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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending Body Burnout show. We are your host, Chris and Filly, co-founders of a multi winning functional medicine practice serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
Well, business, addictive doing, people pleasing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
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Filly
So get ready to heal your body. Get your spark back deeply, connect with yourself, and step into the life of your dreams.
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Chris
Let's dive in.
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Chris
To this episode of the Ending Body Burnout show. You know I have one for you today. All about why you get sick on holidays. Just raise your hand if you've ever reached the holidays, only to spend it in bed with a cold or flu, gastro, or even feeling completely wiped out. Does that sound like you? Today we're going to talk about that.
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Filly
Awesome. So many of our podcast ideas actually come from our own personal experiences, as well as conversations we're having with clients. And this topic came up. I didn't know it was a few months ago when Chris shared something that happened to him on holidays and and lots of clients were like, oh my gosh, yeah, I always get sick on holidays.
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Filly
Or why? Why is that the case? Why does this happen? So today we're going to dive into why you get sick on holidays. Okay. It's also a good timing. So this will be released in July and it's school holidays for many of us in Australia, which means a lot of people are probably travelling and holidaying. Or if you work in a industry where you have holidays at the same time as kids, even if you're not travelling.
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Filly
I know a lot of people can crash the moment that they don't have to work anymore. So this will be relevant, I think for everyone. Okay. So in true Christian family style, we're going to look at both the physical and the metaphysical sides of why you get sick on holiday. So let's dive into the physical side. Hey.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Filly
All right. Sorry. And from this point of view, we're really going to look at the science behind physically. Why people who is stuck in burnout patterns, can really crash when they start the holidays. Okay, so some of these burn out patterns, if you've listened to the podcast for long enough now or you've worked with this, you will know what a burnout pattern is.
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Filly
But for those who might be new to the podcast, this is kind of like the pattern of go, go go go go go to do all the things, tick off all the to do's. There might be some people pleasing perfectionism, thrown into the mix as well. And we'll really talk about these patterns when we get to the metaphysical side of things.
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Filly
But what this is doing to the body is first and foremost, you're producing a lot of cortisol and adrenaline production when you're in this fight flight, go, go go pattern. So cortisol and adrenaline is stress hormones and stress brain chemicals. And this might be an acute production leading up to going on a holiday. And I'm going to share my story too, but I'll do a little peppering at the moment that I used to get into a frenzy, or it's just like we're about to go on a holiday and I have to get all of this done.
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Filly
And I see this as a pattern, too, with clients leading up to Christmas holidays, where it's where it's over. It's not even our clients, it's just the modern world of we need to make sure we get everything squared away before we go on a break for two weeks. Otherwise, our business or our workplace or the world is going to crash and come to an end.
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Filly
And this is essentially a trauma response. And what it's doing physically in the body is you producing heat today. Stress, chemicals and hormones. And it might be an acute production, but for many people who are stuck in body burnout, this is a pattern that has been running chronically. So not just leading up to a holiday, but it's been running for maybe years, if not decades of your life.
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Filly
And so that extra push to get all the things done before you go on a holiday, can be the last year on the camel's back that impacts your immune system. So when you're experiencing, this pattern, you can have what's called a stress hormone crash. So after months of elevated stress hormone, is this sudden permission to relax can cause a dramatic cortisol drop where you can literally feel like you're physically crashing.
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Filly
And that often shows up in energy. So you get to the holidays and you feel completely wiped out. You might even feel quite low mood, almost like a shut down, low motivation, point of view experience. And for some people, sleep disruptions can occur. What this chronic and acute high stress also does, when it comes to causing sickness leading up to holidays, is that it suppresses the immune system.
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Filly
So when you're experiencing high stress, it literally suppresses the immune system, which makes you more vulnerable to picking up bugs and what fires together, wires together. So if you've got this nervous system dysregulation happening where it's like, go, go, go, gotta do all the things and immune suppression which occurs naturally when, you're in this chronic state of fight, flight or even freeze, then the two things can wire together so your body can experience high periods of stress.
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Filly
And then at the same time, your brain body's system has created these neural pathways to say, oh, when we're feeling this nervous system dysregulation, our immune system also shuts down. And so this can show up really specifically when people are travelling. So I'll talk about holidays where you might just be on a holiday at home, and also holidays when you might be going away and travelling.
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Filly
So the thing when you're going away and travelling is that you're actually exposed to a lot more bugs than you would be if you're just staying at home either in your house or in your community. And so your immune system is not as resilient. So it's going to start picking up more bugs, whether it's cold or flus on the plane or in airports.
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Filly
Or maybe you're going to a foreign country, and you're eating foods that you don't usually do that have bugs in the foods that you're not usually exposed to. And if your immune system isn't resilient to that, then you're more likely to get, gastro food poisoning, that sort of stuff. Also, what can happen when you're holidaying away from home is if you have entered your holiday in a dysregulated, state, you can you can be more prone to feeling overstimulated.
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Filly
So when you're going on an aeroplane, when you navigating a place you haven't been to before, or maybe it's a busy place than usual. There might be crowds and different sounds and different smells. This can why your nervous system even more so, which can suppress your immune system even more so. And this is really common to for neurodivergent people in particular, because they're already, they're more prone or more at risk to feeling overstimulated in different environments.
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Filly
Some other body system things I think about from a physical point of view is chronic stress will also impact your gut health. So on, our functional medicine lab tests that we run, we can actually look at different markers that can give us an indication as to what's going on with your gut health, but also how that's affecting your immune system.
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Filly
So if you, are heading out on a holiday and you're getting really sick, then there could be something going on with your gut. Some things I think about, is Secretary IGA, so this is a marker that can be seen on a stool test, and it shows whether your immune system is depressed. And sometimes it can also show if it's very hyper vigilant.
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Filly
So if that's really suppressed, then you're going to be more prone to picking up bugs and viruses and all sorts of things that can make you quite sick. If you've got a lot of pathogens, overgrowing or your microbiome is depleted, that can also impact your immune system. And leaky gut can also make you more susceptible to having a dysregulated immune system, because it actually puts you more into a hypervigilant state.
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Filly
So leaky gut is basically where your gut lining starts to separate, and food particles, even pathogens, toxins that in the gut then seep out into the bloodstream. And this is really inflammatory. And your antibodies start attacking those things that are in the bloodstream because it's deemed it as, foreign. And then that just puts more stress on your immune system.
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Filly
So if you have leaky gut, you can be more likely to getting sick. Or having reactions almost like a histamine reaction or allergy type reaction when you're heading away.
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Filly
I'd also be thinking from a physical point of view. So if you're someone who's like, yep, yep, yep, I tend to get sick and run down or overreactive when I'm on holiday, I'd be thinking about your detox pathways. So if your liver and your detox pathways aren't working functionally, optimally, it's going to impact your immune system. And especially when we're on holidays, most people, not everyone, but most people are exposed to more foods and drinks like alcohol and sugar and processed foods that they might not usually be exposed to.
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Filly
Or in the amount that they're exposed to. A lot of people, too, getting dehydrated on holidays. And we can also be more exposed to environmental toxins depending on where we're travelling. So this can put more stress on the gut and the liver, which then suppresses the immune system even more. One other thing too. So this would be more for people who are travelling to different time zones.
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Filly
It can really throw out your circadian rhythm, so your sleep wake cycle, which then if you're not sleeping very well, then that puts more stress on your body. So cortisol rises, which then can impact or suppress your immune system. I've also experienced this too. Like sometimes different beds. I'm very particular with my pillow. So if I get, like a really thick hard pillow, I don't have a great sleep at night.
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Filly
Some people are the same with pillows or beds. Or maybe there aren't look out curtains like you're used to. And so if there's more light coming in, or more sound coming into the bedroom that you're sleeping in, you can, yeah, not have as good a night sleep, which will put more stress on the body and then therefore suppress the immune system.
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Filly
So they're the main things I think about from a physical point of view. While we tend to, get sick on holidays and I mean, as I mentioned before, you might not actually be going away travelling for a holiday. You might just be at home and you crash. That's more the that nervous system dysregulation being in such a high stress stress state for so long.
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Filly
And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, now I don't have to do anything. But you have this cortisol crash which then wipes you out and you don't actually feel like you have much capacity to enjoy your holiday. Even if it is just at home. Anything you want to add to the physical side of things, Chris?
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Chris
That last piece really resonates with me. Spending several years in the Army. One of my fondest memories is also one of the most awful physical experiences I've had in my in my life. For a couple of weeks, I lived out of a trench. It was wet. It was muddy. It was painful. Then we had rashes.
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Chris
Prickly heat is one of the best moments of my life. And I really, honestly mean that that it was such a hard experience that I. I see it through rose coloured glasses. Any of any soldiers, or athletes would have the same sort of story, no doubt. Would I do it again? No. But do I remember it fondly?
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Chris
Yeah, I really do. And you could go back through the war memorial, read poems about soldiers in Gallipoli and in the front in Europe. That they'll say the same thing. Rose coloured glasses about really awful experiences. Anyway, I can do that. However, when I go on holidays, I don't want to be in a trench. I don't want to be prickly heat and and rubbish slate.
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Chris
So you touched on a really interesting topic. I have, like the Princess and the pay. I have three pillows. I've got one for my head, and it's a it is a lovely, expensive pillow that fits me perfectly. I have one to cuddle with. My arms are put in like a headlock. And the other one, you know, strangle it.
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Chris
And I'm like, literally in a stranglehold. And the other one, I smash between my knees, keeps my spine aligned, and I'm a very active sleeper. I'll change positions maybe about 5 or 6 times a night that I'm aware of. And we've got a beautiful mattress. It's very expensive, very comfortable. It, I can move without setting my wife into a mattress.
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Chris
Yeah. Which is. Well, I, I like it anyway. Our dinner is very comfortable. What I'm getting at is it is so not trench warfare in our bed. It is comfortable and to go. And I'm six foot seven. I'm over two metres tall. And so my feet hang right at the end of our king size bed. And there's taller guys in me.
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Chris
But when we go on to Airbnb, if I'm looking for comfort and not the trench in my expectations, this is going to be a comfortable experience. I'm going to relax. And then when it gets to night time and my calves are hanging off the end of the bed and I can't have my little strangle pillows, and there's no, like, in between my knee things.
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Chris
Or I. That's not a very pleasant sleeping experience for Chris, because my expectations aren't being met. But if I went in there expecting it to be Gallipoli, I and it was, I could probably get over it. But because I'm going into it expecting it to be a certain way and it's not, well, that's frustration. There's a gap there.
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Chris
So there's a bit of physical and metaphysical tied up into that sleeping experience.
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Filly
Yeah. And there always will be. It's kind of like it's not one or the other. So if you're someone with a pattern where I'm like, oh, I always get sick, it's, you know, I've just rattled off all the main physical things that can cause that from happening. But it's not just when all the other ever. And that's a good example.
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Chris
So, so another thing that I could do, like when I go camping, I can have a tremendously amazing sleep. And I got a flaming air mattress that's like the size of my hand. And I can sleep like an absolute baby with a pillow that's inflatable. And it's a quarter the size of my my snuggle bug. Once. So. So it's stories and expectations, so critical when it comes to to holidays.
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Chris
So therefore my, my, my work for myself is so get my expectations dialled in and metaphysically work all this sort of stuff. And pre book, if I can have a look at the pictures and find beds that are absolutely going to be tall, human friendly.
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Filly
Yeah. I win.
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Chris
This, which might cost more. And therefore there's some stories there around money and.
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Filly
Actually just the I just realised that when this podcast publishes, we will be on it on a plane to leave folly.
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Chris
On a jet.
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Filly
Plane. And this is been part of our we fall have back pain. Well, when I saw it because I know that Chris is tall and he can get cramps and all that sort of stuff when we I mean, I'm the type of person where I just, I love an adventure. So when I go on holiday, I'm like, I want to see all the things, I want to experience, the culture I want to like.
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Filly
And so, yeah, we'll talk about, we'll dive into more of the metaphysical, I've dialled it in now. I thought in the past, it's like I want to do every single little thing so I don't miss out, and my money is well spent and we're going to have a great holiday creating great memories. So that was a very that was a way.
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Filly
Perfectionism pattern show.
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Chris
Joy this holiday.
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Filly
Stop crying and Chris. And so our experience of that or my experience of Chris's that is that he's very different. So he when he goes on a holiday, he wants to just rest. He I think he would be happier if we just went to a, I don't know, like a resort. And you laid by the pool for two weeks.
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Chris
Oh yeah. Dangle my foot in the water. Just stare at the clouds. Just look at that. Look up at them and just go, oh, this is amazing.
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Filly
Look at that scar. Where is Savannah? Like, I could do that at home. Like we're in a different country or a different state, which.
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Chris
So. So do what I like. That's what that's my. That's my life. Like, I love looking at the clouds. I love getting my feet in, in the water and dangling. And so I don't need to go to any, any other place. I'm so comfortable. And so when I get forced, this is a story. When I get forced into an environment that's, you know, Gallipoli.
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Chris
It's a bit of a battle zone, in my opinion. Yeah, it's not comfortable.
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Filly
The point of why I'm bringing that up now is that I've learnt over time that we we want different things from the holiday and. Sorry, I'm always like I'm the one that plans it. I'm the one that books the tickets. I'm the one that has the idea, or I'm the one that books out the dates, schedules, out the calendar.
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Filly
Organises the itinerary of it. There's one that we're going on in Bali. I'm like, hey, let's go to two different places. So usually my way of doing a holiday would be, let's get a car and we'll go to a different location every 2 or 3 days and we'll just like see the whole country. Whereas this time I'm like, okay, relax fully.
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Filly
I know that I'll probably end up with a very grumpy husband by the end of that trip. So we have compromised or I compromised in my own head. I didn't even have to have this conversation with Chris, but we're staying in two different locations, and this time Chris does not have to drive anywhere. Usually we would hire a car and Chris would just like for the chauffeur, and I would be able to sit back and relax in the, in the, passenger seat.
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Filly
So, I mean, like, I think that this the point of this story is that if you are going on a holiday with other people, if it's not just you going solo, if it's you going solo, do what makes you happy. Do what lifts you up. But if you're doing it with other people and you have this pattern where it doesn't go so well because, you might have different needs, in your family, then.
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Filly
Yeah, like work to find a balance where you can still get what you want out at the holiday, but you're also not burning the other person out if all they want to do is rest and look at the clouds for two weeks.
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Chris
Yeah. And then, darling, into metaphysical, I know my my highest need. It's not. It's not family. It's not Philae. It's not, believe it or not, it's not, finance is not money. It's not things. It's being free. It's having having an ability to do whatever I want. Having that flexibility and and I really value that.
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Chris
And so I think in the past when I've felt forced, my, my needs don't don't factor. Chris, you're not important here, but this is what we're doing. And you'll like it. That's a that's feel very forced. And, and I think we've, we've had some, some good conversations in the last year or so. That have allowed me to express myself.
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Chris
But, we've got I don't know if we'll talk about it now or a bit later. There has been in recent months, some holidays where I've gotten sick, like broken down, smashed.
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Filly
Oh. You can talk about it now.
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Chris
Go for it. I had to poo so.
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Filly
Much that would have been January. So about six months ago.
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Chris
All the poos, all the poos and,
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Filly
That we got gastro.
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Chris
Gastro? Yeah. Yeah. Poopy, poopy. Lots of poops. Come in and out fast and stinky.
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Filly
And no one else did. So I don't actually think it was gastro. Or maybe it was maybe a resurgent, but it was just interesting that it's like my guts fun.
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Chris
Did I want to have a.
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Filly
Puppy and like, a fine. What's going on with your immune system?
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Chris
Captain? Captain Chris was was not super comfortable. Back back pain. It started off with back pain, and then it ended up more around my pelvis and, lower, lower gut. And then it turned into cramping, like, real. I don't know what it was like to have babies or period cramps, but but I swear, like, that's from what I was googling and talking to ChatGPT about, I had I had my first period,
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Filly
But but that that holiday was interesting. So we stayed in Tassie, we went to Saint Helens. We just stayed in an Airbnb for five days. I wouldn't say that. That was like a fast paced go, go, go, overstimulating experience, but I think, I think what happened there was your expectation was different to your experience of that.
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Filly
And your body was basically just like, stay in the home, stay housebound, rest.
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Chris
Yeah. It's such a we love that location. It's such a beautiful place.
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Filly
And there was definitely some miscommunication. There was some pollution under the bed of resentment building up between us. And that's usually the catalyst of you getting sick on a holiday. Because I will like I remember I, we and again these patterns are way less than what they were but they were still, they still showed up which then caused a dysregulation between both of us.
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Filly
And like I remember I think it was just small things like oh where are we going to have dinner tonight. And you might have suggested something and be like no, I want to go here. And then we'd open up the menu and it's like, what are we going to have? And you're like this, this in this. And I'm like, what?
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Filly
You having three meals? So kind of just like a little bit of passive aggressiveness, a bit of like controlling patterns popping up.
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Chris
Fine. You're giving me the crap.
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Filly
And then take this low and, and then you just shut down and go silent, and then it will show up in your body. It's like, all right, well, if I'm not voicing what I need and it's kind of like giving Filly a shake and saying, hey, like, why are these patterns showing up? Let's, let's have a conversation about it right now rather than allowing it to fester throughout the holiday.
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Filly
Then you body, you know, if you if you're not voicing that in a healthy way, the body will voice it for you. It's just like.
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Chris
Yeah, and we wait for it. Ever since then, we've we've been having regular, come together meetings. Meetings isn't the right word. Experiences where we'll we'll talk about whatever's on our mind. We'll have, like, really nice conversations. If there's been some distance between us. I think that's our relationship signal that that there's something that needs to be talked about.
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Chris
For his mind the other day, it was. That was really funny. This is a segue, but kind of not really.
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Filly
Well, can I just before you segue, because we did have a conversation a few days ago on We Do It on a Friday. Yeah. And I said at the closing of our Come Together meeting.
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Chris
This is that's exactly what I'm talking about. This is this is the thing I was going to say.
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Filly
Oh, I just well, I just said, hey, can we make sure that we continue these conversations when we go to Bali? Because I don't want I don't want to be a fester of. We stopped talking to each other. And it's not that we don't. We don't talk to each other. It's we're not communicating our needs and our ones and having like a big D and M, because usually the pattern in a holiday would be we've got the kids as well.
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Filly
And, you know, sometimes the puppy dog and we navigating lots of stuff and we, we kind of then just brush aside the things that are important to us, all the things that we're noticing resentment about, and then it will blow up in some way. And usually it's like physically.
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Chris
At the risk of having these conversations for you. And why is that? Like, well, we can be honest. We can. We're both pretty good at saying what's on our mind when we when we give each other the space. And the risk of that is that I might say something that that can strike a nerve. And then likewise back at me as well.
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Chris
Like, you can say something honest and it's just like, all right, that's kind of painful to experience.
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Filly
Did you want to share your Segway? Because it's kind of cute. Yeah. So this is this is not a holiday example of it. Just something that happened maybe a month or so ago.
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Chris
This is super important to me that that I was suppressing, that I didn't realise how impactful this was to me. And when we had our come together and we were talking.
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Filly
I was just poking the bear.
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Chris
I'm like. And then I could feel it.
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Filly
Like giving even a bit, I don't know, distant distance. And you were like, no, I haven't, no, I haven't, but then.
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Chris
I thought, yeah, I actually have. And then and then I thought, okay, well why? And then backtracked a few times, you know, it was this. And then why did I do that is because this. And why did I do that? It was because this. And then I was like, you know, when it all started. And then I started getting really teary.
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Filly
He cried, oh, he was so surprising.
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Chris
It was we had this really big frost in Tassie, and I've been really enjoying really experiencing, a joy in gardening and.
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Filly
Vegetable gardening.
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Chris
Vegetable gardening and, and I, I made a few mistakes. I did a few things that if I had to do them again, I wouldn't do them that way. And I wouldn't do that plant that particular crop, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, we had this real. Intense frost. Everything died in our garden. Except for, a couple of things.
00:28:24:17 - 00:28:49:19
Chris
I was heartbroken, I was heartbroken, and now this is. I don't require this to live or survive or we're lucky enough and blessed enough for that not to be the case. And there's plenty of farmers out there who through this frost, I think. Anyway, this hurt it. It caused the emotional pain to me and I.
00:28:49:20 - 00:28:51:19
Filly
But you pretended like it didn't.
00:28:51:23 - 00:28:53:15
Chris
What can you tell the the claim.
00:28:53:19 - 00:29:12:10
Filly
Yeah, we had a but like. Yeah, we had our clinic come in on the day of the frost or the day after and she's like, how are you going? And we were both saying like how cold it was because it was still super frosty. And then I'm like, oh yeah, it's super sad. I'll vegetable gardens dead. I think, and I say, Chris sad.
00:29:12:11 - 00:29:33:00
Filly
And then a couple of minutes later you came into the room and she's like, oh, I'm sorry, sorry, Chris. And you're like, what for? Sorry, sorry that you've forgotten time. And Chris said, and I hear I could tell that he was doing it like in a masculine, unresolved way. Oh, it's all good. It's all good. It's all good.
00:29:33:02 - 00:29:38:19
Filly
These things happen. And then you just walked off into your office and closed the door.
00:29:38:21 - 00:30:03:02
Chris
Wow. Yeah. And so I don't recall it. So that was obviously a very suppressed experience. But anyway, you know, come together. I just had that conversation with Phil, and it just when I opened it up, I realised, man, I'm actually quite sad. I have a sadness there. And and maybe a little bit of shame and guilt in there.
00:30:03:02 - 00:30:17:04
Chris
Like, I should have done it this way. I should have done it that way. I'm not good enough. I'm not a real farmer, you know, it's comical. Now I notice it.
00:30:17:04 - 00:30:29:03
Filly
And and also just the great, like, just paring away any beliefs and stories. It's also just the grief and the loss which you didn't allow yourself to to tell the lies and move out of your body.
00:30:29:03 - 00:30:48:16
Chris
But now I have and it's light and, and I've like, literally I've made a plan of, of things to plant next. I've gone and pulled some, some old things. I've actually gone out the back and I've actually done some stuff, a pin, some some beans and peas that didn't die, by the way, in the frost, that are actually kicking.
00:30:48:16 - 00:30:56:14
Filly
But yeah. Okay. Anyway, so I get back to holidays. I'm just thinking we we could have done this like a vegetable garden.
00:30:56:15 - 00:31:04:04
Chris
The point of me saying this is this was a suppressed thing for me. And if we didn't have these regular come togethers.
00:31:04:06 - 00:31:07:14
Filly
Our Bali holiday probably would have been very uncomfortable, right?
00:31:07:14 - 00:31:33:08
Chris
Yeah, I would, I would, having these come together has allowed me the space and the time to be heard, to feel safe to say what was on my mind, to explain why I felt distant. And so I think top tip listener is to with the stakeholders in your life and the important people have some come togethers, come together, meet together, allow each other to speak openly.
00:31:33:10 - 00:31:41:22
Chris
And it's been our relationship is definitely. It thrives when we have, our meetings, open discussions.
00:31:41:22 - 00:31:44:13
Filly
For a little video.
00:31:44:15 - 00:31:46:03
Chris
Oh, I see what you're saying.
00:31:46:05 - 00:32:10:20
Filly
Okay, so, let's talk about some other patterns or metaphysical patterns that can show up with holidays that can contribute to the crash that weaving into holidays, the sickness, the immune system. And again, we'll talk about the patterns from a body burnout point of view. So people who are running the overdoing perfectionism, people pleasing, even kind of shut down suppression type patterns.
00:32:10:22 - 00:32:37:21
Filly
So a really common one could be over doing previous to the holiday. And that could either show up, in terms of like, I got to get all the things done at work so that it's all ticked away. Or it also might show up as like, I need to earn this holiday, so I have to work really hard so I can feel like I've done a good job and I'm deserving and worthy of this holiday.
00:32:37:23 - 00:33:03:12
Filly
Something else that might show up is, you know, if you're running this pattern is cramming everything in before the holiday. So whether that's like you're going, you're leaving your home to go on a holiday, or it might be the whole Christmas thing where it's just like, got to do all the things and make sure everything is in place so that I can put my head down at night and know that I'm a good human being and know that the world isn't going to fall apart and that I'm going to be okay.
00:33:03:14 - 00:33:24:00
Filly
So if you're running these over doing pre holiday patterns often, it also means that you're neglecting self-care leading up to it. It's like you've only got 24 hours in a day. And your sleep might even get carved out in order to get all the things done before you go away. Or you're just making poor nutrition choices.
00:33:24:00 - 00:33:49:13
Filly
Dehydrate and maybe not even going to the toilet regularly. Because you're trying to cram everything in before you go away. And this again will put more, it will weaken the immune system because you're putting yourself into a really dysregulated state. Perfectionism can also show up, and that might be around over planning a holiday. So that's kind of what I was like talking about a little bit.
00:33:49:15 - 00:34:11:19
Filly
And I remember, yeah, this was a massive pattern for me this Bali holiday. Besides booking our tickets for the flight, I haven't even done visas or anything yet. Oh, That's okay. I can do it. The day before you can even do it at the at the airport. It's okay. But besides booking tickets and Airbnbs, I have no idea what we're going to do.
00:34:11:19 - 00:34:36:05
Filly
And I actually really love that spaciousness and that freedom of it. And it also means I'm not, spending my time prior to the holiday trying to work out what I'm doing for the holiday, plus life admin, kids, family and business. But in the day, I definitely had this over planning tendency. Where I would need to. Yeah, I need to do like research.
00:34:36:05 - 00:35:03:12
Filly
And this is prior to like ChatGPT. So research all the possible things that we could do and have this step by step itinerary. And this is what we're going to do on this day. And this is where we're going to go in eight. Back in the day to and I had, food allergy intolerance things going on, I'd have to not have to, I chose to it was part of the perfectionism over controlling pattern was like work out where all the places I could go that are going to be nice to eat.
00:35:03:12 - 00:35:19:20
Filly
And so this is just really time consuming. But it was driven from a place of fear. It wasn't so much excitement. And just like, yeah, I find a lot of joy pre-planning. I remember kind of dreading it and feeling resentful that like, why can't Chris plan our itinerary? Like, why am I the one that has to do it?
00:35:19:22 - 00:35:55:19
Filly
So it was definitely showing up as an unresolved perfectionism pattern. This could also happen during the holiday. So if you have this internal pressure where I have to have the most perfect holiday experience for myself and my family or my friends or whoever you're holidaying with. Because if I don't, then it's going to mean something bad about me if I don't create that for myself, especially created for other people, then I'm going to be exposed that I'm somehow less than waking capable or not deserving, not lovable.
00:35:55:21 - 00:36:20:14
Filly
Sometimes this can also show up as a tendency. And this was the case for me too, where leading up to the holidays. I had this massive to do list, and I would just like little things, like, make sure you watered the plants. Make sure you figure it out. Who's going to look after the dog? Make sure you work out when you're going to put the bin out before you get in the car to go away, so that you don't come home.
00:36:20:16 - 00:36:39:14
Filly
And there's like, rotten veggies in the being, in the house is going to stink. Like, this is what my brain used to do leading up to a holiday. Again, it's a perfectionism pattern where I know you. I don't think I've ever shared that with decrease, that I knew that when I was going to share this on the podcast, I knew you would have that reaction.
00:36:39:14 - 00:36:42:21
Filly
It's like, what?
00:36:42:23 - 00:36:50:19
Chris
If I did think of that when we get home, I'd be like, oh wow, I should I should have put the bin out. Oh, well, I'll put it out now.
00:36:50:21 - 00:37:10:18
Filly
It was even, it was even this maggots was even to the point where I had to strategically work out, like, how are we going to eat all the food in the fridge? So we're not wasting anything, but we're also not throwing anything out, but we're not leaving anything in the fridge to go off. So even like two weeks in advance, it's like, what am I going to purchase?
00:37:10:18 - 00:37:17:00
Filly
So there's not going to be waste. And this is all tied up in like, money scarcity, patterns that I used to have as well.
00:37:17:03 - 00:37:36:14
Chris
And that's so funny because I'm the opposite. I'd be like, my plans are like, all right, so what am I going to do now? Now, I've not done the thing. What am I? How am I going to rescue the bin from maggots and rotten food? That's that's where I think, I'm in the moment, react rather than pre-plan.
00:37:36:15 - 00:37:37:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:37:37:20 - 00:38:02:01
Filly
So these patterns definitely going to awaken your immune system because you're putting yourself into a dysregulated state. People placing is really common to, especially if you're holidaying again, whether it's at home, carving out time to go on like outings with the kids. If you're going away with your family on a holiday. So your holiday involves other people.
00:38:02:03 - 00:38:26:05
Filly
People pleasing can definitely show up. That can then dis regulate your nervous system, put more stress on your body and weaken your immune system. So it often shows up as a I have to make sure the rest of the people who I'm holidaying with, usually it's the family will be happy. So this extra pressure to get it all right, which can fade in perfectionism pattern, which then kind of fade in over doing pattern.
00:38:26:07 - 00:38:48:02
Filly
Sometimes it might show up too, if you're travelling to places or even at home that you've got carved out time for a holiday. If you run these strong, people pleasing patterns, often it can show off as like, oh, I feel like I have to catch up with everyone. And I need to make sure that, you know, maybe I can't even serve people during my holidays as well.
00:38:48:02 - 00:39:11:18
Filly
So how how can I help them so that they can love me? They can accept me so I can feel like I belong? Again, it will feed this overdoing pattern. If you feel like you have to try and please everyone, catch up with everyone. Help everyone, make sure everyone else is happy. And that's where you then start suppressing your own needs and your wants and desires.
00:39:11:20 - 00:39:37:02
Filly
Which will weaken your immune system. And the last pattern that I think about from a metaphysical point of view, which is what Chris touched on, is sometimes getting sick during a holiday is just your body's way of forcing rest. So especially if you are running these or you're doing hyper vigilant, controlling type patterns, your unconscious mind is nervous.
00:39:37:02 - 00:39:58:06
Filly
So it's like great. Like we we know that there's two weeks or four weeks coming up where we're going to have this holiday, but how can I trust you to rest? Like, how can I trust you to relax and settle down and have a wonderful time and rest and recharge and connect? And so if the unconscious mind doesn't trust you, then it's like, cool.
00:39:58:07 - 00:40:11:16
Filly
Well, I'm going to force your rest by making sure you get sick or you feel really wiped out so that you can't overdo. On this holiday, it's kind of impossible to then overdo.
00:40:11:18 - 00:40:38:02
Chris
I have one, one little or two little additions to that. The first one is like, really unclear expectations around what the holiday actually is, you know, and that's going to be something where, in the in the past, I know we've, we've not communicated. And then all of a sudden, well, my highest value is freedom, as I said before.
00:40:38:02 - 00:41:13:04
Chris
And so then I'm thrown into the mix. My poor communication has locked me in to no freedom. And so therefore, how can I take responsibility for that? Is next time have actual conversations with my wife. And, and then I can have my my expectations set. You know, more realistically, I'm not off in fantasy fairytale land of what I expect and then magically expect my wife to have read my mind, which, as if I can expect that because I can't even do that.
00:41:13:06 - 00:41:29:13
Filly
Yeah. And I'm reflecting, like, again, I'm kind of coming back to this ballet holiday where planning for getting ready for, but there were some specific questions. So when I looked at like, you know, I found here are the top 20 Airbnbs. Chris, which one do you want?
00:41:29:15 - 00:41:30:23
Chris
And I scroll through and look at the.
00:41:30:23 - 00:41:48:08
Filly
Bed and he will look at like, which has the king size bed, which one has the aircon, which one has a pool, which I kind of feel tired in anyway. But I know that that's more important to you. And so it's like, cool, I I'll handle that decision to you. And then there was also the do you want to drive this time?
00:41:48:08 - 00:41:57:07
Filly
Like do you want to actually. Yeah. Have a car to drive around and have someone that we, you know, we just pay a day to have someone drives around, which.
00:41:57:07 - 00:42:01:08
Chris
I think, I feel I actually kind of want to just not do that.
00:42:01:09 - 00:42:02:00
Filly
Well, yeah.
00:42:02:05 - 00:42:08:11
Chris
Because we've done it was in Bali before and we know how easy it is to like get up, get a taxi.
00:42:08:11 - 00:42:18:18
Filly
And also like, the traffic's nuts. And so I was thinking about your nervous system, which like, from the point of view of me being a passenger.
00:42:18:18 - 00:42:19:14
Chris
Thank you. Honey.
00:42:19:14 - 00:42:20:22
Filly
Yeah, I was you.
00:42:20:22 - 00:42:21:11
Chris
Think about.
00:42:21:11 - 00:42:30:05
Filly
Me being a passenger. I'm not on high alert like you are as a driver. For example, when we went to Fiji last year, you know, I could.
00:42:30:07 - 00:42:31:21
Chris
I could, Fiji was fine.
00:42:32:03 - 00:42:33:17
Filly
Yeah, yeah, but.
00:42:33:19 - 00:42:35:06
Chris
Actually, I'm glad we had the car.
00:42:35:06 - 00:42:39:02
Filly
Okay. Maybe we should go to Coffee Valley then.
00:42:39:04 - 00:42:47:12
Chris
Now I'm happy. I'm happy. No car. Bali. Okay. Bali is not Fiji. Maybe a little bit of cooler and a couple of suburbs, but not.
00:42:47:13 - 00:43:16:23
Filly
Yeah. I just want to share one story. And then we'll talk about some some things that you can do to have a great holiday. So some preventative things to support your immune system. So, I mean, I touched on this. So my, my old pattern and like, you know, it can still pop up sometimes or it's like, let's have a great holiday and jam as much as we can and then do all the things which I've dialled back, but definitely back in the day.
00:43:17:01 - 00:43:36:22
Filly
That was a massive pattern. And I ran the perfectionism patterns and the I got to do all the things to do list before we go, and I have to make sure that the holiday is going to be great. What, like a massive symptom that showed up for me was two weeks leading up to a holiday. I would just bang, get insomnia.
00:43:37:00 - 00:43:59:22
Filly
Which made it make sense in hindsight. My, nervous system was so overwhelmed I was in fight flight. So there was a lot of cortisol running throughout my body, and then it's like, bang, don't slate. And the pattern with not being able to sleep, it was my mind just couldn't it couldn't turn off. It's like, what if I have I haven't got the passport have I.
00:43:59:23 - 00:44:17:12
Filly
Oh, gosh. What if I've made the wrong decision around like, where we're staying? Or maybe I need to, like, look back at that. So it was just this ongoing. Have I done have I made the right decision? Have I made the right choice? What else do I need to do so that, so that we can have a great holiday and sorry for that.
00:44:17:12 - 00:44:32:09
Filly
Two weeks like my sleep would be rubbish. And by the time we went on a holiday and sometimes this was just going to Sydney or somewhere, it wasn't even an overseas trip. And sometimes, like this pattern would even show we live in Tasmania.
00:44:32:09 - 00:44:34:11
Chris
Everything's overseas.
00:44:34:13 - 00:44:55:11
Filly
This, this pattern in the past even show it up. If I was going on a solo trip for maybe like business or to see my sister, it would still show up regardless of who was going. So in in the scheme of things, it wasn't a big deal going on a weekend trip to Sydney, really, but my nervous system, my main brain was just like, danger, danger, danger.
00:44:55:11 - 00:45:16:07
Filly
Got it. Make sure you get all the things right. So by the time I reached the holiday, I was exhausted and usually it would take like 1 to 3 nights for me to be able to to settle down and be able to start sleeping again. And always I would catch a cold or a flu, either on the holiday or coming back.
00:45:16:07 - 00:45:36:18
Filly
And I always blamed the plane aircon come back and I was, yeah, sick. So the things that I did to address it, well, I worked on my body systems for sure. Thinking in the past that it was just a physical immune system issue, and I did run a pattern to where I was getting sick all the time.
00:45:36:18 - 00:46:12:02
Filly
So this is going back ten years that every 2 to 4 weeks catching a cold and a flu, that over time got better as I supported my gut health, detox pathways, adrenals. But it was still, this immune system crash and this insomnia crash was still showing up around the holidays. So it wasn't until I did deeper metaphysical work around getting to the root belief of, like for me, it was weakening capable, which made a lot of sense as to why I was super controlling and had to be hyper vigilant and over do before and during the holiday.
00:46:12:04 - 00:46:35:14
Filly
So that made a massive difference. And I remember I can't remember what holiday it was, but it was a travelling trip and I remember laughing all the way to the point that I then got off and went on the plane, and that was it felt like a miracle. It's like, whoa, I just slept for the whole two weeks leading up to these holiday and I feel great ready to start this holiday.
00:46:35:16 - 00:47:05:09
Filly
Something else I did too, schematically, and I had a little flare up. It was actually last year again, there'd been many holidays where sleep soundly was totally fine. But last year I had a trip to Sydney. It was a for a business thing. And it was a couple of days before I just remember waking up and it was almost like a little switch had flicked on and I all of a sudden felt like I had so much to do before going on this solo trip to Sydney.
00:47:05:09 - 00:47:31:14
Filly
I wasn't even taking my kids to that one, and I went to a, somatic, session with one of my teachers, Shelly Broughton, who's actually done a beautiful somatic trauma relay session inside out ending body pain out method, which I'll pop the link in the show notes for clients if they want to check that out. Basically, you're rolling around on the floor, you're rocking, you're shaking.
00:47:31:14 - 00:48:00:03
Filly
There's no men to like you. You're supposed to drop out of your head and into your body. And I had this experience during this 90 minute session where I went back in time and I was, I think, eight years old, and it was my first overseas trip to USA. And it was really interesting. It's like, and I went into that session wanting to be able to find either more daughter around, why this little flare up was happening.
00:48:00:05 - 00:48:20:05
Filly
But also essentially to release it. And so I took me back to USA, which I don't have a lot of conscious memory of, but I know that my mom was experiencing a lot of anxiety and panic attacks then, so I imagine that she would have been really stress leading up to this overseas holiday with four little kids.
00:48:20:06 - 00:49:02:08
Filly
There would have been a lot of just stimulation with the airport and the long plane trip in the new country. And so after this session, I, I can't even explain what happened, but basically, I, I felt like I was flying on the plane and I was free and it was beautiful and amazing and when I came out of that session, that that urgency and that feeling of like, I've got so many things to do before I go to Sydney had just completely gone, like it was completely switched off, which demonstrated and showed to me that I had had this unconscious pattern, of a distressing event or a disregulated event still stuck in my
00:49:02:08 - 00:49:19:09
Filly
system that, as it came out, then it switched off that pattern. Okay, so just to finish off, we, I thought it'd be nice to give you some really practical prevention strategies.
00:49:19:11 - 00:49:43:18
Chris
This top tip is communication. Just. Yeah. If there's anything in your head, if there's anything going on, stop holding it in. Have communication, find regular times to talk, especially to yourself. If you don't have you time, then you're you're really doing yourself disservice and you're holding yourself back. And you're losing rapport with yourself, which is the most important thing.
00:49:43:18 - 00:49:49:00
Chris
And then have communication with your partner and then any other stakeholders as well.
00:49:49:01 - 00:50:09:10
Filly
Yeah. And big, big picture point of view. Like there's going to be some deep root cause beliefs that need to be healed and reprogrammed to then be able to have these conversations. And if you're someone who does tend to get sick a lot or feeling wiped out, there's probably some pretty big body systems that need an overhaul as well.
00:50:09:10 - 00:50:30:13
Filly
So this bigger picture, deep healing stuff we do inside out ending body burn out method program, which I'll pop the link in the show notes and doors open again in September. I've also got my calendar open. If you want to just start off with the, first step, which is a connect the dots initial consult. So both of those links are in the show notes.
00:50:30:15 - 00:51:00:00
Filly
But I would be thinking about, so during holidays I actually take some supplements with us. And this is preventative, but also we can use it in more therapeutic dosages if someone does get sick. So by Studios Armour force is amazing for colds and flus. And I'll just dose this all up during the holiday, especially if we're going somewhere overseas where there are different types of bugs.
00:51:00:02 - 00:51:32:10
Filly
Colloidal silver is also really good antiviral and I use the brand Argentine 23 because that is the best one that I've found. We'll also, if we're going overseas, I'll take Saccharomyces, Bellotti and colostrum, which is really great for the microbiome, the gut health and great to prevent food poisoning, gastro bug type pathogens. So throughout the whole holiday, I'll dish everyone out their little supplements and then if someone does get sick.
00:51:32:10 - 00:51:43:07
Filly
So for example, in Fiji, got a bit sick with a bug, did a bit of diary I think I did too after eating like a duck thing. So.
00:51:43:08 - 00:51:45:07
Chris
Which hey, I can't remember.
00:51:45:09 - 00:52:10:10
Filly
So with Saccharomyces bellotti and again, check with your health care provider before doing this. But like you can do quite a lot of, that probiotic even like 12 tabs a day just to flush out the pathogens in the gut. I definitely recommend drinking lots of water, especially if you are going on an aeroplane, because you can get really dehydrated and that will impact the immune system, not out.
00:52:10:10 - 00:52:11:11
Chris
Of the tap.
00:52:11:13 - 00:52:18:07
Filly
Oh, have you going overseas or I don't know, even like Sydney, Melbourne where it's very heavily chlorinated.
00:52:18:07 - 00:52:24:11
Chris
Never drink water out of the Sydney Brisbane Melbourne taps.
00:52:24:13 - 00:52:26:22
Filly
Yeah with food.
00:52:27:00 - 00:52:31:22
Chris
Do better water companies do better with food?
00:52:32:00 - 00:52:57:23
Filly
I stick with a 7030 rule when I'm travelling. Usually at home it's 80, 20, maybe even 9010 in terms of like healthy, clean, whole food. I'm a lot more relaxed while I'm travelling, but I still feel better if I'm eating most of the time. Healthy whole food. Try and opt for gluten free, dairy free, refined sugar free options if they have them when we're eating out.
00:52:58:01 - 00:53:21:00
Filly
But I'm also not stressed if they don't, or if I really want a burger and chips. It's just like, eat the burger and it's so that's from a food perspective. Just kind of think about what you're eating because that will impact your immune system. But also if you're over stressing, trying to be a perfectionist around trying to eat super healthy while you're on holiday, that's going to impact your immune system as well.
00:53:21:02 - 00:53:25:22
Filly
Sleep is really important. So as Chris and I mentioned, we're pretty picky with our beds and our pillows.
00:53:25:22 - 00:53:28:17
Chris
Little Soft princess is only.
00:53:28:19 - 00:53:53:02
Filly
So I would if you going to do some prior planning, I would find a place that looks like it's going to have a good sleeping quarters. When we do stay Airbnb, I'll usually go through all the beds. First of all, I'm not. Chris is more picky on the mattress, so I let him pick the mattress. But I'll pick the best pillow because I know that that's going to help me have a great sleep.
00:53:53:04 - 00:54:04:14
Chris
You know what happened at I just remembered speaking of that, that's what didn't happen in Saint Helens. Elsie took the took the big oh thank you.
00:54:04:14 - 00:54:05:03
Filly
Let her.
00:54:05:06 - 00:54:08:07
Chris
Let her, And didn't speak my truth.
00:54:08:07 - 00:54:09:19
Filly
Yeah. Okay. There you go.
00:54:09:19 - 00:54:12:03
Chris
So a little red bag.
00:54:12:05 - 00:54:43:07
Filly
Another thing I noticed in hotels, and some Airbnb Airbnbs is they've got a lot of things plugged into the walls with the little flashy lights. So what I'll do before we go to sleep is I'll. I'll either turn everything off that I can, that I can see that has a light, or if it's something that might need to stay plugged in, I'll put like a pillow or a piece of clothing over it, even if it's like a tiny little red light, I'm still covering it up because I'm like, my sleep is going to be pristine while I'm on this holiday, all right?
00:54:43:09 - 00:55:09:16
Chris
And, that's another thing that I do. The little personal thing I don't like sleep mask, but, sleep masks are great. What I do instead is sleep mask, because I don't like that strapping feeling on of the strap on my head. So I like a dog, or a scarf that I can just drape over them over my face and leave my leave my big snorkel, leave my nose out.
00:55:09:18 - 00:55:14:06
Chris
And that that seems to be, a winner for me.
00:55:14:08 - 00:55:45:15
Filly
I also try and stick with your usual sleep time routine. So the research shows that the more consistent you can go to bed and wake up at the same time. And that might be different depending on your, body clock, the like that's the best thing you can do for sleep. So even when you're going on a holiday, if you can try and go to bed at the same time that you usually would, that is like your natural sleep wake cycle that's going to help, and it's going to help your immune system to function better.
00:55:45:17 - 00:56:11:11
Filly
If you're travelling on flights, I think about some length work after your flight. So that could be as simple as putting your legs up on a wall. So lying down on a floor, but then putting your legs up so you're at a 90 degree angle and staying in that position for about 15 30 minutes. It just helps to drain the lymph and the fluid from the bottom of your legs, and helps with lymph flow.
00:56:11:11 - 00:56:35:16
Filly
That's going to be going round around like a circle throughout your whole limbs and your body. Also, if you've got lymph gloves or a toothbrush for dry brushing or a leaf brush, those types of things can be really helpful to just to make sure that your lymphatic system is moving free and flowy, which will then help your immune system, and have fun.
00:56:35:20 - 00:57:03:15
Filly
So if you do notice stress travel patterns pop up, like, if you haven't done a lot of work with Chris and I, there will be stress patterns that will pop up while you're travelling. If you're a client or a client that has done a lot of work with Chris, and especially at a metaphysical level, just notice if any of those old patterns pop up, like how I mentioned I was noticing that were popping up when Chris and I went to Saint Helens at the beginning of this year.
00:57:03:17 - 00:57:16:17
Filly
It might be around spending money, or controlling or putting pressure on yourself to make sure everyone else is happy. Or maybe you noticing that kind of like that urgent pull to do a lot of things,
00:57:16:19 - 00:57:18:16
Chris
Or not do anything.
00:57:18:18 - 00:57:41:22
Filly
And sometimes it's just so again, if you're more practised in being aware and knowing what to do with those patterns, sometimes it's just being aware of them and it's like, oh hey, oh hello little pattern. Why are you popping up? Oh yeah. Okay. And sometimes it's just a reminder that they're old shadows of protective patterns that have been very prevalent in the past.
00:57:41:22 - 00:58:08:10
Filly
And sometimes and often just having a conversation with those patterns or that part of you that's popping up kind of like freaking out a little bit. And to say, like, I'm safe now. It's okay. I'm here on this holiday. What however the holiday unfolds is going to be wonderful. It's okay. And often that's enough just to allow them to kind of shake off, settle down.
00:58:08:12 - 00:58:36:01
Filly
The my last point to would be, and Chris has talked about expectations is if you're going with your family, expect there to be drama. Just expect especially if you're going with children and your family members have big personalities. It's part of the game. Just expect that there's going to be some tantrums or there's going to be some, big needs that need to be express.
00:58:36:01 - 00:59:00:07
Filly
Still there's going to be some weird things that pop up. So when we go on holidays now, I'm not my expectation is not we're going to have like the perfect time and everyone's going to be so happy and everyone's going to be so relaxed and chill and we're all going to want to do this adventure. I just expect that, like, my kids are probably going to back up and, you know, maybe Chris will too, but that's okay.
00:59:00:09 - 00:59:17:15
Filly
It means that a conversation needs to be had. And and so like my I expect that to happen, which means when it does, it's like, oh, I was just I was expecting that to happen. So cool. That's okay. It hasn't ruined the holiday.
00:59:17:17 - 00:59:18:21
Chris
Boom.
00:59:18:23 - 00:59:19:23
Filly
All right. Listen.
00:59:20:00 - 00:59:45:01
Chris
Otherwise it'll give you the the poops. The poops. Oh, crap. Crappy to tears. Literally and metaphysically. Have the best day ever. Guys, hope you enjoyed this one. Stay healthy. Stay. Awesome. Bye.
00:59:45:03 - 00:59:55:05
Filly
Thank you so much for listening. We so appreciate you. If you'd like to give us extra smiles, drop us a review and spread the love by sharing this episode.
00:59:55:07 - 01:00:21:03
Chris
You can also write your own state of burnout and the root cause contributors by taking our Ending Body Burnout assessment on our website. And if you're interested in learning about our group or one on one ending Body burnout programs, shoot us a DM via Instagram or Facebook. Have the best day ever.
01:00:21:05 - 01:00:21:11
Chris
For.
