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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending body Burnout show. We are your host, Chris and Filly, co-founders of a multi winning functional medicine practice serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
Well, business, addictive doing, people pleasing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
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Filly
So get ready to heal your body, get your spark back deeply, connect with yourself, and step into the life of your dreams.
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Chris
Let's dive in.
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Chris
Hi guys! Welcome to this episode of the Ending body Burnout show. And I are going to be talking about something that, we've both experienced and that we have a lot of experience helping other people with. What do we got today.
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Filly
Is recovering from adrenal fatigue. So we're doing this episode for a few reasons. One of the main reasons is we've recently released a beautiful course called Adrenal Fatigue Reset, which I'm personally so excited about. It is something that our community have been asking for, especially for those who haven't felt quite ready to jump in to the ending body burnout method the full holistic deep root root cause program, as something that I was hearing was could I just start off with some testing?
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Filly
Could I just start off with, you know, a part of what you do and get the ball rolling, see how I go and then, you know, take the next steps if and as I need to. So in today's episode we're going to we're going to share a little bit about what's inside the course. I'm also going to share my own personal journey healing adrenal fatigue.
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Filly
And Chris, you're welcome to share any tidbits that you learnt along the way when you had adrenal fatigue. And also we'll end with signs and symptoms of adrenal fatigue so that, you know, if it's even something to consider thinking about as part of your, getting to the root of what's going on for you. And if it's a body system that needs some TLC.
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Filly
So we might start off with chatting about our course that we recently released now, I was so excited about launching it that we launched it without a profit. You know, it's called a landing page or a sales page where there's beautiful videos and lots of information about everything that's inside of it and all the benefits and how it can help you.
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Filly
And I was just like, stuff it, it's Black Friday, let's launch it. Let's do a nice special let's do it. And then I, my business coach, when I told her what I did, she's like, what? That's like taking. That's like a boy asking you to go on a date. And he touches your boob on the first day.
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Filly
It's like you just sent them to a checkout and said, buy my thing without, like, getting to know what it is or getting to know you. And I'm like, oh, yeah, okay. So anyway, we've got a beautiful landing page now you can learn more about it, but we're also going to talk about it in today's episode. So I think I don't know, maybe we should reverse the order.
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Filly
I was going to talk about the course first, but I actually think it would be more useful if we talk about, what adrenal fatigue is, what are the signs and symptoms. We'll share our story, and then we'll circle back to how the course can help you.
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Chris
Okay.
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Filly
I think that that will make more logical sense. In terms of. Yeah, just I guess seeing if it's something that. Yeah, if it's something that you could consider looking into or should consider looking into. Okay. Sorry, I'm just going to give you just a real short recap of adrenal fatigue. I mean, we talk about it in a lot of other episodes, especially when we do a Connect the Dots episode where we take someone's case and we talk about the body systems that are going on underneath it.
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Filly
You've probably noticed if you've listened to those, those episodes that I talk about adrenal fatigue and all of them, because it really is the Achilles heel in all the body systems. If you're adrenal start burning out, they going to at some point start impacting your gut, your detox pathways, your neurotransmitters, your it can burn through nutrients. So you end up with nutritional deficiencies.
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Filly
So when it comes to, prescribing tests to our 101 clients who work with us inside the ending body burnout method, 95% of them, I will prescribe an adrenal test because if everyone if someone showing up with burnout signs 95% of the time the adrenals are burnt out. The only reason why I wouldn't prescribe an adrenal test would be because they've recently done one with another practitioner, or maybe they even did one three years ago and their adrenals were fine, which is rare.
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Filly
But they haven't felt any different since. So basically, when you go into adrenal fatigue, it is because you have been experiencing a lot of chronic stress. And that could come in many ways. It could be mental, emotional, it could be unconscious stress, repressed emotions, dark trauma, dysfunctional beliefs. It also could be physical stress. So if you've been eating a lot of processed foods or, jacking off on caffeine or alcohol or you're exposed to toxins in your world, there's lots of different ways that our adrenals will respond to stress, and it kind of doesn't distinguish the type of stress either.
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Filly
So you could have an email that pops up in your inbox, and if you've developed a pattern where emails are dangerous, it causes the fight flight response. Your adrenals secrete cortisol in the same way as if you saw a tiger. Okay, they probably excrete a lot more cortisol if you saw a tiger vet, generally speaking. And so when you've been producing too much cortisol, which is your main stress hormone for too long, at some point the brain says we cannot control cortisol very well anymore.
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Filly
In fact, we're really tired. And so there's another lovely balancing stress hormone called DHEA, which is constantly trying to bring cortisol down. But at some point DHEA will do play. And when that happens and it doesn't matter where you cortisol levels are at the moment that DHEA depletes, you drop into adrenal fatigue. And then over time your body is producing cortisol.
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Filly
And this time there's no hormone to balance it. So your system basically gets stuck in fight, flight or freeze. You're not responding to stress in a regulatory way, regulated way. And then at some point the body can only produce so much cortisol for so long. So the cortisol levels start to deflate. It's such a common condition, body system imbalance that we see in almost all of our clients.
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Filly
So, these are some really common signs of adrenal fatigue. And if you take three or more of these common signs, then it would be worth testing your adrenals, which is what you get to do without adrenal fatigue. Reset course. The course does include an adrenal test, so if you have fatigue or energy issues, the reason why adrenal fatigue is called coined adrenal fatigue is not because the adrenals get tired, but literally because when you're in adrenal fatigue, you are tired.
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Filly
You might feel wired and tired initially, and then if it goes on for too long, that's often when people develop chronic fatigue. When you're in adrenal fatigue, you like really common symptoms, mental health issues. So because your system feels like you're always in danger, the tiger is always chasing you. It can show off as anxiety, overwhelmed, mood swings if that goes on for long enough, depression.
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Filly
You can also have weight issues. So the adrenals are really important for the metabolism. If the adrenals are fatigued, then your ability to burn fat, to turn food into energy gets compromised. And so then that can lead often to weight increase issues or difficulty losing weight occasionally. I've seen it in clients where they've just been through the fat and muscle tissue, because their system is in such a state of stress.
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Filly
Adrenal fatigue will also impact hormones. I had, was posting some posts around adrenal fatigue. Recently. And actually I had all the symptoms that show up in adrenal fatigue in a real. And a lady commented and she said, what if it's just what if it's perimenopause? It's like, yeah, it could be. However, if a woman worked with us one on one and I'm running a bunch of tests or like, I'm trying to work out what's going on underneath her perimenopause symptoms.
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Filly
Adrenals are so common. Because your progesterone, oestrogen and testosterone. In order to convert those hormones, you need to be producing cortisol and DHEA. So if the stress hormones are depleted, then it's really hard to actually even produce and secrete your sex hormones. And this is one of the reasons why women who go on HRT, might not get improvements or they might get some, but there's no not full resolution of their health issues.
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Filly
It's because there's all this stuff going on underneath the surface, and it often is, because there's adrenal issues, which is having a downstream effect on the sex hormones. If a woman's still cycling, it could show up as PMS, irregular cycles, infertility. Insomnia is a big one. Again, we need systems in a state of stress. It's difficult to drop into a deep, restful state unconsciously when you sleep, it can also start impacting your gut.
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Filly
So gut issues can show up. Bloating, diarrhoea, constipation, food sensitivities. When you're in adrenal fatigue and there's a lot of chronic stress, it suppresses your immune system. So another symptom might be you're catching colds and flu and infections. Or you can swing the other way where your immune system is actually becoming hyper active. It's like there is a lot of danger here.
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Filly
Where is the danger? And that's where chemical sensitivities can start showing up. Autoimmunity, we nervous system type issues, headaches and migraines, really common. Food and beverage cravings can be really common. So sugar and salt super common. Because cortisol is interacting with your blood sugar level. So if you've got cortisol going nuts and not being regulated very well, it can lead to sugar cravings.
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Filly
Even things like prediabetes, diabetes, and also when you're in adrenal fatigue, you burn off a lot of, minerals. And so that's where you can get a lot of salt cravings. Body pain, brain fog, poor exercise, recovery. Also very common signs of adrenal fatigue.
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Filly
Anything to add, Chris? So you feel like like, personally, when I think back to when I had adrenal fatigue, I ticked off almost all of those symptoms. Probably the only one I didn't have was well, I didn't drink caffeine and alcohol, so I didn't have those cravings. And I wasn't in menopause. Sorry, but I had everything else.
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Chris
That's a good list of of physical symptoms. And and as part of our adrenal fatigue reset program and protocols, we focus on those physical things. What I can say is, with that list, can you go back to that list of of stuff, honey? Yeah. With this list of stuff, I mean, have you ever heard this saying, if you're if you've set your life up so that you're constantly putting out fires, you're going to burn out.
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Chris
So that sounds exhausting. If you've got, conflicting, conflicting parts of you, that's that's exhausting. If you're I'm, if you use the word constantly, let's say you're constantly if you're constantly worried or you're constantly stressed, you're constantly thinking of of things that could go wrong. That's exhausting. Yeah. If you're letting things keep you up at night, metaphorically speaking, that's exhausting.
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Chris
If you've got stuff that you just can't, you've got this gut feeling, you can't hold on to stuff or you've got some crap going on in your life. That's exhausting. If you're sensitive not just to the food that you eat and put into your body, you're sensitive with the world around you. That's exhausting. If you constantly crave for something just to be a little bit sweeter, constantly crave for something to to be nicer in your life, that's exhausting.
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Chris
If you're constantly craving for something more, enough. That's exhausting. And so no wonder if you've got these these thoughts, feelings, metaphysical stuff going on. It wouldn't surprise me at all if your lab tests come back. Hey, you've got stage one, 2 or 3 adrenal fatigue. And if you're running those those things that I was talking about before the May physical, yeah.
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Chris
Adrenal fatigue reset. The main gist of it, as I was saying, is the physical side of things. But you're also going to, of course, have a reason why you're running those things.
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Filly
Yeah. And, well, I mean, there is a whole module on free causes. So and we'll talk a little bit more about that in a second. Cool. Okay. Sorry. I want to chat about the day. I mean, like, scientifically speaking, do I know the exact day my body dropped into adrenal fatigue? No, but I remember the exact day that my body was just like, we can't anymore.
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Filly
And there was a lead up to it. So I like Brief Story, especially for those who have listened to a podcast. You probably heard it many times, but as a teenager I started showing up with, health issues. So a lot of hormone issues, PCOS, I wasn't diagnosed at the time with anxiety, but now looking back, I definitely say that as a teen, those anxious tendencies I had vessel vagal episodes.
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Filly
So that was when my system was under stress. I would faint and fit and pay myself, had a lot of dysfunctional patterns going on perfectionism, overachieving, trying to be the best, trying to get a pluses in everything that I did. And that continued throughout university and into, my PhD studies, especially with the PhD, a lot of imposter syndrome stuff came up because I was so young doing it.
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Filly
And I'm like, do I even deserve being here? I have to try even harder to prove that I'm good enough to to be here doing this thing and teaching other people and lecturing and tutoring. So there are a lot of health issues showing up around that time. But the day that my system, I feel like really collapsed was we were living in Sydney, so this was pre children and Chris had a business called Active Aussies.
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Filly
So it was his first personal training business. I was a nice I actually really like.
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Chris
Second.
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Filly
Second. Okay sorry not first personal training. What was your first.
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Chris
Oh personal training.
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Filly
Courses and then attending to active all these anyway so that's.
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Chris
A good one.
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Filly
So Chris, you start a lot of boot camps at a park nearby. And I was probably your more studious student. I think I would be there every day getting up at 5 a.m.. Driving through the traffic in Sydney, although I don't think there was traffic that early. We beat the traffic and then some days I would go back for the evening session.
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Filly
So I was working out a lot, and back then I was pretty fit. And I mean, there were women and men there. Like I was doing more push ups and pull ups and running faster than even some of the men at boot camp. And so I was feeling good. I mean, looking physically, I was, I thought I was feeling good, but now looking back, I'm like, there are a lot of signs, really, that your body was very much trying to talk to you.
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Filly
And I had all the the anxiety and the perfectionism patterns all happening in the surface two, which was feeding the overtraining because I'm like, well, if I am, I've got to prove that I'm strong and capable and good enough and worthy and worthwhile and awesome. So I'm going to try extra hard. And also, there was an element to where I felt like I needed.
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Filly
Chris never asked me to show up that much, but it was my own internal pressure that I needed to be there so I could feel the spots in boot camp. So it looks like the business was thriving, especially at the start when, you know, he was building the business. And so initially I noticed my energy levels dropping, like I would get up at five at go do the boot camp session.
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Filly
I come home and then I'd go back to bed. I was not getting energised by exercise anymore and I literally needed to go home and nap, get up, study, work and then I need another nap in the afternoon. I thought that was normal, because I didn't know anything any different. But again, looking back, it was major signs that my body was saying no.
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Filly
And then I remember we were doing a two kilometre run test. Do you remember when we used to do the fitness testing? And part of it was run two kilometres and see how fast you can go, and can you beat your score from previous time? And previous to that I found it really easy. Like I could run two kilometres.
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Filly
You know, I could even put some sprints into it, could push myself. But this morning that I turned up my body like I was moving my body. I was running, but my body felt like led. My muscles were burning. It felt like I was trying to run through blue tack. I remember it feel like it was the weirdest experience because I'd never experienced that before.
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Filly
Previously, when I wanted to move my body, I could move my body and it just felt playful. Yeah, it was still challenging, but it was definitely a very strong sign that my body had dropped into adrenal fatigue. And later on, we found out that I had actually fallen pregnant and I'd had a miscarriage. So I, I'm trying to remember the timeline, but I think I was still carrying the baby when this happened.
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Filly
So it was early on in conception. I had a miscarriage at eight weeks, but we didn't find out until we had the 12 week scan, which is probably another podcast episode, because that was really sad. And and so here's the thing. My body then didn't bounce back. So when I found out that I was pregnant, I'm like, oh, that must be why my body is feeling like this.
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Filly
But then when I had the miscarriage, I still could not perform the way that my body was performing. I was still needing to nap during the day. I was still pushing myself like I was still getting up at 5 a.m. and, like working on my body for 12 hours a day. But my body did not bounce back.
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Filly
So it continued feeling like Lyn essentially, and I didn't listen. And then we fell pregnant. Again, maybe about three months or six months later, I can't remember. It was pretty shortly after the miscarriage, and this time we had our first baby puppy and things got worse. It was quite a traumatic birth. There was a lot of trauma physically and mentally during that and also post that.
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Filly
And just every month I accumulated more and more symptoms. And then when we had our second baby, all my symptoms really flared up again. And so this is how many years with this baby now, like 4 or 5 years, five years of having a lot of chronic health issues, not really knowing what's going on. Definitely. That was adrenal fatigue happening.
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Filly
And after our second baby, I came across functional medicine, and by then I was already a clinical nutritionist. So I was able to order lab tests. But I'm like, I don't want to just trust the computer generation spew out of this is what the test is saying. I want to work with someone who is an expert in functional medicine.
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Filly
Say that when I run my own labs, I know exactly how to read the lab tests, and I also know how to help other people with their lab tests. And they're not just spending thousands of dollars on a lab test that their practitioner might be misreading. So I ended up working with Doctor Daniel Caliche, in a three year deep dive, mentorship all around functional medicine.
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Filly
And this really helped me to set up, he taught me how to run, like, what tests are best, how to analyse the tests and how to treat the body systems over this period.
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Chris
He's a very smart guy. Paul, check. A lot of people might know who Paul check is. Paul. Check. Worked a lot with Doctor Daniel. Caliche as.
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Filly
Well. Yeah. He's pretty well known in the functional medicine space. We actually did a podcast episode with him that would have been one of our earlier podcast episodes. Maybe episode ten. Don't quote me on that, though. But you can go back to like, the aliens and you'll find me interviewing Doctor Caliche. So anyway, part of it, he loved you.
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Chris
He said you got his protocols. So. So when someone wants to work with doctor cows but they can't because he's in America and he only works with certain amount of people getting as good as it gets.
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Filly
He also doesn't work with a lot of clients now because he's kind of semi-retired, so he mostly trains practitioners. But yeah, he's like, come work with me. But anyway, during the mentorship, we started off with looking at adrenals. So, you know, we're working through all of the body systems over the years. Adrenals are the first. So I was like, guinea pig number one.
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Filly
I'm like, well, rather than testing my clients, first let's use me as the guinea pig. So I was super excited because I'd been I had known about Doctor Kelly's probably a year or two earlier, but I was really just waiting for the right time to really study functional medicine. So I did my adrenal test, got my results back a couple of weeks later, opened it up, and I was shocked.
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Filly
I'm reading my results and I'm like, I don't have adrenal fatigue, but I'm ticking all the boxes. And I was kind of confused and I'm like, oh, well, maybe that's a good thing. It's always good when something's working. But then I took the results to Doctor Kelly. So we had a session and he looked over my lab test results and he said, oh, you're actually in stage two.
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Filly
Adrenal fatigue. And I was like, oh, but the report that the computer generated and said I wasn't. But then he showed me the nuances in the intricacies of reading the lab test to then determine that I was in stage two, adrenal fatigue. So essentially, for me, stage stage one would be your DHEA levels are low, cortisol levels are high.
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Filly
Stage two is DHEA levels. A low cortisol is now in the green range dropping. And then stage three later stages is your cortisol levels are really low. So I was confused because my cortisol so levels are in the green range. So I'm like oh that's fine. And my DHEA levels are in the green range. So in my head I was like oh that's fine.
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Filly
But from a functional perspective my DHEA levels were too low. And this is a really common, misinterpretation that I seen other practitioners. And by this, if we have a client who's already done an adrenal test, I've lost, I've lost count the amount of clients that have shown me their past adrenal results and said, oh my practitioner. We didn't work on that because they said it was fine.
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Filly
And then I'll look at it in the trained eyes of working in like the studying functional medicine for three years, not just getting access to labs, but actually knowing it. And I'm like, you're in stage two, adrenal fatigue. Like three years ago, you could have been working on that. So I'm in a little pinch to the course.
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Filly
I'm actually going to teach you how to analyse adrenal lab test results, which is great. So then you're learning, you know, how to read your own lab test results. And also if you're a natural path nutritionist, a practitioner that, has access to lab tests, you'll also benefit from working through our course. If you haven't been functionally functional medicine trained.
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Filly
Anyway, get off my house about that. That, cut. What's the word passionate about that? That functional medicine. So many practitioners say run labs, but they're not trained in functional medicine.
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Chris
Yeah. And we're quite proud of of you feel and we're quite proud of, of what we do with the adrenal fatigue reset, like this, this protocol, this program is, it really is simple. When you, when you lay it all out and when you put it all together, it's, it's a straightforward, simple process. But, you got to have the steps.
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Chris
You got to have the, the, the process. And so we just dumbed it right down. Dumbed it. Right. Not dumbed it, but but but we've broken it right down so that you can understand it and you can get it. And we put it all there for you to be able to understand and know it.
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Filly
Yeah. Simplified.
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Chris
It simplified. That's a better way.
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Filly
I really feel like when I was working with Doctor Kalish, one thing that I really valued so, so smart, like he's so smart, but the way that he trained me as a practitioner was the way he talked to me in the words and the language that he would use with the client. So it's like, who understand all the science and how everything is connected.
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Filly
But when we're communicating with people who are trying to heal, they need to understand it as well. And so that's why I felt really confident creating this, adrenal fatigue reset course. That isn't like there is no one on one support. There is team support where if you have questions, you can ask questions underneath the lessons. But I've created it in such a systemic, systematic, simplified way that it would be really difficult to get stuck.
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Filly
You know, what you need to do and you have the roadmap. So just coming back to my story because something interesting too, that around when I discovered I had adrenal fatigue was my system collapsed. So, you know, it was talking about my I was wasn't doing well, a lot of health issues, but I was still pushing on, like, I was still, like, still gotta make some money and still go to run this business and still got to be the mom is do what I do all the other things.
00;28;05;09 - 00;28;38;24
Filly
And so I was still running like go, go, go patterns. Even though my body was screaming at me, I was pushing myself. But the moment that like literally when I got off the call with Doctor Coalition, he said, you're in stage two. Adrenal fatigue. My system just collapsed. And like the way that I see this is that my nervous system had been running fight, flight over, doing, pushing on for so long that I actually had a period where I dropped down into dorsal vagal, which is shut down even I would say I was depressed for a few weeks.
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Filly
I had been living in sympathetic survival state for so long, and while it didn't feel great, it was kind of like it didn't feel great this collapse, but it was almost like the lab test results gave me the permission that I needed to show my body to just exhale and stop and try and heal. So it was almost like my symptoms had been validated through the lab test, that there was something real going on in my body and that also, if I didn't stop, it would get worse.
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Filly
And so I, I also felt safe enough to stop fighting, to stop pushing and to give myself permission to rest. And then I very shortly came out of that dorsal vagal shut down and got to work to heal my adrenals. And I've had other clients report the same thing when they get their adrenal test results back. They're like, yeah.
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Filly
I was like, I was excited. I was happy to see that there was something that I could work on. But Filly, for the next two weeks, I, I was in a funk. And I mean this from a neuroscience perspective, nervous system perspective. It's a common, common thing to happen, especially if you have been running, or you've experienced being gaslit by other providers where it's just like all your tests are fine, just stop stressing, just get more sleep.
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Filly
It's like, no, no, no, there's something going on. Sorry. What did healing. Oh, did you want to share anything about your experience of adrenal fatigue? I, I yeah.
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Chris
Okay. Mine came.
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Filly
Because I remember it'll.
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Chris
Far out. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Correct me if I'm wrong about how I was feeling. I, yeah, this. I think this describes me as a person. Once, once I've moved through it and moved on, I just don't hold any sort of energy and memory. I fill my head with other things and my emotions with other stuff.
00;30;47;16 - 00;31;15;24
Chris
Okay. So adrenal fatigue came at a time where I didn't have time for this. I have time for this sort of diagnosis. I have I was way too busy, way too stretched. I just had a, a, significant emotional event where a staff member had had, I left and, and had an upheaval within our business, our relationship.
00;31;15;24 - 00;31;19;24
Chris
I didn't have time for this sort of thing to happen.
00;31;19;27 - 00;31;23;22
Filly
You were going to work at 5 a.m. and coming back at 10 p.m.. Exactly.
00;31;23;22 - 00;31;31;00
Chris
Yeah. I wouldn't say it was, you know, part of the role that I was in wasn't always in the doing of the doing of the things.
00;31;31;05 - 00;31;32;13
Filly
Sometimes I go.
00;31;32;15 - 00;31;33;16
Chris
And I'm talking to people.
00;31;33;18 - 00;31;34;18
Filly
Playing Xbox.
00;31;34;18 - 00;32;12;08
Chris
Yeah. Part of my job was like socialising and talking and supporting and and all that sort of stuff. But it was easier for me to stay and then come back, blah, blah, blah. I didn't have time for this. So this happened then, and I actually that was when I had my first coaching experience, life coaching, with a good couple of good mentors and friends of mine, the marks, Mark Buckley, Mark Luxon, and the other guys in FMA look them up.
00;32;12;10 - 00;32;34;29
Chris
Anyway, I was going through a personal development and personal growth experience and yeah, that's I couldn't just change one thing. It was very clear to me this wasn't about just take the supplements, do that, do the stuff. For me, it was a very much, Chris, your you need to you need to sort out your life type deal, you know?
00;32;35;02 - 00;32;58;14
Filly
Yeah. Like, I remember some key symptoms was we would be driving for like, 20 minutes, and you'd need to pull over because you were nodding off. And I think because you were having so many energy drinks throughout the week on Sunday, on Sunday, when you weren't working, you would just have massive withdrawals.
00;32;58;16 - 00;32;59;12
Chris
I was so tired.
00;32;59;12 - 00;33;14;24
Filly
You didn't connect that. Actually, I don't think we connected that for a while. It's just like, oh, and I'm like, this is a pattern. Why every Sunday are you you have these, like, migraines and kind of almost like this. You're in bed all day. It's like,
00;33;14;26 - 00;33;18;08
Chris
Living off caffeine. And, I.
00;33;18;10 - 00;33;22;00
Filly
Feel definitely a lot of, like, inflammation and injuries.
00;33;22;02 - 00;33;58;16
Chris
Yeah. And but, yeah, then when I hit an age and I hit, a time in the life I just couldn't keep. What got me here wasn't going to get me there. Type, type experience. And then I had an existential crisis. Like, if I couldn't do the things and who I was, I, who I was, I who was like, hey, like who I was, I yeah, who even was I, and I received a lot of validation, external validation and what I thought was approval.
00;33;58;19 - 00;34;24;27
Chris
And so if I couldn't do the things that got me the stuff, then I wouldn't be the person that people would need me to be, and therefore, I wouldn't be loved or admired or respected. And, so I had to work through all of that. And this was all happening all about the same sort of time. So my experience with recovering from adrenal fatigue wasn't just as simple as, as taking the boxes, doing the things and, and the.
00;34;24;29 - 00;34;35;09
Filly
Taking this that was on because you were kind of terrible at that. You come home and like, did you take your supplements like, oh crap. No. Three dosages of all the things and like, whack it in your mouth before bed.
00;34;35;11 - 00;34;48;01
Chris
I actually, my clients and, and people at the gym were, were actually really, really supportive in that, like they would they would be like, have you taken your supplements? I'm like, oh, no, thank you.
00;34;48;03 - 00;34;48;17
Filly
I didn't know.
00;34;48;17 - 00;35;04;15
Chris
That. Or I'd be in the middle of a conversation and one of one of them would go, hey, just sorry to interrupt. But you should take your supplements because they're sitting like, right there on the desk. I'm like, oh, yes. Totally. Yeah. So that was really fun.
00;35;04;15 - 00;35;30;08
Filly
Yeah. Cool. Awesome. Yeah. In terms of, for me, healing for my adrenal fatigue, I feel like before I got the lab test, I'd already dialled in lifestyle like I was already eating clean and eating to support the adrenals, and, I stole the toxins from at home and I dialled in better sleep. And I definitely reduced and dropped down the exercise because that was killing my body.
00;35;30;10 - 00;35;52;18
Filly
But I then or now, or also back then had lab results so I could be really targeted with the supplements that, were going to support my adrenals. It's kind of funny because I studied nutritional medicine for three years, and I remember during that time or so, many students were just like, popping pills. They're like, oh, I learned that this could help with fatigue.
00;35;52;18 - 00;36;22;06
Filly
And I learned that this could help with anxiety. And he's like, oh, Filly, you've got heartburn. You should try this. And I actually I don't think I took any supplements during my training in clinical nutrition because it got so confusing that it's like you're just treating the symptom, not the system. And so I was so excited to get my first lab test because then I'm like, yeah, I'm like dedicated to taking supplements that are going to help me if I need it.
00;36;22;08 - 00;36;47;26
Filly
And so I remember when I did start taking my supplements, because that was kind of the only thing I added in three months in, I remember not really feeling much different. And usually like if I'm working, if we're working with a client, one on one and they're starting to work on root causes, usually within 3 to 4 weeks, the supplements are kicking in for, to support the adrenals and it's like, oh, they'll start feeling shifts and start feeling better.
00;36;47;28 - 00;37;06;02
Filly
And I teach all of this in the course in terms of when to, when, when to know when things will start shifting, based on thousands of people that we've worked with. And so I remember going to Doctor Caliche and I'm like, I don't know, like, maybe I'm taking the wrong things. Is there anything else that you would recommend me taking?
00;37;06;04 - 00;37;24;07
Filly
And he just asked me a little bit about how I was being and living and these were huge glands. He's like, well, if you're running around like a chick without her head on the supplements, aren't you not going to be able to outsmart the root cause? And I was like, oh, okay.
00;37;24;13 - 00;37;34;25
Chris
That's a good one. Come out, come out. Suck the root. Cause, yeah, that's a there's another one. You can't exercise a crappy diet. Yeah. Because it's the same sort of thing.
00;37;34;25 - 00;37;59;07
Filly
Yeah. And so that was good because it was a slap in the face that I needed. It's just like I. Okay, okay. But it still took me probably like a couple of years to really dive deep into the deep metaphysical root causes in terms of rewiring deep beliefs I had about myself and my patterns in my programs. But that that slap in the face was the initial I.
00;37;59;12 - 00;38;19;18
Filly
I have to go deeper. I think just back then I didn't know how. So Doctor Kyla, she was kind of like just meditate for two hours and I'm like, I've got like two little babies. You might be able to meditate because you don't have you have old kids. So he didn't really go into like deep root cause anyway.
00;38;19;20 - 00;38;20;01
Filly
But yeah.
00;38;20;02 - 00;38;27;17
Chris
But it highlighted a need for, for, you can't out suck the situation, right?
00;38;27;17 - 00;38;28;07
Filly
Yeah.
00;38;28;09 - 00;38;48;05
Chris
So, so this is the, his strategy for it is where we, we were that's where we went on our next leg of our journey. It's like all right, well, so we got the functional side of things and yeah that's great. And then what about the metaphysical side. So anyway I'll talk to you guys about that so much.
00;38;48;08 - 00;39;14;17
Filly
Okay. Sorry if you're interested. I feel like wow wow, wow. I'm really resonating with a lot of these experiences and these symptoms. And I'm kind of curious about this adrenal fatigue reset, cause this is what I. This is what it can do for you. Sorry. It's broken up into five modules. And as part of it. Yeah, yeah.
00;39;14;17 - 00;39;45;17
Filly
So the the course also includes an adreno cortex stress profile. Which is great. It's not additional cost. It's all included in the cost. And so the moment that you sign up, we will send you out a lab test or get it sent to you via the, lab company that we work with. And then, so you're getting your adrenals tested via saliva so you can test over the course of the day to see where your cortisol levels are and your DHEA levels are at.
00;39;45;19 - 00;40;14;14
Filly
And then inside the course, like the first module, teaching you the ins and outs of adrenal fatigue. So how to know, like what it is, how it works, signs and symptoms that show up. Kind of the science around why you feel the way that you feel and that it's not all in your head. Then module two takes you through how to get ready for the test, how to collect your samples effectively and reliably, and also how to analyse your results.
00;40;14;17 - 00;40;38;00
Filly
So how to know if your adrenal results are normal, how to know if you're in stage one, two, three. How to know if you're just really stressed out but you're not in adrenal fatigue, and also how to know sometimes some funky things happen where I probably won't go into it. It's only in the course. But basically, I take you through different weird little things that can happen with the adrenal.
00;40;38;00 - 00;41;07;07
Filly
So you know how to determine if you're adrenal fatigue, if you're in adrenal fatigue, and what stage of adrenal fatigue hearing. Now, just a little caveat on that, because we have had some questions come through. They're like, well, what if I don't have adrenal fatigue. Like if I just wasted my money? I would say absolutely not. So again, if I think about one on one clients that we work with and I suspect their adrenals are out because of all the symptoms and all the stress they've had in their life, or test the adrenals.
00;41;07;09 - 00;41;35;23
Filly
If your adrenal results come back, fine, that's great. Like we want to rule it out. We want to rule it in or out. So it's still going to be valuable having that data. And if you don't have adrenal fatigue, you still get value in all the other modules minus the supplement protocol one. But there's going we're going to give you guidance around root causes, where to go for deeper healing.
00;41;35;25 - 00;41;58;12
Filly
Yeah. And I'll talk about those in a bit more. And also, yeah, so if you don't have adrenal fatigue again like it rules it out. So it's like great. It saves you months and months and months of potentially worrying about if it's your adrenals or spending a lot of money on just random supplements to support your adrenals, which is what a lot of people do now.
00;41;58;12 - 00;42;24;20
Filly
Again, 95% of our burnt out clients have adrenal fatigue, so highly likely you will too. If you resonate with the adrenal fatigue reset. And then module three will take you through how to create supplement protocols based on your unique lab test results. And you also get access to our store. So inside the course there'll be our store where you can purchase practitioner grade supplements.
00;42;24;20 - 00;42;46;14
Filly
And these are the exact supplements that we give out one on one clients for great results. We know that they work. And also, I forgot to mention you do have the opportunity of retesting and purchasing another, Adreno cortex test kit inside the course in case you want to retest your adrenals. Module four we going to root causes.
00;42;46;14 - 00;43;08;18
Filly
So most this module is more around identification. So getting really clear based on our assessment that we've put together around all the root causes that cause someone to go into adrenal fatigue. So you'll get yours mapped out for you. Within this course, we don't have this scope to take you through how to heal the root causes.
00;43;08;20 - 00;43;27;04
Filly
We do that inside our ending body burn out method program. But I do encourage you in the course to start off with some quick wins. So what are some things that you know that you can change? And we take you through a well-formed outcome framework to help you actually achieve the thing that you want to change.
00;43;27;07 - 00;43;48;29
Filly
And you also get a beautiful rewire, adrenal fatigue, meditation track that really works at a subconscious level to help send signals of safety to your brain and your adrenals so that they're starting to function better. So that's awesome. You can use that, like literally every day. And then the last module is where to now for Deeper Healing.
00;43;48;29 - 00;44;11;26
Filly
And I wanted to add that one in because sometimes now if you follow three modules 1 to 4 and you're doing great, you get the results that you want. Like everything is great. It's like awesome. You probably don't need module five. You could just look at it for interest sake. But if you're someone who it's like, okay, I feel like things have shifted a bit.
00;44;11;26 - 00;44;33;21
Filly
I've still got some symptoms. Or I still got some patterns that I'm running that I can see that if I don't solve this, then I'm going to lead into adrenal fatigue again. Or. I know I feel like I'm not really responding to the protocol the way that I should be. This module again, will map out where you need to go, like what are the missing pieces?
00;44;33;21 - 00;45;03;13
Filly
And this will look at both body other body systems that might be out of balance as well as deeper metaphysical healing. So you've got a road map and yeah, kind of like a compass of where to go next. So that is the adrenal fatigue reset core. If you have any questions about it, feel free to shoot us a message at a comment below, the podcast or the YouTube video that you're watching.
00;45;03;16 - 00;45;34;19
Filly
Yeah. It's it's I'm really proud of it. It's great. I worked out that it's like total value would be around $1,500, but you get it for a fraction of the cost. It's also a very cost friendly way of getting into functional medicine work. Without, I guess, the additional cost of working 101. So if you're on a tight budget, this is a beautiful way to kickstart your healing journey at a functional medicine level.
00;45;34;22 - 00;45;35;22
Chris
Totes.
00;45;35;24 - 00;45;36;28
Filly
00;45;37;00 - 00;45;38;29
Chris
All right, guys, I think that wraps it up. Phil.
00;45;38;29 - 00;45;39;25
Filly
Yeah, awesome.
00;45;39;25 - 00;45;47;07
Chris
My son. All right, have the best day ever and we'll chat to you next time.
00;45;47;09 - 00;45;57;12
Filly
Thank you so much for listening. We so appreciate you. If you'd like to give us extra smiles, drop us a review and spread the love by sharing this episode.
00;45;57;14 - 00;46;30;05
Chris
You can also write your own state of burnout and the root cause contributors by taking our Ending Body Burnout assessment on our website. And if you're interested in learning about our group or one on one ending body burnout programs, shoot us a DM via Instagram or Facebook. Have the best day ever.
00;46;30;07 - 00;46;30;16
Chris
For.
