thinking therapy was probably like the next option because I'd never done any therapy. I'd only ever worked on physical stuff.
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Sally
And around that time was when I started listening to your podcast. I really like everything you guys were saying was just exactly the stuff I was struggling with, or my complaints of things. And then, like, I really clicked specifically with Chris's coaching, episodes where he. The coach client, I like they really like, touched me and I felt really seen and called out and.
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I was like, getting tier. Yeah. But, I'd be like, getting teary and be crying. And I was like, okay, there's.
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Sally
Definitely something here. There's something special about it. So both, like, this might be the missing piece.
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At.
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Filly
The time, like, especially when you were crying. And it's just like, this is touching me. Like, did you know why? You'd kind of like, I don't know why I'm feeling like this, but I'm being pulled into something.
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Sally
Yeah, yeah. And it would, it would come at the strangest moments where I just, I'd be like, busy folding. Washing, like listening to the podcast episode. And next thing I just had, like, tears running down my face and I'm like.
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Well, what's going on? Yeah.
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Filly
You always know that there's there's something special going to going to happen on the other side when you have those experiences.
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Yeah, I'm.
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Sally
Like, that was just from listening to podcast episode. So I feel.
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Like the.
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Sally
Transformation was already starting before even actually working with you guys. Like just listening to all the episodes, like, I was already starting to, like, rewire all of my thoughts and passions. Just super powerful.
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Filly
And you sharing your story too will be a gift for others as well. So we always talk about collecting evidence in the more evidence you can collect that healing is possible, and sometimes that can be hard to collect it internally in yourself. Like especially if you were if someone was feeling the way that you were before you reached out.
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Filly
Kind of like I have tried everything. I've done all the things. I'm so sick of it all. But yeah. So the easiest way to start collecting evidence is finding stories of others who have broken through, challenges, but also especially like someone like you who had a lot of chronic health issues, issues, and you tried a whole heavy stuff and nothing was shifting anything.
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Filly
So thank you for being here.
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Chris
I, I have an experience to that I remember, of our I just pull up my notes from, from our first coaching coaching call and, and I've just written Dropbox link has health info, and I remember, I remember you, you had, you you, you had accumulated a lot of information in data. And, and I just think it's interesting, that that was one of the notes that I wrote at the start of our coaching is that there's a, there's a bunch of data, there's a bunch of things and I have it, I've accumulated and I've popped it into a Dropbox.
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Chris
So you can read all, all the info and do, do remember, setting that up.
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Sally
It's for that specifically because at this point I'd already worked with five natural patterns, maybe like 3 or 4 doctors.
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And I was.
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Sally
Sorry for repeating my story. So it's just.
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Like.
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Sally
Areas, everything.
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Ring that and then what's talks.
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Chris
Yeah, it's it's really.
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Filly
Fun to come into.
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Chris
It's. Yeah, it's it's interesting because my, my style of things is not to so much to go into the, the physical side of things. So, so when I'm reading through the, the dropbox, data, the symptoms and, and our thing is, is the value of being in a team with, with Phil is because some of that this specific functional medicine.
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Filly
Yeah. Stuff.
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Chris
This is, this is stuff that like we can work on out, coaching without necessarily diving deep into symptomology, which is different, I'm assuming to, to at the start. What what happened with you? You know, you were very focussed with the other practitioners on symptoms, symptoms, symptoms. And causes of the symptoms. But then when we got into our coaching calls, how did it what was that like?
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Chris
You know, like the with the, the root cause coaching. How did you how did you feel about that? What was your experience with that?
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Sally
I think at first it was like, yeah, all the focus was on physical. And I knew, especially starting with you, Chris, that you weren't interested in the physical stuff.
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Chris
Yeah. It doesn't get like.
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It's the little portal.
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Filly
To go deeper.
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Chris
You're you're watching watching my face and you're mentioning, like, symptoms and don't like what?
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I think yeah. Straight away I was already like, I'm not even going to bother, like, bringing up symptoms of Chris because he's not interested in that. We'll just get straight in, just.
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Chris
Like at a metaphorical level.
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Sally
So and I think definitely because it wasn't something I worked on, it was like, okay, this has to be the missing piece, but I think there were a lot of things that I was still like, oh, that's still just a physical thing. I think I put a lot of focus and thinking it's just all those physical things, you know, if I just if I stick to the diet, if I keep up with the supplements, you know, all that sort of stuff that's like, oh, that'll work.
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Sally
But none of it was shifting. And I think it was after attempting some physical stuff with you guys and that's still not shifting. And then I just like, completely dropped all interest of physical. And I was just like, all right, metaphysical only let's go.
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And then going online. Yeah. Yeah.
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Chris
Really it was it was a fascinating, it and it always is. It's very fascinating to watch that symptoms, especially chronic chronic symptoms that, that have stuck around since birth, have often, if not always some sort of a metaphorical or metaphysical or some sort of communicator tree or, cause or, you know, there's something in there and, and instead of, you know, the physical side of things, symptoms and root causes of the physical side of things, it's important to, to, to dig into that.
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Chris
But it's not the only, only thing. And, yeah. And what was your what was your opinion right there? And how did you feel about not changing track, but just leaning into the the more metaphysical side of things?
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Sally
It took quite a while specifically for physical symptoms, like, like take my ex. That one was like ages. Try to figure out why it has a squatter.
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Go.
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Sally
With like metaphysical because it was something that was so constant I couldn't really see or feel like UPS and downs with it. And I remember I think there were different coaching calls you guys did where, you know, you have to like, dig in to what's the meaning behind this? And I just kept being like, well, itchy like.
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Yeah, what else is there to it? That's just. Yeah, I think it took a while to like.
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Sally
Dig into, but then, yeah, once looking into all of the thoughts and feelings behind stuff and then comparing it to eczema, then I was like, oh, okay. I think I'm starting to see how these are like, and then with my eczema starting to improve and it shifting and changing, and the only thing I was changing was my mindset and thoughts.
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Sally
I wasn't doing diets or supplements and I was like, okay, here it is. This is I'm starting to feel and see this now.
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Circle, circle. So you're,
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Filly
I don't really like the ending body burn out method and specifically spark it, which is the metaphysical side of healing. It's it's linear, but it's also spiral. So we wanted to focus on.
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Filly
Like this. The first part of getting to the deep root cause belief and the different parts that you discovered about yourself. So I am I just like to spare the listeners, especially for those who might not have heard a lot of our podcasts. But when we're diving into the metaphysical healing, we have, a part of the process called spark, and that's broken up into three, three modules or three parts or three steps.
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Filly
So the first step is reckoning. And that's getting clear on the patterns that you're playing. Dysfunctional patterns that are showing up, including your symptoms and then moving into the past to looking at where did all that come from and what's the deepest root cause belief or the deepest fear you have about yourself that's affecting and causing these patterns to show up?
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Filly
And then getting clear on what you want. So that's kind of part one. Part two is then with all of this information, now it's time to rewire. Reregulate Reprogramme. And then the last part is purposeful living. So really becoming intentional in terms of how you're living your life, how you want to be. You dive really deep into present and past day.
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Filly
So that's like getting clear in all the patterns, all the data points. And then all of these little data points are kind of like the breadcrumbs that take you back into the past to work out. Where did all this start. So we might dive in there and specifically around what you discovered about yourself, that you had two pretty big warring parts within you.
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Filly
Had you heard of heard of parts work before and like when Chris started? Because I think it would have been in a coaching session when you started looking at like, well, what are these different parts of you and what are they trying to say? And what did they mean? What were your thoughts when you when you learnt about the different parts within you?
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Sally
Yeah. I I've never heard of it, but it, it made sense. Like straight away. I loved it. It was like putting into words what I was feeling and know what was going on. And, like, my brain just felt so frazzled. And so to have a explained of these two parts of you that are like at war.
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It's like.
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Sally
Oh, that's so cool, that makes sense. And I was looking because, I have recorded every session that Chris and I academy every session.
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Chris
That's amazing how that you have a very capacitor, hard drive. Nice work.
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Like it. Yeah.
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Sally
So on my phone I've recorded them all, which has been so good. I highly recommend that.
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For anyone who's a natural.
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Sally
I would go back and listen to it afterwards and I would love to see and feel things differently. So I was like, like hearing myself talk, hearing what I was saying and feeling I was like, oh, okay. Like I'm.
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I'm seeing it differently now, or being.
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Sally
Able to remember what Chris was teaching me or explaining. So that was good to refer to. So I was looking and listening back to some of the old ones to figure out where specifically what we're talking about today. What was that? What happened at that time? And I think it was like session, like 7 or 8 that this whole warring parts thing came up.
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So that's so cool.
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Filly
And the warring parts, like it's literally when someone and bam, by the way, like until you do this work, everyone will have warring parts within them. But it's exhausting. Like and it is it is a deepest source of burnout. So in to like the healing benefit of being able to identify them and then integrating them means that it's like,
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Filly
Like we can all relax now. We can all heal now. And it creates like a lot of regulation in nervous system, unconscious mind, brain, which is lovely. So now you've written a poem.
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Chris
It was session seven. I've just.
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Yeah.
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Chris
I just kind of. There you go. You are.
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Good. Well, coursework. We'll come to the poem soon, but the poem.
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Filly
Really was what prompted me to ask you to come on the podcast, because.
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I'm like, this is amazing.
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Filly
But in. So can you tell us about the two warring parts, like the two major ones, cucumber and Pickle?
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Yeah. So like.
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Sally
Everyone has warring parts and everyone will have different names for them and yeah. Can you confirm pickle is names of mine?
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So it all.
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Sally
Started, I think session seven.
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Was it with Chris? Yeah.
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Sally
He was telling all about how growing up dad would call me cool as a cucumber. And in stressful moments, I would appear calm. And I took a lot of pride in that. I like being that way, being saying that way. But I also felt it was kind of a bit of a facade.
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It's a bit fake. So.
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Sally
I felt like there was this other side of me that I was trying to keep buried all the time. So, yeah, when I references to Chris, then he was like, this is part work and said, so cucumber was one part of you. And then there's this other part trying to say something. And he said that cucumber was a bit of a bully, and it's like hogging the microphone and not letting this other part speak.
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Sally
And this other part has, like, valuable things to say, and that he wants to hear from that part. And I find that really funny because I was like, I'm pretty.
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Sure all you've been.
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Sally
Hearing is this other part.
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And he's like, nah, I think cucumber still in control of me.
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Filly
And so when how did you how did you discover it was pickle?
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Hey, pickle. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
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Filly
So this other the other part though needed the microphone.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Sally
So I think I have to I was tasked with finding a name for this other part.
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Chris
I love how you said that. Tasked.
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I was tasked, just.
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Chris
Chris made me do it.
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Yeah. You gave.
00:26:16:22 - 00:26:35:19
Sally
Me homework. You said find a name for this other part, and I couldn't find anything that wasn't, like, super negative because I didn't like this other part of me. And I was like, I'm supposed to do, like, positive about it. So, yeah, everything I was like, none of this feels right. And then our next session, I think it was like.
00:26:35:19 - 00:26:39:19
Sally
But then like, literally the next session, like 8 or 9 maybe.
00:26:39:19 - 00:26:48:09
I think that, that crystal's like, I've got a name like Chris. Do you remember coming up with it?
00:26:48:11 - 00:26:50:09
Chris
I think I was riffing, but. But cucumber.
00:26:50:10 - 00:26:53:01
Were you sitting on the couch or something?
00:26:53:03 - 00:26:55:18
Chris
Oh, I can't remember, but but.
00:26:55:20 - 00:26:57:20
Filly
Sally remembers, so she was, I called it.
00:26:57:20 - 00:27:09:01
Chris
I think I was eating, eating one, maybe at the time, wasn't I? Or I was at IGA and I saw maybe my sister in law to Lisa. Shout out if you're watching. She a typical hi.
00:27:09:01 - 00:27:09:14
To Lisa.
00:27:09:15 - 00:27:11:01
Chris
Staff members.
00:27:11:03 - 00:27:16:15
Filly
Made to milk business.
00:27:16:17 - 00:27:32:21
Chris
Oh. Tell us she got a shout out in this one. She can share it for us. But yeah, pickles was. I think it's some sort of artificial one. Anyway, I think that. I think that's how I saw it. I'm pretty sure. Is that right? Did I tell you?
00:27:32:23 - 00:27:36:20
Yes, I closed, and I only know because I've got it recorded. Yeah.
00:27:36:20 - 00:27:38:21
Chris
That's cool. Tell me.
00:27:38:23 - 00:27:43:18
Sally
You said you were eating a pickle while sitting on the lounge, and you were like.
00:27:43:18 - 00:27:47:06
Oh, hey, pickle, that's such the answer, right?
00:27:47:06 - 00:27:47:20
Sally
The answer.
00:27:47:23 - 00:27:50:11
Filly
Like it used to be a cucumber, announced the shrivelled.
00:27:50:11 - 00:27:54:03
Little pickle that was like, that's.
00:27:54:03 - 00:27:58:18
Sally
Perfect. Because like pickles, that meant they go sour.
00:27:58:19 - 00:28:06:14
Salty. And then you were like, oh, I've got goosebumps. Like that. It was. Yeah. It's like, oh, so good.
00:28:06:14 - 00:28:09:15
Sally
And then we were like, laughing about, like, I feel like I'm in a pickle.
00:28:09:15 - 00:28:14:04
Filly
So just play on words. I love it, okay?
00:28:14:05 - 00:28:16:11
It's. Yeah, I love the.
00:28:16:13 - 00:28:27:01
Sally
Side of me was like being calm and cool. Yeah. No one really knew what was going on. And then this other part of me is like, super stressed, overthinking.
00:28:27:01 - 00:28:27:22
Everything.
00:28:27:22 - 00:28:30:20
Sally
And trying to hide that. So. Yeah.
00:28:30:20 - 00:28:53:15
Filly
And it sounds like the cool as cucumber was. It was the mask as well. It's kind of like I'll put on a mask and I'll people please. And I'll be kind and generous and like, I'll do all the things for everyone else and like heaps all good of the smile on my face. And then pickles over the other sides, just like, no and not okay.
00:28:53:17 - 00:28:55:00
So.
00:28:55:02 - 00:29:13:11
Filly
Like how what did it look like? I guess, like in understanding those and then being able to look back and then experiencing these two parts because the, the two parts don't come together automatically the moment that you see them. So what did you start noticing in terms of how they were warring with each other and how it was contributing to burnout?
00:29:13:11 - 00:29:20:04
Filly
And like, even physical health issues and mental health issues?
00:29:20:06 - 00:29:49:16
Sally
Yeah, I think it was interesting, like trying to I started like kind of writing conversations between them. And what are they fighting about? What's going on? There are both parts had rules to live by and though was always a partisan or cucumber side, did not trust pickle at all. And pickle was scared to say no, I'll really feel what the reaction might be.
00:29:49:18 - 00:30:15:16
Sally
I it's like either I was feeling I was being too much or I wasn't enough, and I wanted to be relaxed. I wanted to be, like hyper vigilant and I wanted to not care what anybody thought. But I was super sensitive to what people would say. And, yeah, I'd be telling myself also be like, if you can just apply yourself more like get your act together, be disciplined, just just do more.
00:30:15:16 - 00:30:19:17
Sally
Then then you'll be okay. And another part of me that I'm talking, and I don't want to.
00:30:19:17 - 00:30:21:11
Do that anymore.
00:30:21:13 - 00:30:25:13
Filly
It's like a massive tug of war.
00:30:25:14 - 00:30:26:14
That's a big tug of war.
00:30:26:15 - 00:30:30:06
Filly
Did it lead to analysis paralysis? A lot to or it's just like.
00:30:30:06 - 00:30:33:04
Oh, I need to do this, but I want to do that, but I can't do this and I have to.
00:30:33:04 - 00:30:35:20
Filly
Do that. And then it's just like, shut down. Can't be bothered.
00:30:35:20 - 00:30:37:09
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:37:09 - 00:30:47:23
Sally
Pretty much all the time. It was like the back and forth. And then I would literally be laying on my bed just like staring at the ceiling, being like, come on, no use me.
00:30:48:01 - 00:30:49:07
Like, you've got to.
00:30:49:07 - 00:31:13:17
Sally
Get up and let's just be like that, like, like and. Yeah. And it was never from not knowing what to do. It was just having too many options and not agreeing on any of them. Like both cucumber and pickle sides had their idea. And if I chose one, then the other felt like it was wrong. And so I just felt like I was failing no matter what I was doing.
00:31:13:19 - 00:31:14:14
Yes.
00:31:14:14 - 00:31:39:04
Filly
Wow. I know so many people will resonate. And like I think back when I was in body burnout and very dysregulated and stressed out and chaotic, I could, I could like take exactly what you're talking about and plug it into many different situations, like one that came up for me a lot was around money because I had so many like money scarcity and money trauma and all sorts of stuff.
00:31:39:06 - 00:31:42:06
Filly
It's like, should I buy this? No, I shouldn't, should I.
00:31:42:06 - 00:31:43:10
Save these?
00:31:43:12 - 00:32:11:21
Filly
And like constantly getting stuck in this analysis paralysis and then never making a decision. Now you said, well, going. Talking about pickling cucumber, but there was something around you felt like they were both, felt like they were unwanted. Which linked back to when you were doing the work through the first part of Spock. Really getting to the deepest root cause belief, that was causing the body burn out.
00:32:11:21 - 00:32:26:14
Filly
And this warring and this dysregulation in the first place. How is how is that showing up for you? I am unwanted and like, in these parts as well.
00:32:26:16 - 00:32:53:20
Sally
Yeah, yeah. So I think using all the thoughts and feelings of like you, Cumber and Pickle helped me uncover what my root belief was, is. Yeah, it's interesting. They're both fighting. But this was what I found fascinating with learning about the whole pots work is that the two warring parts actually want the same thing, and they're also, like, afraid of the same thing.
00:32:53:21 - 00:33:12:08
Sally
So. Yeah, so once I figured out my very belief of, like, I'm unwanted and then I could see it like that was literally the two parts of me that were war. And that's what they were both afraid of happening. And everything they were doing was to try to prevent, you know, anyone else figuring that out. So but they.
00:33:12:08 - 00:33:15:04
Filly
Both just wanted to be wanted.
00:33:15:06 - 00:33:22:09
And she's like, look at me, love me, listen to me.
00:33:22:11 - 00:33:30:06
Sally
It was like, you know, they they'd both be like, this thing will make us want it. And like, no, this thing will make us wanted.
00:33:30:06 - 00:33:32:11
And so.
00:33:32:13 - 00:33:34:11
Sally
Fighting of each side.
00:33:34:11 - 00:33:35:21
Like.
00:33:35:23 - 00:34:07:17
Sally
Trying to please everyone. But the things that like, like both sides agreed on was believing unwanted and believing that I eventually you, no matter what you do, no matter what I do, people are going to be tired of me and not want me anymore. Especially if I don't contribute usefully in some way. So I have to give a reason to be wanted, to be loathed.
00:34:07:19 - 00:34:15:01
Sally
I can't just be myself. And I believed that cucumber was the, what people wanted.
00:34:15:03 - 00:34:17:10
So it's like.
00:34:17:12 - 00:34:21:02
Sally
Thinking nobody wants pickle. Like we keep up. Very good.
00:34:21:04 - 00:34:24:07
You know? But, yeah.
00:34:24:07 - 00:34:29:05
Sally
The other side of me, like, you know, pickle sides just being like. Oh, like, I really.
00:34:29:07 - 00:34:35:18
I have things to say. I can't keep this anymore. So. Yeah. Yeah, it was like they.
00:34:35:18 - 00:34:42:16
Sally
Both thought each other was the enemy. But what was actually the enemy was this fear, this belief.
00:34:42:16 - 00:34:46:11
So, yeah, that was.
00:34:46:13 - 00:34:47:08
Sally
And figure out.
00:34:47:12 - 00:34:52:02
Filly
Yeah. If anyone's watching this on YouTube, Kristy, just share some. Oh, I haven't shared it.
00:34:52:02 - 00:34:53:04
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh.
00:34:53:05 - 00:34:54:12
Filly
So easily.
00:34:54:14 - 00:35:01:02
Chris
So can I share some artwork with everybody? I just wanted to ask you if that's okay. Yes. Is that.
00:35:01:02 - 00:35:02:14
Filly
Cool? She has. She.
00:35:02:16 - 00:35:09:06
Chris
All right, here we go. For those of you who are on YouTube and watching this, just pop that up here. Let me.
00:35:09:06 - 00:35:12:16
Filly
Go. Have you got the the ones that I'm fighting? I've got. Oh.
00:35:12:17 - 00:35:25:19
Chris
Has entity I do I know if I do, but I've got this one. I'll see if I can find the other one, but yeah. That that that's so cool. I love it. I might have the other ones up there.
00:35:25:21 - 00:35:48:13
Filly
Yeah, we'll come back to the, the, the artwork and the creative process around that in a second. Okay. Oh, just like you mentioned before, around, one of the coaching calls or maybe one of the great workshops you were digging into, like, eczema. What are you trying to tell me? I don't know, you just itchy. But then you started getting deeper.
00:35:48:15 - 00:36:05:19
Filly
Like, was there any connection with, like, the X or the fatigue or the hormones that were connected to, like, it's going to be connected to the root cause belief, but could you see how that was showing up in the warring parts as well?
00:36:05:21 - 00:36:31:18
Sally
Yeah, I think I know in some way it's that was just so constant. It was kind of hard to see where it would really stand out in particular areas. Probably one of my clearest ones that I, and I saw, like in my poem and reference is like aching fingers. So there were very specific situations in my life where my fingers would start aching and I'd be like, where is this coming from?
00:36:31:18 - 00:36:49:13
Sally
And when I looked at each thing, it was very clear it was to do with being unwanted. And that was actually a big way that I was able to figure out what my root belief was, because it was so specific, the areas of when my fingers would ache and like, how could that be connected with this?
00:36:49:15 - 00:37:22:07
Sally
Belief. So yeah, there were different times that my body would be bringing up these signals. And yeah, looking back up past experiences of things happening around the time of something that I felt unwanted, and then I'd end up having like a really bad, like pneumonia or like, head cold after a situation happened. So just looking back at all the patterns of, you know, what was going on in my life at that time and then what health issue pops up at that time.
00:37:22:07 - 00:37:34:05
Sally
So I was sort of like, yeah. And I mean, for anyone, it can be any health issue. It's not actually the health issue itself. It's, something pops up and it doesn't just pop out for no reason.
00:37:34:08 - 00:37:37:05
Chris
But speaking of popping up, I just found the the pickles.
00:37:37:07 - 00:37:39:16
That you had, those few ones where I.
00:37:39:18 - 00:37:55:08
Filly
Would you be comfortable sharing, where I am unwanted came from. Like the moment that you accused yourself of being unwanted, the moment you started feeling these feelings of.
00:37:55:10 - 00:38:04:07
People don't want me. Yeah, sure. Well, it's kind of funny because I kind of have two stories for it.
00:38:04:09 - 00:38:34:11
Sally
And they the. Because it's like this first to be like the first memory for it. And I couldn't figure out what that was, but I had a different memory. That was what helped me figure it out. So I think I was like 5 or 6 at the time. And I had, these two friends, sisters, and we were just hanging out together, and looking at it now, I definitely think I already had the belief and insecurity there, and this was just like a confirmation of it.
00:38:34:13 - 00:38:49:08
Sally
So I just like I turn around and I look at them and I'm like, you guys are my best friends, and they like, look at me and they're like, you're not our best friend. They're like, yeah, nope, you're not. And I was just like.
00:38:49:08 - 00:38:59:03
Oh, okay, you can look me very cucumber in my home. And then after.
00:38:59:03 - 00:39:13:08
Sally
That happened, like I went home and I told my family what happened and they're like, oh, yeah, those girls are silly. They don't know what they're going on about or that sort of thing. And the next time I saw those girls, I was like, hey, we're friends, right? And they're like, yeah, what are you talking about?
00:39:13:09 - 00:39:17:13
Like like, oh, okay. And.
00:39:17:15 - 00:39:37:02
Sally
Like, I knew, like, they had struggles and stuff like that. So I always just focus, you know, why they might have done that and reason not and or all that sort of stuff. But I never dug into how did it make me feel? And just I just straight away I was like, oh, well, that maybe they didn't mean that.
00:39:37:02 - 00:40:05:01
Sally
Maybe they misunderstood me. Maybe they were having a bad time or whatever. And yeah, I never look that for me. But then doing all this work and one of my times of journaling things to send to Chris, I was typing out that story. I think one of it was a question around, like when if you felt like you weren't enough, and that memory came up and I like, started typing it out and I just like, started balling my eyes out.
00:40:05:03 - 00:40:06:09
And I never.
00:40:06:09 - 00:40:09:04
Sally
Cried back when that happened. But like.
00:40:09:09 - 00:40:09:22
Yeah.
00:40:10:00 - 00:40:11:08
Sally
20 years later.
00:40:11:09 - 00:40:16:13
And I'm like, cry me. So why? Where did that come from? And so when I.
00:40:16:13 - 00:40:20:14
Sally
Worked through that one with Chris,
00:40:20:16 - 00:40:22:01
Can I was like, I don't get it.
00:40:22:01 - 00:40:27:07
Sally
It's not the first memory. But it hurts and it's like, because it was confirmation. So.
00:40:27:12 - 00:41:11:11
Filly
Yeah. Can I just. I think it's just important. Just to highlight that something happened to you. You brushed it off. You tried to, you know, justify why they, you know, it's just their stuff. They've just got things going on now. They're my friend. But the fact that you had an emotional, visceral response to it when it was safe to know and to feel like it's just such, evidence that this stuff that sometimes seems insignificant gets literally stuck in our bodies and it's causing dysfunction until you can see it and pull it to the surface and essentially let it go.
00:41:11:13 - 00:41:13:21
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:13:22 - 00:41:35:04
Sally
So yeah that was like where I came up with figuring out unwanted. I didn't, I came up with like I'm not enough at that point. But then more digging and stuff and eventually came to want, wanted. But I was still, I was still like, I want to know what the first memory is, because I'm pretty sure that's not it, because I have memories from earlier than that.
00:41:35:06 - 00:41:43:06
Sally
And so one time I just asked myself, like, well, what is you just your first memory ever? And for me, it was one of me in my cot.
00:41:43:08 - 00:41:44:15
So you were like two.
00:41:44:15 - 00:41:45:23
Filly
Years old or something. Where are.
00:41:45:23 - 00:41:50:20
You? I was like, two,
00:41:50:22 - 00:42:14:22
Sally
And I'd had a nightmare. And I very clearly remember in detail what this nightmare was. And it wasn't anything, like super intense or scary, but I just, I knew and I still remember every detail of it. And when I woke up, all distress from this nightmare and it was like early morning and mum and dad were, in bed and I like, got up in the cot and I was like looking at them.
00:42:14:22 - 00:42:38:12
Sally
And I was like trying to like call out to them because I wanted hugs and cuddles and neither of them woke up when I was calling out, I was just stuck there, sad. And and that was it. That's the that's the first memory I, the first distressing memory I have. Have I come to I'm unwanted from that.
00:42:38:12 - 00:42:59:05
Sally
I don't know how I would have, figured that out, but it was interesting. That memory has stayed with me, and, like, I'll be going to sleep in that memory will repeat in my head and stuff like that. So it was always there. But it wasn't until digging in other areas. And I smells like that. That memory has to be it.
00:42:59:06 - 00:43:17:18
Sally
It's there's like an emotional feeling around it. It's the earliest memory I have that was distressing. So yeah, just logically, even from a little child, I, I knew, like, well, they were asleep. They didn't hear me. That's that's all it was. But something else.
00:43:17:18 - 00:43:18:18
Was being.
00:43:18:18 - 00:43:19:22
Sally
Created in my head.
00:43:19:22 - 00:43:21:03
So yeah.
00:43:21:05 - 00:43:49:05
Filly
I mean, in the work that you have gotten to do is to go back in to give that little girl, like both the two year old, but also the five year old, exactly what she needed in that moment that she didn't receive so that she could feel loved and safe and protected and so wanted. And this is why it's like it's the same thing, you know, like how many babies have woken up, cried out to their parents, and their parents have been fast asleep.
00:43:49:06 - 00:43:51:23
Filly
You know, it's like this stuff happens to every single.
00:43:51:23 - 00:43:53:16
Child.
00:43:53:18 - 00:44:03:18
Filly
And it will cause issues later on in life, depending on like the child. And you know what their actual defining moment is? It's craziness.
00:44:03:20 - 00:44:05:11
Yeah.
00:44:05:13 - 00:44:14:16
Chris
I was just going to say just just on that, Perhaps for every single child, I mean, you know.
00:44:14:16 - 00:44:25:02
Filly
What I'm thinking about, like, just, they call it. But at no child will come out of that. 0 to 7 is what you that having some sort of unkind meaning that they've made about themselves.
00:44:25:02 - 00:44:52:02
Chris
Yeah. And then my, my So so that's what I know. That's what you mean. But then there's like, you know, not every hard experience. It's the same for every single person, you know? So, the point. So therefore the point is for, for you in this moment, it did hit hard and it did resonate years later as well.
00:44:52:02 - 00:45:30:17
Chris
It stayed there. It was staying there unconsciously, creating conflict and tension and frustration and insecurity and patterns and, it doesn't matter that some people don't or didn't find those situations hard. You did. And and and didn't you didn't get out on the scale. You made some meanings about yourself, and you carried those through your life from little two year old Sal all the way to being 22 year old Sal.
00:45:30:17 - 00:45:39:10
Chris
Right. Hang on, how are you? 25, 25, 22 now you're 22.
00:45:39:12 - 00:45:41:07
26 but that's. Yeah.
00:45:41:09 - 00:46:10:08
Chris
That's 20 to 20 year olds. Yes. Are you gone from being a little girl with little, little feelings and emotions to being a, little girl in a big girl's body, you know? So, this this experience has been all about you finding out what those little girl isms are and rewriting them, growing up change, challenging them, changing them.
00:46:10:10 - 00:46:14:03
Filly
Becoming the mum. Becoming the adult, becoming the Queen.
00:46:14:04 - 00:46:15:10
Yeah.
00:46:15:12 - 00:46:18:21
Filly
And the leader of cucumber and pickles. Effective cucumber and.
00:46:18:21 - 00:46:19:10
Pickles.
00:46:19:11 - 00:46:20:11
Chris
Love it. Yeah.
00:46:20:13 - 00:46:21:23
Would you mind.
00:46:21:23 - 00:46:26:03
Filly
Okay. Okay. So not every this is not required. I'm going.
00:46:26:03 - 00:46:27:05
To just like can.
00:46:27:05 - 00:46:37:17
Filly
Tell pre-fame this in case someone's listening to this and they're like, do I have to write a poem. If I join the indie body burnout method to get the results, the answer is no.
00:46:37:19 - 00:46:40:16
Oh no.
00:46:40:18 - 00:47:06:04
Filly
However, like personally, I think the creative process like the whole rewriting, reprogramming, rewiring is so creative. But using our imagination, we're taking back our power. There's different types of modalities that we tap into. One of them is writing, not necessarily poems, but I think, like, poetry is such a lovely it really taps into the unconscious mind.
00:47:06:05 - 00:47:31:09
Filly
So, I mean, we'll talk a little bit more about the writing process and how you feeling. You know, after and all that sort of stuff. But yeah, just what I'd prefer. Not so I give this a rating of Cucumber and Pickle, and if you want to share anything before you jump in to write it, please feel free to do so.
00:47:31:11 - 00:47:38:11
Chris
Can I. Can I share the the, the words at the same, at the same time? Is that okay?
00:47:38:13 - 00:47:42:04
Filly
Well, so can you cut. Yeah, yeah.
00:47:42:06 - 00:47:44:02
Chris
Go for it.
00:47:44:04 - 00:48:12:08
Sally
Yeah. So for getting started with this is, like you've mentioned before, filling of, this is the beginning part of the program. Sorry. It was like reckoning, like present, present state, past state. That's sort of where it is specifically focussed on. It's kind of like a summary of all of that. And this references a lot of the program.
00:48:12:10 - 00:48:32:10
Sally
So it starts with cucumber talking and then pickle is talking and then they're like fighting back and forth. And then a third voice comes in which is me with the knowledge that I got from you guys, trying to get them to work together. So that's, that's the order of the poem.
00:48:32:15 - 00:48:36:18
Awesome. All right.
00:48:36:20 - 00:49:05:17
Sally
So keep it together. Keep it cool. Don't let people see you be a form. If you don't make a fuss, then you'll be a must to feel secure. Just be mature people, please. To put them at ease. Hold the mask on tight. Don't give people a fright. Always prepare so you don't feel despair. Embrace the doubt that it might not work out.
00:49:05:19 - 00:49:30:09
Sally
Pretend not to care when you feel them all stare. Your vulnerability is a liability. Your needs don't matter. Always keep them. The latter. Don't notice the feels. They're not a big deal. Don't be too happy. They'll think you're sappy. Don't be too sad. They'll think you're a drag. Others have it worse. Heal you to burst. Just have gratitude.
00:49:30:15 - 00:49:59:06
Sally
That'll fix your attitude. Stick with the smile that's the right style. Be a peacemaker and a caretaker. Keep it chill that you have some skills. Lower expectations. Then there'll be celebrations. Do your best to keep it fresh. You will calm. You are cool. Yes. Everyone's being fooled. Don't be a bummer. Stay as cool as a cucumber.
00:49:59:08 - 00:50:31:10
Sally
I ferment and lament all the things that I say. It happens every day. I overthink faster than they can blink over explain so I won't be blamed. Overshare because I really do care. All this variety gives me anxiety. What do I know? Where do I go? I can't trust what I'm thinking. I feel like I'm sinking. External validation, always a temptation addicted doing continues brewing.
00:50:31:11 - 00:50:58:11
Sally
So much scepticism. Thank you. Perfectionism. My opinions can be strong, but I don't want to be wrong. Speaking up could get me snubbed. My quirky side I try to hide. My love of details kind of derails lots of passions and not always in fashion. I continue to moan from my imposter syndrome. It feels wrong to call myself strong.
00:50:58:13 - 00:51:21:00
Sally
It does feel bleak that I believe I am weak. It's a real blow that I feel I'm so slow I'll stay muted because I feel I am stupid. I feel so pathetic when everything's hectic I must do more. So I'm not a bore to prove my worth. To be on this earth. My feeling to earn starts to burn.
00:51:21:05 - 00:51:46:11
Sally
Always on the brain. Do people think I'm strange. Scared of rejection and loss of connection. Things are aching. They won't stop shaking. Mask is falling I can't keep stalling. So many fears. It brings me to tears. If I don't suppress, I'll be a mess. Hold the lid on tight. It'll be all right I then shower by the hour.
00:51:46:13 - 00:52:10:13
Sally
In this glass tower stuck in a jar. New things fill too far. I keep it bottled up. My skin is ready to erupt. Bumpy and lumpy. It makes me feel grumpy. I want to scream, but I realise that's too mean. I say I'm okay, but I need something new to say. But the words in my head have only said I'd be a delight.
00:52:10:15 - 00:52:40:13
Sally
Take a chill pill I am so fickle. Just like a pickle. You're lazy, well you're crazy, you're a real cucumber. And you're a pickle. That's totally fickle. This feels so rough that way. Never enough. We feel so haunted that we're not wanted. Stopped. Haven't you seen? That's really mean. You both need to cut it out. This causes burnout.
00:52:40:15 - 00:53:05:17
Sally
You pick and you blame it. You both want the same. You need each other to uncover the mystery that feels so risky. The real root cause, the thing beneath it all. Can you recall? What are your passions? When did it happen? What's the problem with that? You feeling so flat? Where did it begin? What was this so-called sin?
00:53:05:19 - 00:53:31:12
Sally
What did you feel wasn't really a big deal? It's time to say sorry. There's no need to worry. It's okay. You weary. It's okay. It feels scary. But the monster under the bed is just in your head. And it's actually quite funny because it's just a dust bunny. Sure, yes, you felt daunted, but you truly are wanted. You don't need to yearn that feeling to earn.
00:53:31:14 - 00:53:58:02
Sally
Stop being so tough. You are enough. Yes, you created this. Yes, it's your fault. But no need to soak. You made this so you can change this. This was your choice. So use your voice. You are safe. You are well. No more need to dwell. You know your limiting beliefs. You can now have really continue to embark with that feeling of spark.
00:53:58:04 - 00:54:02:15
Sally
Give it some time and then you will shine.
00:54:02:17 - 00:54:07:22
I love it so good it. Oh.
00:54:08:00 - 00:54:10:18
Chris
Amazing I so awesome.
00:54:10:18 - 00:54:12:03
But I know you well.
00:54:12:03 - 00:54:28:02
Filly
I think you probably noticed because I think your voice changed depending on which character you were reading. But that last part. I'm just like that. Sally Sally's taking back her power. Woo! Thank you so much for sharing that.
00:54:28:04 - 00:54:29:19
Thank you.
00:54:29:21 - 00:54:38:18
Filly
I love it. I think you said, was this the first time you've ever written. Oh, yeah. And it just came out. I don't think you did any edits.
00:54:38:18 - 00:54:41:11
It was just like, be with you. You.
00:54:41:13 - 00:54:58:18
Sally
Yeah, yeah, I wrote pretty much the whole thing in one go, and then like, added to it overall over the week. And it was kind of like, yeah, my unconscious just like took over and I'm just like busy typing it out on my phone. And then like, this other part of me is like, what are you doing?
00:54:58:19 - 00:54:59:10
Sally
We don't write.
00:54:59:10 - 00:55:08:03
Poems. And there's other ideas, isn't isn't? I'm writing a poem this week.
00:55:08:05 - 00:55:39:07
Chris
Can I, say that this is actually a big deal? Yes. For you, Isn't it at, for a couple reasons. As far as growing up, you words. Words didn't words weren't things that that naturally came as, you know, it didn't just flow out to you, you know, like spelling and putting, putting words together.
00:55:39:09 - 00:56:02:22
Chris
This is this is something that that, that you've, you've worked on, you used. But also, we spoke about stories that you've got around words and learning and knowledge and things like that. Hey, like that's so to put to be on a podcast and read your words is a pretty big deal in, in my opinion. In my opinion.
00:56:03:00 - 00:56:06:14
Chris
Wouldn't you think. What do you reckon? Yeah.
00:56:06:16 - 00:56:09:05
Yeah, it's pretty big.
00:56:09:06 - 00:56:36:04
Chris
So I'm just so proud of you. That's just amazing. Good on you. And also, your art, like, you're you're a talented, wonderful artist. And to be able to go on a podcast and share art and, to to be vulnerable and open enough to, to be able to do that, where you you've also had the stories and thoughts around that too.
00:56:36:05 - 00:56:43:10
Chris
Hey. So, good, good on yourself, boss work. It's it's so cool. It's awesome.
00:56:43:10 - 00:56:48:09
Filly
I'm getting a bit teary.
00:56:48:11 - 00:56:49:19
That's a.
00:56:49:21 - 00:57:14:19
Sally
A big thing to notice for me. Like, before. Like, I've always loved art. I've always been creative, but I've never felt like I could just create my own things. I've always been someone that likes to copy or not follow tutorials on YouTube and like, there's nothing wrong with that. But I always felt like it wasn't always me, that I didn't feel like I could do my own.
00:57:14:21 - 00:57:32:10
Sally
And then doing this program, I've just been creating more and more stuff that is actually from my head. Like this thing and like this poem, like I was like on a, like a high happy feeling for a few weeks after writing it.
00:57:32:10 - 00:57:33:08
It was like anytime.
00:57:33:08 - 00:57:34:08
Sally
Something happened that.
00:57:34:08 - 00:57:34:23
Was like, look.
00:57:34:23 - 00:57:37:18
Sally
Good, I just be like, yeah, but like I wrote a poem.
00:57:37:18 - 00:57:41:11
So, it's so cool.
00:57:41:13 - 00:57:57:05
Filly
Well, that was my question. Like, did you feel like there was, you know, obviously you'd done a lot of work to get to the point where then all these words just came out as a poem. But did you feel like the creative process or.
00:57:57:07 - 00:58:11:11
Filly
Actually putting the poem down onto paper had some sort of an unconscious shift in terms of rewriting the unwanted belief, as well as integrating the two parts together.
00:58:11:13 - 00:58:27:10
Sally
Yeah, yeah, it it was like kind of, gathering everything and closing the chapter on all that sort of stuff, like, yeah. Like I was saying to you before, every line is pretty much a session with Kris.
00:58:27:12 - 00:58:30:09
It's like, it's it's like.
00:58:30:11 - 00:58:32:01
Sally
There's stories and.
00:58:32:01 - 00:58:33:11
Things I discovered.
00:58:33:11 - 00:59:00:21
Sally
And realised and yeah, every line has stuff underneath it. And so kind of just having this little summary overview, it. Yeah. Felt like this is I could like let it go after that. And, it it's relatable. I felt really validated and what I've written, but I could also see, oh. Want this any more?
00:59:00:23 - 00:59:01:21
I'm.
00:59:01:23 - 00:59:08:04
Sally
I don't really want to think and feel this way. Like, oh, I'm kind of over that now. Let's do something new.
00:59:08:04 - 00:59:14:04
So. Yeah. Yeah, in.
00:59:14:06 - 00:59:22:06
Chris
Just taking time out for a second. I'm not sure if the screen is going blank at all. It's just disappeared for me. Yeah. Cool. Okay.
00:59:22:11 - 00:59:26:04
Okay. Yeah. Okay. So,
00:59:26:06 - 00:59:48:03
Filly
When we were chatting via email about, like, booking in for this podcast recording and you were just sharing some thoughts, you said in your email you're, like, sent through the poem and then like a little bit about it. And then I think at the end of the email you said, I love them both. Now I don't feel like there's a war between them anymore.
00:59:48:05 - 00:59:57:08
Filly
You can, you can you share? Like what? That feels like, looks like in your everyday life and how things have changed for you?
00:59:57:10 - 01:00:25:08
Sally
Yeah, I had to think about this a bit like when you said the question on that. I'm trying to figure out, okay, what does it look like now? What does it feel like? So like my mind feels quieter now. Like the poem was focusing on all, like, the dysfunctional behaviours and struggles. But like, I also can now embrace all the positive traits of these two parts of me.
01:00:25:10 - 01:00:50:01
Sally
You know, like, when you get rid of the belief and the fears, then the both sides have good elements, you know, like cucumber, and it's like peaceful and easygoing and patient, you know, isn't worried about everything being like, their responsibility. It's like, I don't have to worry about that. But then, like, pickled side is like, passionate and deep sensitive has a lot.
01:00:50:01 - 01:00:52:01
To say on many things. It's got the.
01:00:52:01 - 01:00:55:05
Filly
Microphone when it wants it. Now.
01:00:55:07 - 01:00:58:02
Yeah. That's what it's like.
01:00:58:04 - 01:01:23:15
Sally
And yeah, I think, you know, cucumber likes to stay under the radar, but pickle likes to be involved. So depending on the situation what's happening. Like both have their place. So it's not like a back and forth of it should be this way or it shouldn't be that way. And whenever that does start happening, I'm like recognising, that, and then just watching through with.
01:01:23:15 - 01:01:41:13
Sally
Yeah, and just always remembering that both sides want the same thing and it's always coming from wanting to text and it's coming from love wanting the best for me, like so knowing that's what the intention is and then figuring out, okay, so what is that going to be in. Yeah.
01:01:41:15 - 01:01:42:04
Chris
Amazing.
01:01:42:04 - 01:01:42:15
Yeah.
01:01:42:19 - 01:01:55:13
Filly
So cool. Have you noticed there's been a change in like mental health mood even like energy? Anything physical since they've. Yeah. That's.
01:01:55:14 - 01:02:19:11
Sally
Yeah, I think I, I feel lighter, less pressure. Things don't feel as high stakes anymore. Like when I feel there are things that need improving, it doesn't feel devastating. It's just like, oh, there's a next thing to work on. Whatever. It's not like, you know, the be all and end all when I'm, like, not achieving the thing I want at all.
01:02:19:11 - 01:02:21:12
Sally
That looks like it's fine. It's fine.
01:02:21:14 - 01:02:23:05
Yes.
01:02:23:07 - 01:02:38:11
Sally
And then, yeah, physically, my energy has improved so much. Not getting sick regularly. And, I've had it where I've been around many people that have very contagious things. And I'm not picking up any of the.
01:02:38:13 - 01:02:40:06
01:02:40:08 - 01:02:47:18
Sally
And then. Yeah. Like my eczema has improved so much. It's not gone yet but I intend for it to be completely gone, you know, get there.
01:02:47:19 - 01:02:49:08
Yeah. Okay.
01:02:49:10 - 01:03:05:04
Sally
So, but it's definitely so much better from what it was, it's really all I've been working on is my mind. I haven't forgot the diet and supplements. Like, I think I'll keep doing those things as time goes on, but that hasn't been the fun.
01:03:05:06 - 01:03:23:11
Filly
Yeah, all of it. It's kind of like the body system support has just been sort of in the background. It's like, you know, brain needs a bit of support that need some support, but I'd say 95% of your energy and intention has been around metaphysically healing the parts of you, right?
01:03:23:13 - 01:03:29:08
Sally
I had like negative feelings around trying to take supplements and do diets.
01:03:29:10 - 01:03:31:02
Like I don't want to do a. Yeah.
01:03:31:02 - 01:03:33:02
Sally
And then as soon as I was having to feel better.
01:03:33:02 - 01:03:33:11
I was like.
01:03:33:11 - 01:03:35:13
Sally
I haven't can take that supplement. That's fine.
01:03:35:15 - 01:03:36:18
Like it's.
01:03:36:22 - 01:03:56:19
Sally
No. Yeah. Just it was interesting that I think everyone's probably got their own order that things work for them. And yeah, for me it was like shifting the mindset. And then these physical things were starting to work more, just like the complete opposite of what I had been working on for, like, the last nine years.
01:03:56:19 - 01:03:58:23
Yeah, yeah.
01:03:59:01 - 01:04:06:11
Filly
Which is the definition of insanity after nine years. It's like dramatic different approaches needed here.
01:04:06:13 - 01:04:07:01
01:04:07:03 - 01:04:17:02
Chris
I've, I have a question. How's your relationship with yourself at right now?
01:04:17:04 - 01:04:45:08
Sally
Much better. Much better. Yeah. It's, I like and, seeing my value and my work and, anytime when things come up, I think it's more just the old habits, trying to, like, get those away. So I'll still have moments where I'll be, like, in my head going, oh, you're just annoying. Or like, oh, they're stupid or things like that.
01:04:45:08 - 01:04:49:01
Sally
And I'm like, wait, hang on. No, no, don't say that.
01:04:49:01 - 01:04:51:11
Anymore, okay? It's 30.
01:04:51:11 - 01:05:17:00
Sally
That's a lot of active reframing. But the there's different moments where you like, oh, normally I'd be, oh, you should be doing this. You shouldn't be doing that. And now it it doesn't. I don't put that kind of pressure on myself anymore. So and then when there are things that I want to do, I'm just like, oh, I'm capable of that.
01:05:17:00 - 01:05:19:14
Sally
And if I'm not, that's also okay.
01:05:19:16 - 01:05:26:09
Filly
It's okay to try and fail because it's not failure, it's feedback.
01:05:26:11 - 01:05:27:02
Chris
I love it. Yeah.
01:05:27:03 - 01:05:45:20
Filly
It's so good. Thank you so much. I know there will be so many people he will resonate with. Like especially when you're describing like what these warring parts felt like. So if there's anyone who's listening who's just like, oh, is that what is happening underneath? Whoa. Okay. They're starting to recognise that they might have some warring parts within them.
01:05:45:20 - 01:05:56:04
Filly
What would be some words of wisdom that could help them, help guide them? So write a poem like.
01:05:56:06 - 01:05:58:19
What could be? It could be what?
01:05:58:21 - 01:06:11:21
Sally
The poem is kind of the end result after the work. Yeah. So I think it's like, yeah, look out for what? What you start doing after all of that. What's the stops? Come.
01:06:11:23 - 01:06:14:18
So I think.
01:06:14:20 - 01:06:58:10
Sally
Yeah. So people figuring stuff out, it's like, look at yourself with curiosity. Leads, like condemning judgement out of bullets. But I just look at everything as data. Shame and embarrassment. Pride, even logical reasoning can be like a block stopping you from digging into things. So, just. Yeah, looking at it for what it is. Start checking yourself for it and then remembering that whatever you uncover is way less scary once it's named.
01:06:58:12 - 01:07:23:12
Sally
And like the parts of you that are warring that want the same thing, and want what's best, even if the behaviour is actually not great. So it's like knowing what the intention is underneath. So looking at it from that way, it's like, you know, you're not you're not the enemy. And so that just opens up. Yeah.
01:07:23:12 - 01:07:26:17
Sally
So much opportunity.
01:07:26:19 - 01:07:45:20
Filly
And it's amazing. It's love is like I think what I heard in there too. And I don't know if you used the word, but it's love. So it's like, oh, you're not trying to be annoying and you're actually not. There's no bad parts. You're just trying to protect me. So then all of a sudden it's like, oh, I can actually extend some, some love and compassion to these parts.
01:07:45:22 - 01:08:00:05
Filly
I personally think that naming them and giving, like turning them into a character like you did cucumber and pickle makes a huge difference as well, because then it then it's not ambiguous and abstract anymore. Then it's not like, oh.
01:08:00:05 - 01:08:01:06
Sally
Why am I like.
01:08:01:06 - 01:08:14:20
Filly
This? And it's so annoying. It's like, oh, hang on now there's just two parts of me that were created when I was a kid or a teen. Okay. Cool. What are you trying to say to me? And then if they do pop up,
01:08:14:22 - 01:08:15:18
Chris
Don't be a dill.
01:08:15:19 - 01:08:40:17
Filly
Yeah, you can start talking to them as if they're a little friend or, you know, just a little child that needs a little bit of love and reassurance and a reminder that, like, I'm in charge now, I'm an adult now. You can go and play. I'm healing at it to take leadership. Yeah. Oh, thank you so much. This has been wonderful.
01:08:40:19 - 01:08:43:19
Chris
Yeah, it's I good.
01:08:43:21 - 01:09:00:19
Filly
If you could go back to to tell you when you younger self something that also might be some really powerful kind of like piece of advice to people who are listening, who might not have started this journey yet. What would it be?
01:09:00:21 - 01:09:01:01
01:09:03:02 - 01:09:31:20
Sally
Yeah. So, what I would want to tell my past self and everybody else like telling them it's like you're not broken. I think your body doesn't hate you. There's always a reason and intention behind every symptom. Passionate behaviour. It's showing up for a reason. Like, you know, your mind, your body is trying to tell you something.
01:09:31:22 - 01:09:53:19
Sally
And. Yeah, like, when you approach it that way, there's so many more possibilities. And it's like, you don't have to put up with what you're dealing with. It's like there's way more options out there than what, you know, a majority of people think it's possible. It's like, yeah, we can't have things perfect that can actually have things a lot better than we might think.
01:09:53:19 - 01:09:55:22
So,
01:09:56:00 - 01:09:57:06
Sally
Yeah, I think.
01:09:57:08 - 01:09:58:13
Yeah.
01:09:58:15 - 01:10:32:14
Sally
And and just probably one of the biggest things that I really clicked and understood during this whole process is like understanding your worth and value as a human being, and that that can't be hurt or changed or stopped, like one of my affirmations that I was like, like my worth and value is separate to this, that my worth and value can't be measured and lost like it's a completely separate thing.
01:10:32:16 - 01:10:39:01
Sally
And this is what we all get really caught up on. If we do the thing, then we're a good person.
01:10:39:06 - 01:10:40:11
Or a.
01:10:40:13 - 01:10:54:20
Sally
That's like, if you swap it around, be like, no, no, no, like I'm already enough. Therefore I can do things. It's not I have to do things to be enough. And it's just crazy how much like, none of us really know that know.
01:10:54:21 - 01:10:57:09
So yeah, that's like.
01:10:57:11 - 01:11:22:15
Sally
And yeah, like, it doesn't make certain behaviours, okay. It doesn't mean you can just do whatever you want. Yeah, but it, it's so important for us to understand how precious we actually are. And if everyone can really feel into that, like we're gonna treat ourselves much better and treat other people better as well. So just. Yeah, it's a big difference.
01:11:22:17 - 01:11:25:15
Filly
Look at you go, oh, I love.
01:11:25:15 - 01:11:28:15
It. If you could go.
01:11:28:15 - 01:11:37:07
Filly
Back in time and, like, watch this, this podcast interview, I reckon your, your one year self would be like, I love her.
01:11:37:08 - 01:11:38:05
She's amazing.
01:11:38:05 - 01:11:43:01
Filly
I want to be like her. She's so inspiring.
01:11:43:03 - 01:12:11:21
Chris
So cool. Sal, thank you. So thank you. Thanks. I'm speechless. Thanks so much. Thanks so much for, doing this podcast episode, sharing your story. Thanks for being open. Thanks for thanks for all the all the good times. It's it was really it's been really cool. I really appreciate you. Thank you.
01:12:11:23 - 01:12:13:18
Thank you, thank you guys.
01:12:13:20 - 01:12:14:13
Chris
And everybody else.
01:12:14:19 - 01:12:15:16
01:12:15:18 - 01:12:17:17
Chris
Oh, sorry I cut you off.
01:12:17:19 - 01:12:20:16
Filly
She just said we're amazing.
01:12:20:18 - 01:12:24:16
Chris
You could you can say that any time.
01:12:24:18 - 01:12:27:11
Filly
Not that we need external validation.
01:12:27:13 - 01:12:30:21
Yeah, right. But it's still nice.
01:12:30:23 - 01:12:38:03
Filly
It's still nice to have a reflection back of what you already believe about yourself.
01:12:38:05 - 01:12:38:22
All right.
01:12:39:02 - 01:12:41:13
Filly
Thank you so much, everyone, for listening to.
01:12:41:15 - 01:12:48:15
Chris
Have the Best Week Ever chat to you soon.
01:12:48:17 - 01:12:58:19
Filly
Thank you so much for listening. We so appreciate you. If you'd like to give us extra smiles, drop us a review and spread the love by sharing this episode.
01:12:58:21 - 01:13:23:02
Chris
You can also write your own state of burnout and the root cause contributors by taking our Ending Body Burnout assessment on our website. And if you're interested in learning about that group one on one ending Body burnout programs, shoot us a DM via Instagram or Facebook. Have the best day ever.
01:13:23:04 - 01:13:23:12
Chris
For.
