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Chris
Hello and welcome to the Ending Body Burnout Show. We are your host Chris and Fili, co-founders of a multi-award winning functional medicine practice serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues. While busyness.
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Filly
Addictive doing, people pleasing and perfectionism might be the norm, it's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplement hoping something might stick.
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Filly
So get ready to heal your body, get your spark back deeply, connect with yourself, and step into the life of your dreams.
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Chris
Let's dive in.
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Chris
And welcome to this episode of the Ending Body Burnout Show. I'm Chris and I'm here with Fili, and today we are going to continue our retreats series.
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Filly
Because I am obsessed about retreats at the moment. If you haven't heard already, where have you been?
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Chris
But under.
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Filly
A rock? Under her rock? Or maybe it's the first time you've ever jumped on to our podcast. Welcome, if that is you. So today's episode, we're going to dive into the. For reasons why retreats are so transformational and why you need more in your life. Because we are holding our very first retreat, our ending body burnout experience in August 2026.
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Filly
And this retreat is called the Body Noise Retreat. And it's being held at The Cove, Tasmania, that's in northwest Tasmania. Beautiful, beautiful place of the world.
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Chris
So nice.
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Filly
So if you have been arming and ring about attending, maybe you're not 100% sure. If it's the thing that you know is worth investing in, whether that's money or time or your attention, I think today's episode will help you to decide, because essentially, we're going to dig into our own experiences of attending retreats and also our past experiences.
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Filly
This is going back pre-COVID, of putting on live in person events. For some of those, we've had hundreds of people attend, so we're not new in putting on in-person experiences. But it has been a while, and I'm so excited to have real in-person human connection for three days. Are you?
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Chris
Yes. So totally. It retreats.
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Filly
A thing. I'm so excited.
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Chris
Retreat and and this sort of in-person, multi-day live event where it's multi hours per day, you know, we've been doing in our Open Doors series over the last few years. We've been we've been doing.
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Filly
Without.
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Chris
Anybody been out.
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Filly
There like out online program.
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Chris
Yeah. So so.
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Filly
Still running by the way. And doors also open in June.
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Chris
Yeah. So so we've been doing that retreats. I think they have played in both of our lives. They've played a in, in our respective retreats that we've been to pivotal absolutely pivotal role in our transformation in ourselves.
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Filly
Hey. Yeah. Yeah. So I thought we'd dig in today. Like what? What we have found most transformative with retreats and how they have changed our changed our health, our life, our relationships, everything for the better. And.
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Filly
And yeah, we'll talk about those experiences. It's going to be good.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Filly
I had a little bubble thread of thought that was half baked and it disappeared. So I'm like, let's just continue on there.
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Chris
Yeah. And if you haven't jumped on to our website, you can check it out. If you're watching this on YouTube, you can see the video, but you can jump onto our website and it's it's there. It's plastered all over the place. You can just click the retreat button, book a ticket, and I'm just showing you a little bit about the page.
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Filly
And a bit about it. So this is an intentionally curated space that is designed for you to go deeply inwards, to really listen in to the loving messages from your body, and to take aligned action to move forward in your health and your life. So this isn't just like this will be a really nice experience for a few days, and then you go back unchanged, living your same old patterns.
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Filly
We're going to do some deep healing, rewiring, investigating, and help you to move through things that you have been feeling really stuck with so that you can yeah, fast track your your growth, your personal development and your healing journey if you are on a healing journey. So think body, mind, root cause coaching, trauma informed somatic practices, breathwork, sound healing, nourishing wholesome food, and the most beautiful private luxury villas.
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Filly
Perched on a cliff overlooking the wild Tasmanian ocean, plus more. It's going to be amazing.
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Filly
Oh, and by the way, we do have an early bird special happening at the moment, but it does end 14th of May. So two days after this podcast is published.
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Chris
That's coming soon. Don't miss.
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Filly
So after the 14th of May, the spots will increase by $500. And we are already. I mean, this may change by the time it gets published, but we are already 50% full.
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Chris
That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. I'm stoked about it.
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Filly
So excited. So we have eight beautiful body whisperers who have said yes to themselves coming on this retreat. I'm genuinely so excited about the people who have who are coming like it's it's just shaping up to be the most beautiful group. And I really believe that the people who need to be there will be there. And we have eight spots left.
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Filly
So I'm also equally excited to find out who that's going to be. Hopefully you.
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Chris
Is it you or is it you?
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Filly
Okay, so to reframe before we go into the for reasons why we believe retreats a transformational, I want to talk about why some retreats actually aren't. Not all retreats are equal. Not all retreats are designed to have a transformative aspect to them. And that is not to say that any other type of retreat is bad. It's just not the retreat where being led and called to put on.
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Filly
So you might like the retreats that aren't transformational are kind of like the ones that you go to to relax, have fun with it by the pool, get a massage, it great food. Maybe you learn to surf or do photography or art. And again, there might be transformational aspects to those. But we're talking about deep rewiring transformation. So that is the type of retreat that we are curating behind the curtains.
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Filly
It's going to be self-discovery, rewiring, and essentially rebirthing yourself back into the world. New you'll be. You will not be the same person that you come into the retreat as when you leave the retreat. And that is so exciting.
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Chris
I also really like the, the metaphor or or or symbolism of of our method that will be applying with you. So align and sometimes you might feel like life's just off track for you, and you feel like maybe it's not completely off track, but I want to make I want to really dial things in. I really want to make sure that I get to where I'm going, and I want to get that that process, that journey really clear on, on the process that I need to go from here to, to where I want to go.
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Chris
And so our aligned practice that we're going to be doing over the course of the three days is so beautiful. It's so profound. It's so wonderful. We've seen already such great transformative results with our clients and with ourselves, and it's going to be just the best.
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Filly
It's going to be the best. Three whole days implementing and embodying.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Filly
Getting aligned. Amazing. So cool. A transformational retreat is also really different to just going away on a holiday, whether that's with other people or with yourself. Again, there's nothing wrong with this. I love going to new places. I love seeing beautiful parts of the world. I love experiencing new things, having an adventure, relaxing. The bonus with a transformational retreat is you get all this plus a transformation.
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Filly
So you get to. I mean, I'm even so excited about going to the Cove, Tasmania. It is literally about only 20 30 minutes away from where we live. I haven't personally stayed there in their beautiful luxury villas, but when we went in there to look around and just feel into if it would be the right place for us, I felt like I had stepped away into another world.
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Filly
I'm like, this is magical and I'm so excited.
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Chris
Sitting on the on the edge of the cove and just looking down at the at the at the cove and the ocean down there. You can also climb a couple of the hills and the peaks that are on either side of it. You can go check out the the farm animals and things like that. And then you go look out over the lily street.
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Chris
There's little penguins. Fairy penguins come in. They won't be there when we're there. But that's the spot. That's where they come in. So it's a magical, magical spot that that we're in.
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Filly
And if you're someone that lives outside of Tasmania and you've never been here, so it's on your bucket list, this is the time. Yeah, it's mania is amazing. Stay a few more days to stay a few more weeks and explore our beautiful state. So the transformational Retreat container I believe is also really different to one on one coaching sessions or a program or a course, regardless of whether that's in person or an online.
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Filly
I definitely believe that you can still get a transformation inside a program. I mean, we see that every week inside our ending body burn out method with our clients who are working through their healing journey. But there's something very different and very unique and very special and very potent about an in-person, multiple day retreat that I have personally experienced fast tracked my transformation in a short space of time.
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Filly
I mean, I've shared it previously, but there was, I think maybe in the last cast I had an issue that I was just feeling really stuck with for many, many, many months. And in not even the four day retreat I went to, it was by day two. By day two, I had had a significant breakthrough and have come home from that changed.
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Filly
And it has like the change hasn't just been for a short period of time. It has been until this very moment that I'm talking into this microphone that I am changed. So if you have been feeling stuck with something, even if you are a client of ours and you've been working through our program, there's something very different about just disconnecting from your everyday life and having many, many hours incubated hours that have been curated for transformation.
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Filly
You can change really quickly in what could have taken a year's worth of working towards that change. And that is not just me like making that up. I have experienced that.
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Chris
There's a saying decades in today's and if you want to to to turn your decades in today's if you want to take what would take, you know, a good ten years or a long amount of years into a short space of time, retreat to transformational retreats are brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
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Filly
Okay, so let's get into the reasons why we believe that retreats a transformational. So number one reason is it's an intentional, curated journey which I've teased just before. So when I think about an intentional, curated journey, like I think about we're jumping into a vehicle, let's use a boat because we are going to be by the sea at the Body Knows retreat.
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Filly
We jump into a boat and the boat is going to take you to a destination. It's not through random chance, it is intentionally created. Also, knowing that there are different unique people with different problems coming into the retreat, but the journey and the map and the pathway to get the transformation, has been thoughtfully prepared in hindsight isn't the right word.
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Filly
It's been thoughtfully thought out.
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Chris
Yeah, it's intentional.
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Filly
It's intentional, it's intentional. It's trying to find a different way of like not repeating intentional, but it's just basically intentional. And personally, not all retreats have done this for me. I've gone to some some great experiences, some like in person, multiple day events, and all of them I have really enjoyed for different reasons. Some had cool speakers, some had a fun vibe, some were relaxing, some even had like lovely somatic practices and interesting conversations.
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Filly
And you know, there was some healing work in there, but it felt very hodgepodge and kind of like just mushed together. And it didn't really do much for me besides going away thinking, oh, that was nice. I'm glad I went. That was that was a lovely time. But I didn't come out of that unchanged. Some experiences to that.
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Filly
I've been to like retreats, conferences were very teaching and information heavy. Again, there's no problem with that and some people love that. And sometimes I've intentionally gone to something knowing that I'm going to be taught a lot of things and I'm I'm here for it. But it didn't give me the space or the vehicle to discover my own answers and tap into my own wisdom.
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Filly
Because it was just like consuming information the whole time. And people like talking, talking, talking, talking a lot and not allowing my own wisdom to come forth, which allows for that transformation. Again, nothing wrong with that. But when I was dreaming up the body noise retreat in my heart, my number one North Star was to take our body whisperers.
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Filly
That's what we're calling it. Calling our retreat. Guess, by the way, in case you didn't get that my number one North Star was to take our body whisperers on a journey where they would leave feeling transformed, where they would leave with a really big shift in what they came into the retreat feeling stuck on. And I'm not saying everything will magically change in three days, but I really believe if you come into a transformational retreat experience, wholeheartedly, that like that will be the the end result.
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Filly
There will be something big that shifts, that becomes a pivotal point in your journey of like healing, health or in life. It'll be something that you can go back to and think, that made all the difference. Do you have like, has anything come to mind in terms of. Because I know that we've had conversations when you have been to retreats and you came back a very changed person and it's something that it's like, I can point to that point in time and say, that was the moment.
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Chris
Yeah. I, I think so there's the content is is one thing. So having the, the, the space and having what you feel the space with the people and the and the material and all that sort of stuff. So that's that. But but I feel like the, the people that took me into their hands while we were at the, at the retreats, I'm thinking about my my, Mark and Mark when, when I went on these retreats with, with those guys, having them hold space for me so that I could be my most authentic real self and the people that were curated to be there in that community, sitting on those couches or on
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Chris
the floors or on a mat or on the on the wherever we were, you know, that the experience, the togetherness and the holding space for, for me, allowed me to to share and be be real and be honest. And I don't think I had ever been that honest with with another, specifically another man before, but but another person.
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Chris
So I think that was the biggest thing. And being in person where there's eye contact, it's them looking at me. And sometimes it was literally like they were they were holding me touching, might have been a hug or, or we might have been just, you know, sitting close to each other in the same sort of proximity. Just that space was out of this world, transformative.
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Chris
And for those of you who've been on transformation retreats before, and if it had experience that sort of connection with with the other people, you'll know what I mean. But yeah, I think that's the biggest thing for me is that holding space, connection, honesty, vulnerability, that sort of thing. And then in addition to that, the content, the stuff, the meat and potatoes, the what comes with that?
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Chris
Just put all that together. Yeah. Amazing.
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Filly
Thank you. You've just tapped into reason for which we'll come back to you soon.
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Chris
It's what I do.
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Filly
It's what it is like. Very like when Chris and Filly come together for a podcast, it's like.
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Chris
Filly has this order and structure and I come and go Swedish chef.
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Chris
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Filly
So just going back to reason number one curated journey. I mean, I wasn't at those retreats with you, but one that we have been on together, the couples retreat. There was a very like just similar to how we're going to take our clients through the align process. Do you remember that there was like a specific process to.
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Filly
Yeah, which was great because it it started like I can't remember the process now, but it started unpacking. No, we started off with ourselves and then what we wanted as a couple and then unravelling all of that.
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Chris
It was.
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Filly
Great and it was very intentional. It wasn't kind of like hold hands and look at each other in the eyes and give each other a kiss. It's like, you know what? We're going to do some real work here so that when you leave this retreat space, your relationship is going to look very different. And it actually uncovered a lot of stuff that was put under the rug and needed to come forth to be worked on.
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Chris
And without the time and the space, it's it's hard to to do that, if not impossible. But but having that that structured. We're going to do this then this, then this and this.
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Filly
Yeah. I also think like with a curated transformational journey, something that personally works best for me. And I think for many human beings, because it's how we're wired, is not just focusing on top down or just focusing on bottom up practices. So what I mean by that is top down is talking, becoming aware, reframing, analysing, deconstructing, finding new evidence.
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Filly
That's top down stuff where we're using our conscious mental cognitive mind that is very intelligent, that can create a lot of change and can guide us to where we need to go. But my personal experience is when I've been to multiple day retreats where that has been kind of like 100% of the focus, I haven't left. In the same way that with retreats that have combined both.
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Filly
So the bottom up is like, let's actually access the wisdom of the body as well. And what does the body need to feel in order to feel safe? And what does the body need to process and what does the body need to move out. So when we were creating the Body Knows retreat, expect to see all of that holistically, crafted together to help you to get a really beautiful experience by the end of it that is transformational.
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Filly
And the issue to if you're only focusing on bottom up experiences, like an example of that would be, I went on a, I don't know, like a breathwork retreat, and all we did was breathwork. I don't know if anyone would do that because that's like a lot of breathing or all we did was meditate or all we did was dance or, you know, whatever it is.
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Filly
But and like in the moment, it was cool. And I think things shifted. But I have like very little understanding around how to like, make sense of this and how to move this and integrate this into my life. And so that can sometimes leave people feeling untethered where it's like, I don't know what to do with this.
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Filly
And sometimes to the stuff that comes up when you're doing bottom up exercises. So more somatic exercises is a lot of discomfort. And and sometimes it can be confusing and sometimes it doesn't feel good. And if you don't have that space in time to unpack it from a top down coaching experience, you can actually leave feeling traumatised. So we want to make sure that all parts of you are on board in order to get the result that you want.
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Filly
And a little note on this before we move on to reason number two, the retreat facilitator, or is and the retreat experience can create the container for potent transformation, but it can't transform you alone. So if you're going to retreat, you do need to meet the experience halfway. Maybe, if not 80% of the way. With an open heart, an open mind, an open body, open to being curious, open to listening, open to hearing what you might not want to hear.
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Filly
Open to kissing the monster of your subconscious fears. It's like, hey there, I see you open to changing. And I think a big thing too is come with an intention. So if you come with a question that you want an answer for, that you're feeling confused or stuck with, or come with an intention for something that you want to change or to break through, that will give you the steps to this.
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Filly
This will really help you to enter the retreat. Your space. Retreat space already having a transformation because you've already formulated an intention. So consciously and unconsciously, you'll know why you're there, which then means the whole experience will just bring everything to the surface. For those of you who have signed up to the retreat, you would know this.
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Filly
For those who haven't signed up, you wouldn't know this. So I will share this with you. We do have a form to fill in, so when you sign up to the retreat, you get sent to a form and you we this explicitly get you to state and name your intention as well as the problem you have been struggling with and what you hope to leave the retreat with.
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Filly
One. This is going to help us to create a really personalised experience for the people that are there. But even more importantly, the moment that you say yes to yourself and you speak out your intention or write it out, your transformational journey has already started. So you will notice that things will start to shift for you even before you step.
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Filly
Step foot into the cove, the space in which we're holding the retreat. In fact, I had a lady signed up, I think was it last week or the week before and sent her a little voice note. So excited! Yay! And she said, I can't believe how changed I feel, the difference that I feel in my body just by having something to look forward to.
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Filly
And that was just her like pressing book. My spot on a computer screen. Already her state had changed. Which is so cool.
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Chris
That's cool.
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Filly
So if you are someone who's a bit of a late last minute, or it's just like, oh no, I'll just wait. I'll just see if there's a spot left. I don't know, yeah, I really want to, but I don't know.
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Chris
But it might not be able.
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Filly
To you might well one you might not be able to because I my, my intuition, my, my heart is saying this will be sold out very soon. But also give yourself the gift of booking in now and having a great experience leading up to it, as opposed to booking in two weeks beforehand. And then it's like, oh, it's here already.
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Filly
There is actually like a lot of healing to have something to look forward to. And, and already your unconscious mind will start, like doing what it needs to do to let go of the thing you're having trouble with. Okay? Reason number two, why we believe retreats are so transformational is their space and time to connect with deeper self.
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Filly
Don't we all want more space and time and quiet for ourselves? I don't know about you, Chris, but when I'm having my one on ones with clients, I mean, we hear it in our group workshops as well. Is the number one thing I hear is I want more me time. I don't have enough time for me. I want more space.
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Filly
I want more peace and quiet. I just want more time for me.
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Chris
And sometimes a sometimes it's easier to to have a big thing like, like this, to be able to, you know, not a scapegoat or an excuse, but, but but a reason, something that you can go, this is this is this is it. I'm going to I'm going to use this time. This is for me. This is this is I'm going to use this time for me.
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Chris
I'm going to devote my time. Whereas that might be a bit challenging with your at your current level to, to give yourself permission to, to give you self that now. So this could be the catalyst to being able to have this time any time that, that you want as well.
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Filly
Yeah, yeah. And if you're, if you're a client listening and you're like oh fire out I see I feel very seen right now. I've said this to Chris and feeling multiple times I want more me time. Then here is my invitation, my love. Come, come and join us at the Body Noise retreat. Make it happen. I know you can.
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Filly
You get to choose if you really want it. You will find the time and even the money that you think you might not have. Because I promise you, I have felt that way too. It's just like, oh, I can't do it. Oh no, it's going to stretch us financially or like, oh, couldn't could it, couldn't like take some time off work or couldn't leave the family.
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Filly
And there have been things that have just pulled me in via my heart and I have said yes, and I've just made it happen. And then afterwards it's like, why did I make such a big deal of that? Like, I can say yes any time.
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Chris
I love those those times where where I feel resistance to to something that I want. I look for those in my life because then I know I'm on track. Yeah, because it's what? What? The obstacles, the way, isn't it, that you're feeling a resistance. You're feeling attention. Good. Yeah. So you should. Yeah. That's the way it works.
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Filly
Now I want to speak into if you're someone who does feel like they have a lack of space and time, you're not alone. It is a very common pattern feeling to have if you have been running burnout patterns for a long time. So things like overdoing, perfectionism, people pleasing, being stuck in flight or freeze space and time can feel like a commodity that keeps slipping out of your grasp.
00:30:05:06 - 00:30:28:10
Filly
It's like when this finishes, then I'll have more time. When Christmas is over, then I'll have more time. When the school term is over, then I'll have more time and it just continually slips out of your grasp. And so I say this with love from a place of helping you to create more of what you want, you have created this scarcity of space and time.
00:30:28:12 - 00:30:54:00
Filly
No one else has but you have, which also means that you can choose to carve out space and time for yourself and untangle yourself from a busy schedule. So not going to happen overnight. And depending on your situation, because everyone's situation and currency is in a life is different. Like a new mom with a brand new baby sucking on her boob almost all day and all night.
00:30:54:06 - 00:31:20:17
Filly
Her time looks very different to a person who is in retirement. But if you're feeling like I have no space and time, you can carve it out. Even if that looks like 30 minutes a day for yourself. Maybe 3 to 4 days for yourself to come to a retreat is just like, a bit out of out of capacity at the moment for your current season.
00:31:20:22 - 00:31:27:03
Filly
But I, I am pretty sure that you can carve out 30 minutes a day for yourself.
00:31:27:05 - 00:31:29:17
Chris
So, so.
00:31:29:18 - 00:31:33:02
Filly
Also, you could also find 3 to 4 days because anything's possible.
00:31:33:03 - 00:31:57:19
Chris
Yeah. True that. Also, if you feel like, you know, if I could have this then I then I'll be able to do, do that if I could just and you know you're waiting for that. We call this the victim mentality or the or the or you're a slave really. You're choosing to to see yourself as a slave. I can't because I am locked in, I am tethered.
00:31:57:19 - 00:32:23:07
Chris
I know you haven't. It's not real. It's all just pretend. It's in your head and you might. I'm excited if you disagree with me because I, I, I'm okay with that. But this is the victim mentality. And I look for those when, when that pops up for me I'm like boom Chris hello hello victim mentality that that popped up.
00:32:23:08 - 00:32:42:01
Chris
What's going on there. And so this could be a catalyst for you to have a transformation just in the process of, of thinking about coming to the retreat. You know, you've got this resistance. It's this, oh I if I had blah blah blah then I would then I would do it. And it's like, oh hell, hide a little victim.
00:32:42:02 - 00:33:07:00
Chris
Hello little, little, little slave mentality right there. Like you feel you feel shackled. You feel impoverished. Right? There are. And you might think that that I'm I'm not being very sensitive and. Well, I don't know you. I don't know your situation. You know, you. But, this could be a growth experience for you whether you come or not.
00:33:07:02 - 00:33:13:20
Chris
Anytime you feel like this. You're running a slave victim mentality pattern.
00:33:13:21 - 00:33:36:12
Filly
And it is interesting, or one of our clients who is coming. I know I've had many conversations with her around not having enough time even to like, I don't know, turn up to a one on one or a workshop. It's just like, oh, I just like it just had had been feeling so much like everyone else was taking up her time.
00:33:36:12 - 00:33:55:21
Filly
Everything else was taking up her time. And then magically, it's like, I am coming. It's like, whoa, where'd you find that time? The time was always there. It's just sometimes you need to tell a different story. Sometimes maybe you don't even tell a different story, and you just take action, and then you realise that the world doesn't fall apart around you.
00:33:55:21 - 00:34:21:18
Filly
And in fact, it gets better. And then that's like collecting evidence along the way that it's like, oh, I can be different. And actually this time thing that this is like, it's not even real. I recently did a five week course with my meditation mentor, Thomas McConkie, about tuning into the deepest part of ourselves. So it was a bit more of a spiritual journey.
00:34:21:20 - 00:34:42:08
Filly
He calls this our steel point. So we do like I use the phrase a lot, the deepest part of you that wants the best for you. Now you could call that your heart, your soul, your spirit, the part of you and your unconscious mind, or your higher brain that wants the best for you, whatever it is. I loved how he called it our steel point.
00:34:42:08 - 00:35:11:03
Filly
So our steel point is always there, even when we're feeling like we're not still, even when we're feeling like we're out of presence. But it's always there. How? And in order to access and to connect with our steel point, there must be stillness and presence in some point with us. So if we're too busy running around doing all the things, it's very hard to access this beautiful, pure, wise and loving part of us.
00:35:11:05 - 00:35:32:09
Filly
So part of the course was creating a life rhythm to create time and space to nourish the steel point. And I really loved his rhythm, and it's something that I've taken on as well. So this is not a prescription, by the way, but this might be just something for you to think about to in terms of implementing it into your own life.
00:35:32:09 - 00:36:08:09
Filly
So two times a day, creating an intentional space to have a steel point. And there's no time frame in that. That could be five minutes of like taking a herbal tea out onto the deck and watching the sun. Or it could be a one hour, I don't know, meditation session, whatever. So two times a day of intentional steel point sessions, and then every month doing a longer session of like a half day, maybe 3 or 4 hours, and then every year going on a retreat.
00:36:08:11 - 00:36:33:01
Filly
Now for Thomas, that's seven days. And he goes, he does like a seven day silent retreat, often by himself. And then he hosts other retreats in America. But it was so cool. And he said that because last year before I did this course, I just had this pool to go on a retreat once a year for myself, for no other reason but to connect in with myself.
00:36:33:01 - 00:37:11:14
Filly
And I have did that last year. I'm booked in to go to a retreat in Fiji in June, which I'm super excited. And I don't know, that might actually become more than once a year because I really love retreats now. And so I have personally taken that on as well. Not specifically how Thomas has done it, but to have that week, that weekly, daily, monthly and yearly rhythm to really necked in with yourself is something that will heal you and maintain your health and your life for years to come.
00:37:11:16 - 00:37:29:07
Chris
It sounds like the Army Reserves is one night a week, one one fortnight a month. One oh, sorry, 111 night a week, one weekend a month, one fortnight a year or or in our. Well.
00:37:29:07 - 00:37:45:20
Filly
It's creating a consistent like with anything that becomes like a yeah consistent rhythm. And that doesn't have to be like super structured either. It could be a rhythm of like a few times a month. Not sure when that happens, but it happens a few times a month. Yeah. Were you going to say something.
00:37:45:20 - 00:38:12:17
Chris
About so our ending body burnout method clients, we encourage them to. It's almost like a certificate for in you. And it is 100 hours. It's. And when you add up all the contact time with filling and I and then their own internal work, their personal work and they're plugging their thoughts into the outlets and which is what we call our workbook journal type stuff.
00:38:12:21 - 00:38:34:17
Chris
You add all that up, it equals about 100 hours of stuff. And we the way we bundle up our anybody burnout method is like a six month initial six month process. And most people can get either all the way there or a good chunk of the way there towards their 100 hours. Some people need a little bit more time.
00:38:34:18 - 00:38:53:16
Chris
Some people get to the 100 hours and need a little bit more extra time than that. But but yeah, having some sort of a rhythm like what you said, or Army Reserve style or 100 hour rule. You know, it's really good. Retreats can form a amazing, amazing.
00:38:53:18 - 00:39:39:12
Filly
Many hours. Hot even over three days. Yeah. One last thing on that. Like I had already before I started going to multiple day retreats, I'd already created a, like, a rhythmic practice of listening into myself. But I there was just something really magical around having, again, multiple days of deep connection with self. And I like it's a combination of all the things we're talking about today, but that was definitely a huge aspect as to why I could break through something in two days that had already been taking me four plus months to try and and break through and work through.
00:39:39:14 - 00:40:05:11
Filly
And when you're in that communion with self, it is a magical place to live in and live from. Not only is it healing and it will prevent ongoing burnout, but I have experienced more joy, more peace, more groundedness, more presence, more happiness, more alignment, more purpose, more passion, more excitement from living from this place. And it's not something that's just going to come to you.
00:40:05:11 - 00:40:12:19
Filly
It is a practice you need to cultivate, and that practice requires time.
00:40:12:21 - 00:40:46:00
Filly
Okay, just a little a couple of stats for those who like stats. I'm always a big fan of stats, but when I was looking into their studies around retreats because I was curious, I'm like, I'm like, I have lived experience that they're transformational. But is there anything that actually happens for people who go on transformational retreats? So there are studies that show that reduced cortisol, that retreats can reduce cortisol and improve health.
00:40:46:02 - 00:41:18:04
Filly
And this is not just like a little workshop. It's this is studies around multiple day retreats can significantly reduce that cortisol by up to 60% and improve mental clarity by 93%, and in some cases provide lasting health benefits for up to five years. I'm like, who wouldn't want to invest in that one? Have an amazing experience in a different location, eating great food, being with great people and have lasting healing benefits for years to come.
00:41:18:06 - 00:41:21:14
Filly
Hell yes!
00:41:21:16 - 00:41:28:13
Chris
Have you guys heard this joke? 42.87% of all statistics are made up on the spot, except for that one.
00:41:28:15 - 00:41:58:02
Filly
There was another one that said that immersive weeklong retreats wellbeing retreats considered significantly enhanced long term metabolic health and overall well-being as well. So that was really cool. So it will it will change how you feel in your body. It will change how you live in your body. And it won't. Transformational retreats they lost varies like a deep seated.
00:41:58:03 - 00:42:23:17
Filly
Well, I mean, those studies just showed a physical change and metaphysical change that continues post the retreat. And that's where the magic really happens, is you integrate that into your life. Okay. Reason number three meaningful connections with others, which I think is what Chris was touching based on when he was talking about his retreats that he went on with Mark and Mark.
00:42:23:19 - 00:42:25:07
Chris
Mark.
00:42:25:08 - 00:42:54:14
Filly
So personally, I am an introvert and I didn't realise how special and how much I would value being with a small group of like minded people during a transformational retreat. When I first signed up to my very first retreat, it was not to connect with other people. It wasn't even like because it was in person. Maybe the location had a little bit to do with it, but it was kind of like, no, I want to go there for a transformation.
00:42:54:14 - 00:43:19:03
Filly
And I didn't realise how beautiful and wonderful and spiritual it was. It would be to be in a group of people who are all there for the same reason. And to be honest, I had quite a bit of social anxiety around going on multiple day retreats by myself. It was like, oh, who am I going to get like lodged with?
00:43:19:03 - 00:43:23:15
Filly
And like, oh, what if I say something weird and people.
00:43:23:15 - 00:43:27:17
Filly
Don't like me, blah blah blah blah blah.
00:43:27:19 - 00:43:56:07
Filly
What I noticed though, and this is comparing non transformational retreats or like model day experiences versus transformational retreats is I still don't love going or going to, whether it's like a conference or a surface level retreat, because I don't love small talk. And I have been to some experiences where it was like the interactions with other people were superficial, they were masked.
00:43:56:07 - 00:44:26:03
Filly
It was kind of like awkward small talk. What do you do for a living? Blah blah blah blah blah. How old are your kids on the other side? The transformational retreats that I have been to have been cultivated to have deep, honest, truthful, meaningful conversations with a group of strangers. And that has been transformation transformative in itself. So now when I go and I know that I'm going to a space that's going to be transformation, there is no social anxiety at all.
00:44:26:03 - 00:44:36:08
Filly
Because I know that, like many full conversations, I feel safe in those versus superficial small talk.
00:44:36:13 - 00:44:37:14
Filly
Blah blah, blah blah blah.
00:44:37:15 - 00:44:41:04
Filly
I'm like, I'd rather just go spend some time on my own.
00:44:41:06 - 00:44:42:05
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:42:07 - 00:45:13:16
Filly
Not yeah, safe, but also enlivened by those like they excite me, they move me. And so the qualities that I felt made it so it was an intentional retreat for Deep Shift. The facilitators and the mentors that, you know, we have both been to us, the deep, difficult and heart opening questions. One retreat started off where the very first conversation was, where?
00:45:13:17 - 00:45:31:11
Filly
Where in your life are you sacrificing yourself? And she's like, Journal on that for a bit. And I'm like, oh, that's a big question. And then another retreat. The couple's retreat that we went on started off with do you Love me? And if the answer was no, the next question was.
00:45:31:12 - 00:45:33:03
Chris
See you later.
00:45:33:05 - 00:45:51:13
Filly
Well, no. If the answer was no, the next question was, are you willing to learn to love me again? Oh, yeah. And if you've been around us for long enough, whether just as a listener on the podcast or as a client, you know that Chris and I will ask the deep and difficult and opening questions that will lead to a transformation.
00:45:51:13 - 00:46:25:05
Filly
And this is 100% what you can expect for the body knows retreat as well. Also with like that human connection that is transformational. Something that also makes that so is when I have felt like it has been a safe, judgement free space where I can show up as myself, Watson or patterns and all to work through my stuff, knowing that we all have our stuff, and that looking at patterns and beliefs and stories and fears and blocks that are no longer serving us.
00:46:25:06 - 00:46:53:04
Filly
Like it's not weird. It's actually the most loving, caring, safest thing that you can do for yourself. Another thing, and you touched on this. Chris was being seen and heard, kind of like being witnessed by other people in real life, where you can look at them in their eyes sometimes, you know, when we've held like three workshops and it's like a people even listening.
00:46:53:06 - 00:47:12:10
Filly
I mean, there's always there's always the people that are because they're very engaged in the chat box or, you know, you can see in their expression that they're following along. But then there's also like a whole heap of screens that aren't on with a random name, or people with screens on that are kind of like walking around in the background and like, there's no judgement in that.
00:47:12:10 - 00:47:40:23
Filly
But when you're in a in person, small group retreat, presence is forced. I say that in a like, not necessarily like a like you have to be present, but it is. It's almost like I am here, standing bare naked, not literally, but in front of real life humans. And because I want to be here. Sometimes when you jump onto something online, it's like I am.
00:47:40:23 - 00:48:02:10
Filly
I do want to be here, but the brain and you know, you get distracted and all sorts of stuff. So there's something really special about being seen and heard in all your nakedness and truth, and to also have other people applaud you and to cheer you on and to share their own insights. Like something. I remember the couples retreat.
00:48:02:10 - 00:48:40:07
Filly
There were a few people there that it was almost like they were the participants, but it was also a mastermind as well, where it wasn't just the mental, you know, guiding, guiding the experience and offering the wisdom. It was also other people's wisdom. And it's like, oh, we're all we're all the same, but different. But we can all learn from each other, and we can all see and hear each other and go back into real life and into the world, feeling more courageous to be you in all your authentic ness, because you have been witnessed by someone else for multiple days and multiple hours.
00:48:40:07 - 00:49:06:05
Chris
That's what the mastermind is. I forget who you talked about the mastermind and Napoleon Hill maybe, or whoever it was. But the mastermind is the the wisdom, the collective wisdom of the of the whole. And, Yeah, I when when you come to a retreat.
00:49:06:07 - 00:49:09:02
Chris
That mastermind effect is, is present.
00:49:09:04 - 00:49:38:04
Filly
And it's also very biologically wired in our DNA. So we live in a world that's so disconnected now we are more connected than ever than ever through the internet and through, like, aeroplanes and stuff. But we are more disconnected than ever. People are stuck on phones, devices, doom scrolling, interacting through text or socials or email. I was listening to a podcast the other day and it was Esther Kapell.
00:49:38:05 - 00:50:11:08
Filly
She's like the relationship expert woman, and she did a podcast with someone who was having a romantic relationship with AI. She's like, this is happening. People like, wow, people are having romantic relationships with robots now. And she was curiously asking, like, what's happening inside there? And like, how is that working for you? So the infrastructure of living in tribes, which we evolved from, I feel really has shattered in our Western and modern worlds.
00:50:11:10 - 00:50:43:07
Filly
Even like families not being together as much as what they used to be. So there's something really not just like nice, but something in our DNA that just is craving that whether you consciously realising realise it or not, your DNA is craving in person tribal experience, which is essentially one of the big reasons why I was feeling pulled to creating this retreat.
00:50:43:08 - 00:50:59:12
Filly
I'm like, I can't wait to give our client from Queensland, for example, who is coming hugging real life and be like, oh my gosh, I like I feel you now like I physically am holding you in my hand. How special is that?
00:50:59:14 - 00:51:05:14
Chris
Very cool.
00:51:05:16 - 00:51:28:14
Filly
Okay, so the energy of being in a group of people too is very contagious. Like there's a lot of research around the nervous system and that we're constantly co-writing with people in our physical environment. And so if everyone is learning and growing and transforming together, it is like it's contagious. And that is one of the reasons why a retreat can fast track your healing.
00:51:28:16 - 00:51:52:07
Filly
Last week I spoke about the breathwork session that I did and how the miscarriage came to the surface to process and to let go. What I didn't mention, I don't think, was that I don't think I would have had that experience if I did a breathwork session using a YouTube video on my own, because one of the there are a couple of things, like I could physically hear other people breathing beside me.
00:51:52:08 - 00:52:15:23
Filly
I could hear other people crying beside me. Before we entered the breathwork, I learnt about some of the people in the group and, you know, one person talked about grief and loss and so even all of that, like other people's experiences and hearing them beside me, was actually seeding what I needed to shift. And it was coming to the surface.
00:52:16:01 - 00:52:24:22
Filly
And I wouldn't have got that if I was just doing that on my own.
00:52:25:00 - 00:52:58:14
Filly
Okay, last point number four. Why I believe transformation retreats transformational and not all retreats have this, but as well is that we get to immerse into nature. Oh, for me, nature is where I feel the most in tune with myself and with things bigger and greater than myself. Nature is healing. It's restorative. It's restful. It's inspiring. Pretty sure you have experienced that as well.
00:52:58:14 - 00:53:16:14
Filly
So just like living in a world where people are feeling more relationally disconnected because of tech and AI and all that sort of stuff, we're also living in a world where people are more disconnected from nature. Chris is showing a little penguin picture.
00:53:16:16 - 00:53:18:15
Filly
There's little penguins at the Cove.
00:53:18:16 - 00:53:19:01
Chris
They won't.
00:53:19:01 - 00:53:21:18
Chris
Be there when we're there, but but.
00:53:21:20 - 00:53:22:16
Filly
Who knows though?
00:53:22:17 - 00:53:34:16
Filly
Like we just had the warmest May day in the last 163 years. So they start coming back in September, so they might do an early appearance for us.
00:53:34:18 - 00:53:36:19
Chris
That's awesome.
00:53:36:21 - 00:53:55:07
Filly
But people are very disconnected from nature. I even hear this from people who live in or right near nature. It's just like, oh, I never get time to get out there. I'm like, so caught up with my with work or family or my responsibilities or all the things that I'm doing or like, technology is taking over and I want more nature.
00:53:55:07 - 00:54:12:13
Filly
I'm craving it and I'm not getting enough of it. So this is this is really common for a lot of people. And here's the thing. And this is why it's actually destroying us. That's a bit big of a word. Let's this.
00:54:12:13 - 00:54:14:12
Filly
Is why this is why it's.
00:54:14:13 - 00:54:45:23
Filly
Actually not healthy for our body, is because our human body is natural, like we are nature. We are Mother Earth. Our very existence relies on the air that we breathe, the nutrients from the earth that we eat. We aren't robots. We're not AI. We aren't technology. We are not work factories. We are nature. And so to deeply listen in to what our bodies are trying to tell us, nature can be this beautiful, healing, supportive vessel in order to do this like nature.
00:54:45:23 - 00:55:13:05
Filly
And I've experienced this in myself. Nature assists us in our healing. Nature heals us because we heal us and you heal you. Not a lab, not appeal, not a supplement, not a meditation app. You heal you. And when you can get back into touch with your raw, natural humanness through the earth, through deep presence with the earth, and not just like a quick little selfie or it's just like, yay!
00:55:13:05 - 00:55:40:01
Filly
I just like, went to this beautiful place. Ding! All right, let's go. Now where's the next place? But you're actually, like in communion. Communion with the earth, with slowness and presence and being in nature for multiple days. This is healing. And again, it fast tracks that growth and healing. Another reason why it can be transformational. So again, this was an element that I just I wanted to bring in to the Body Knows retreat.
00:55:40:01 - 00:56:03:21
Filly
I knew it had to be in a part of the planet that was natural and quiet and beautiful and inspiring, because the place will do half the healing. I was talking to one of my coaches and he said, it doesn't really matter where it is, as long as it's like, you know, if transformation is is what's important, then like, you know, you could do it anywhere, you know?
00:56:03:21 - 00:56:44:17
Filly
And there was something I'm like, yes, like I partly agree, but also I want the place to be to reflect what is happening inside of you when you're going through this deep self-discovery, connection and transformation. And I have been I mean, we've been to other retreats, multiple day events where it's been in a conference room or even like in the city, maybe, you know, I've been to a place where it was in a beautiful hotel, like it was beautiful, and the woman spent thousands of dollars decorating the place.
00:56:44:19 - 00:56:49:04
Filly
But it wasn't it was like just in in town. In the.
00:56:49:04 - 00:56:52:04
Filly
City or in, like, a clinical room.
00:56:52:04 - 00:57:15:15
Filly
And then I've been to other experiences or it's been nestled away in nature and 100% I know where my body and mind and heart respond best and heal best, and it's in nature. So when Chris and I were looking for a place to hold the body nose retreat, I was one feeling really cool to hold it in Tasmania, in our in our place, our state.
00:57:15:17 - 00:57:46:16
Filly
We always say to each other, we live in Paradise. And I personally like I grew up in Tassie Christian, but I neglected how amazing or disregarded how amazing Tasmania was when I was growing up. I remember as a teenager, early 20 and I can't wait to get out of Tassie. It's so backwards. I want to get to the big smoke, and part of my own healing journey.
00:57:46:16 - 00:58:15:22
Filly
Looks like creating a lifestyle and a schedule that allowed me to be out in nature more. And since then I've had just some really deep, profound healing connection inside nature. And yeah, whenever we go over to the mainland, which is also which is also like beautiful places, like we've travelled to beautiful places, but coming home to the north west coast of Tasmania, it's Paradise.
00:58:16:00 - 00:58:18:12
Chris
This is, this is this is it. This is this is.
00:58:18:12 - 00:58:31:01
Chris
Where we are. So if you can see my screen here, this is just in Canva. You come off the highway. I don't know if you can see my cursor. You come off the highway, you drive up this road and then as your.
00:58:31:01 - 00:58:32:01
Filly
Photo doesn't do it just.
00:58:32:02 - 00:58:32:12
Chris
Doesn't do it.
00:58:32:12 - 00:58:33:18
Filly
Just this actually isn't a great.
00:58:33:23 - 00:58:36:19
Chris
This is an awful this is a. Yeah.
00:58:36:21 - 00:58:41:05
Chris
So you drive up this and you're like, driving past the Highland cows and all this sort.
00:58:41:05 - 00:58:42:00
Chris
Of stuff.
00:58:42:02 - 00:58:44:15
Filly
Yeah. That's cute. Kylie, cows and alpacas.
00:58:44:19 - 00:59:02:07
Chris
Come in here and there's the Alexander Centre is right there. And you've got the Cheviot Suites up here. And then you've got up here, you've got cliffside, then down here, you've got the what's this one called?
00:59:02:07 - 00:59:03:11
Filly
Hillside side cabins.
00:59:03:12 - 00:59:08:18
Chris
Hillside cabins. And then over here you've got the, the.
00:59:08:20 - 00:59:10:14
Filly
Hot tub, outdoor hot tubs.
00:59:10:15 - 00:59:13:09
Chris
And then up here you've got a beautiful.
00:59:13:11 - 00:59:13:22
Filly
Cafe.
00:59:13:23 - 00:59:14:13
Chris
Cafe.
00:59:14:14 - 00:59:23:05
Chris
The atrium and where we'll be doing most of our, our stuff together will be in and around this sort of area here.
00:59:23:07 - 00:59:29:03
Filly
But there's so many. I took my girls for a walk there and there's so many. Just beautiful.
00:59:29:05 - 00:59:29:10
Chris
Little.
00:59:29:10 - 00:59:30:05
Chris
Places.
00:59:30:06 - 00:59:34:15
Filly
Natural spots down on the rocks and on the hill and.
00:59:34:17 - 00:59:38:02
Chris
Get down down here. You've got this beautiful cove.
00:59:38:03 - 00:59:39:21
Filly
You can go swimming if you want to. If you want to.
00:59:39:21 - 00:59:40:17
Chris
Do.
00:59:40:19 - 00:59:43:05
Filly
A winter ocean dip, bring your togs.
00:59:43:06 - 01:00:08:01
Chris
Down here. You've got this little wallaby well kept wallaby grass area. They they keep the grass short. You can sit there over the cliffs and just just transform in silence and waves. But then there's plenty of spots just around here. You've got deckchairs. You've got a hot tub here. Communal one. Fire pit, all this sort of stuff that.
01:00:08:02 - 01:00:15:14
Chris
Oh, man, I can't wait to to get in there. You've got the the dams here. You've got a social room up here.
01:00:15:14 - 01:00:39:01
Filly
Very cool. Yeah. And there have been a lot of really special places open up to us in Tasmania where we we could have held the retreat. And, you know, we might hold it in other places in the future. I can. I'm inviting lots of retreats to come. But we have chose The Cove, Tasmania. The moment that we walked into the venue, it was on a really stormy day.
01:00:39:01 - 01:00:42:18
Filly
Do you remember that after Eco Fest?
01:00:42:20 - 01:00:43:11
Chris
Yes.
01:00:43:11 - 01:01:12:04
Filly
Rainy. Windy. We walked in through the accommodation and then out onto the cliff and the waves are just crashing up. And we both looked at each other and it's like, this is the place. And my body was like, full body. Yes, let's do it. Even though it was a big risk to hold it here. It's like if we only sell two spots, we will be out of pocket.
01:01:12:04 - 01:01:13:04
Chris
A lot.
01:01:13:05 - 01:01:37:20
Filly
Of we're going to have donated a lot of money here. But this. Is this is well, this is the part two of, I guess, like connecting in with self that I was talking about and that still point. So if my body said yes and my heart said yes, I'm like, this will happen and it's going to happen and it's going to be wonderful and it's going to be beautiful and we're going to do it here.
01:01:37:20 - 01:02:00:08
Filly
And since we have booked the spot in, I have had no fear response in my body about it, which I'm just reflecting on that now because old Filly, before I did any of this work, would have been freaking out. It would have been like, oh, maybe we shouldn't have done it here. What if it doesn't work? What if, what if, what if, what if?
01:02:00:08 - 01:02:06:06
Filly
But it's like, no, if my heart says yes, I'm going to follow through.
01:02:06:08 - 01:02:07:22
Chris
All right. In conclusion.
01:02:07:23 - 01:02:14:06
Filly
Yes. Well, that is it. Come to the retreat. If your.
01:02:14:06 - 01:02:16:11
Chris
King concludes.
01:02:16:13 - 01:02:18:12
Filly
We've only got eight spots left. That might.
01:02:18:12 - 01:02:19:07
Chris
Be less.
01:02:19:10 - 01:02:32:12
Filly
By the time the podcast releases. And the early bird does end on the 14th of May. So if you wanted to say $500 on your spot, head down to the show notes and come and join us.
01:02:32:13 - 01:02:38:03
Chris
What's the date now in the future? Excited at this time? And they're listening.
01:02:38:05 - 01:02:43:00
Filly
Well, if someone's listening on the day of recording, I think it's the 12th of May.
01:02:43:02 - 01:02:52:16
Chris
Yeah. So, so so, hello. From the from the past. Future people come to our retreat. Doesn't make any sense.
01:02:52:20 - 01:02:55:08
Filly
Goodbye.
01:02:55:10 - 01:03:01:12
Chris
Have the best day ever. See us.
01:03:01:14 - 01:03:11:13
Filly
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01:03:11:18 - 01:03:30:06
Chris
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