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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending body Burnout show. We are your host, Chris and Filly, co-founders of a multi winning functional medicine practice serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
Well, business, addictive doing, people pleasing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
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Filly
So get ready to heal your body, get your spark back deeply, connect with yourself, and step into the life of your dreams.
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Chris
Let's dive in.
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Filly
Hello or welcome to the podcast! Today I'm actually repurposing an Instagram Live that I had with the wonderful Melissa marsden. About a month or so ago on her Instagram profile. It was linked into ours as well. But, we we caught up to have a conversation around, the retreat that she is putting on, in October. So just in a few weeks and also to talk about her experience Inside out and body burn out method and like essentially how we're both now helping others, heal from body burn out in different ways.
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Filly
So Melissa is a past client of ours. She worked through our ending body burn out method in such a beautiful, robust, wholehearted way. She got great results. She is transformed and she is a new person. As you will hear her talk about today. In today's episode, she did share her her journey through the ending body burn out method back in March this year.
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Filly
So if you scroll back to episode 1 or 2, if you want to listen to her whole healing story and everything, or the steps that she went through to heal from chronic gut issues bloating, constipation, weight gain, anxiety, pushing through people pleasing patterns. That's a great episode to listen back to in today's conversation. She does touch on her journey that, she went on inside the body burnout method, and I talk a bit about about the program and how we help people and their body burn out.
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Filly
But we also talk about her beautiful retreat that she's putting on in October. So just a I think it's like a couple of weeks away, 2 or 3 weeks away. By the time that this podcast episode is published, I should have got the exact dates. But they'll definitely be in the show notes. If you scroll down, I'll pop the dates there for her retreat.
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Filly
So Melissa is a business coach? She is a workplace strategist and author and a podcaster, and she really helps to guide corporate and government teams and business owners, design workplaces that align with their values and enhance human potential. So she's been doing that for many, many, many, many years and more recently, specially born from her own healing and transformation journey.
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Filly
She's really blending in, all the business strategy, that she is very good at and really helping women entrepreneurs to build businesses that reflect their values and their lifestyle without burning out. So she blends in strategy with heart and innovation and intuition, with ambition, and helping them to really become in alignment with self and her retreat, exhale, is designed for women in business to come along and get clear with, where they're going in their business, what they value and get into alignment on that side.
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Filly
But their retreat also blends in beautiful holistic modalities like sound healing and, breathwork and yoga and nutritious adrenal diet approved food, to really create a beautiful space for transformation in the woman's life, in both business and in herself. Now I am actually attending Nell's Retreat because I just loved sharing her her healing journey, and I loved witnessing her transformation.
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Filly
And I knew that this retreat that she's putting on is an overflow of all the healing that she has done, and she is someone that just has so much grace and so much class and is super good at what she does. So if you would like to join me on the exhale retreat, please come along. It will be great.
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Filly
I'm going as a participant, so I'm actually going to get loved up by Mel and the other facilitators at the retreat, which I'm so excited about. Yeah. And if if this resonates with you, check out Mel's Retreat is going to be awesome. All right, let's dive in.
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Mel
Your intuition in business can be really, really difficult, but it is even harder when your body is not functioning optimally. And I know these personally because I have been through my own experience of body burnout and what it did to my system. It made me have huge amounts of brain fog, my head got issues, and all of these started to make it really difficult for me to trust my own instincts and my own intuition.
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Mel
Now, to help us decipher all of these, I have asked the beautiful Sally Villette for increased in Filly to join me tonight, because she was the wonderful magician that helped me get my body back on track so that I could start tuning back into my own body, and how that then was making me make helping me make decisions in my business.
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Mel
Because trusting your intuition is a huge part of actually getting through business in one piece and making the decisions that are actually aligned with what you want. Because when you do not know how to trust yourself, you can't back yourself, you can't stay the course. You're constantly then outsourcing and asking other people's opinions and asking for them to tell you what the next step is.
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Mel
Now, nobody else can tell you what it is that you need to be doing in your business. Only you can. So the best way to do that is to learn how to reconnect with yourself and tune back into your intuition. Now I'm going to get Billy to come in and join us. She's just sitting here. So, Filly, do you want to just jump on in and come and join us here?
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Mel
And we're going to have a bit of a chat and talk about some of the things. Now, Filly is also one of our guests to join us at the retreat. And I want to have a chat with her about what she why she decided to come and join us. And I also want to chat about all the wonderful work that she does and how she personally helped me recover from my own body fat out.
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Mel
So welcome Filly, thanks for joining and.
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Filly
No thank you. I'm very excited.
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Mel
Yeah. So good to have you here. Thank you. But why don't you first give us a little bit of an overview of what it is that you do of giving people a little bit of an overview about how you help me, but you're going to be the best person to explain what it is that you do.
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Filly
Yeah. Also. And so I am a functional medicine practitioner, coach, trauma therapist. And I'm very passionate about ending body burnout in busy people with energy moving that issues. So we work with that clients holistically to not just do lab testing on their body systems, which is a really important piece of the healing journey. But also looking at why.
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Filly
So why did the body systems been out in the first place? What patterns are you running? What beliefs do you have hidden in the unconscious mind? What baggage from the past do you need to let go so you can release the patterns and so that your body can heal?
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Mel
Yeah. Pretty good summary. And I talked a lot of those boxes off in my journey with you guys and have got back to this thriving physician now. Sorry. I'm so very, very grateful for everything that you guys have done to help me. So thank you. Because I think we know and we don't, you know, I have a theory.
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Mel
We get to our 40s, and all of a sudden our body is just screaming at us because we've been consistently ignoring it. Oh, we've been quieting you down or suppressing it in other ways, or we're masking it with other things. And I think that this then it all kind of bubbles up to the surface and it's like, okay, now you actually have to address all of this stuff.
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Filly
Yeah, 100%. And it does happen around like like 3040 and be on Mark if you haven't listened. Yeah, because it's exhausting running burnout patterns. It's kind of like at some point he's just like physically emotionally spiritually can't do it anymore.
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Mel
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. And what I really loved about working through the program with you guys was that, yes, you helped with the supplements and you kind of look at all of the physical symptoms, which are great, but then you take us on a bit of a deeper journey. And, you know, when I came in and did the program with you guys, you know, you and I had this conversation like I've done all the purpose work, I've done all the values work.
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Mel
But the bit that I hadn't done was the belief structures. And when I actually unpicks that some of the things that I found are quite surprising. And that was then what actually helped me to get to this point where I am now is because those beliefs were the reason that I was ending up in burnout. Like, I kind of realigned my life.
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Mel
I did that sort of ten years ago and did the purpose and values pace gone right? I know who I am, I know what it stands for and all these things, but I carried all of this other baggage around these belief systems that were making me do these things and make these choices that were actually driving me to the ground.
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Mel
And so having the ability to kind of step back and look at all of that was pretty, pretty amazing.
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Filly
Yeah. And it's huge because it's all hidden, he said. Surprising. So I'm assuming there was some hidden things that cycle that I can't believe, but that's there. But it's hidden in the unconscious mind. But essentially, the unconscious mind is what is controlling every thought, feeling, behavioural pattern that you have. So you can work on some strategies around like how you're living, which is really important to get clear on that.
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Filly
But is the baggage down below hasn't been, resolved? Let go of then. You're just living from a place of fear and from a place of danger, essentially where it's not safe to succeed.
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Mel
Yeah. And I think that was one of the things that I found. And I was really surprised about this. I sense of safety. I actually found that really difficult to kind of comprehend. I'm like, what do you mean I'm not safe? And it's is that deep seated in a body nervous system, lack of safety. And it's because we're constantly looking for threats.
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Mel
And if we're living in that state of fear that email's a threat and that call from the client to threat. And for me, one of the things was I'm a big people pleaser, very a recovering people pleaser, I should say. And that meant that every time someone was asking me for something, I had to say yes, because know was this scary, fearful thing and I couldn't actually articulate that.
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Mel
So I was always, and, you know, going towards the. Yes, because the safer for my system, that's what I felt. And so that was a constant burnout for me because I kept saying yes, I was just overextending myself all the time and was taking on more than I could handle. And I was saying yes to things that I didn't want to be doing.
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Mel
And when aligning with where I wanted to go and went lining me up, and that was a that was a big part of the kind of the, the tunnel that I went down.
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Filly
Yeah, yeah. I don't remember if you remember, but I'm sure you remember that when you where we were trying to really access safety inside your system, it's like go to a memory and you're like.
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Mel
I don't know.
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Filly
I can't think of a time I really felt safe. Yeah, yeah I do.
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Mel
I've got lots of them now. But yeah, it was really and because it is a difficult thing to kind of get your head around if you haven't thought about it before. And I think the other thing that I have experienced myself was that, you know, you talk about trauma and I went through the trauma therapy with you as well.
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Mel
And between that and the ability to do some other, sort of alternate my modalities of healing, what I did was I unlocked all of these expanses, spaciousness within my system. And, the so many conversations that you and I had through at the time that I worked with you was that I didn't understand how I could continue to run my business, how I could continue to show up in my family, how I could actually have all the things that I wanted without quitting my job or, you know, going and living under a rock or off grid somewhere and, you know, not having these pressures and external stresses all the time.
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Mel
And when I went through all of that trauma re patterning and dealt with these belief systems and experienced some of these alternative modalities of healing, it's like I unlocked all of this internal spaciousness that I had been looking for. There's nothing that happened or changed from the outside. I didn't, you know, I didn't quit my business. It's still running.
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Mel
You know, we made some tweaks and changes, but we didn't fully burnt to the ground. It's still operating at the same capacity, still producing. You still got. My kids are still making money. Like, it's still doing my things, but it doesn't feel heavy anymore. I feel like I have all this additional capacity to be able to service all the things that I need to do in my life, because I created that.
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Mel
Now I'm curious to know how many other of your clients kind of experienced similar things?
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Filly
So many. So many, like the model that you're talking about is slow. So you say you're in a pattern of like, oh man, I was in the pattern before. So it's like, well, I just got to do the things to make the money and make sure the kids are fed and like, I support my husband and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Filly
It's like, what even is flow? And it is it's a really foreign concept for so many people who have been running those doing patterns as a form of protection, like essentially. And so even the thought of how could I like flow is this spaciousness that you're talking about. It's like you're you feel safe to be. Yeah, it's safe to succeed.
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Filly
You're regulated. Yes. You feel like human beings. It stresses happen and you can get just regulated. But you know, you have the tools to be able to just bring a sense of safety back to self because you know who you are at the deepest level. And sorry, flowing is you're still doing what you want to do in order to achieve your goals, but you're being at the same time and you're having pleasure and you're having fun and you're being playful.
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Filly
That's like the magic secret source of flow. Yeah. And so many people, I if I think about our clients, most of them have come into the program running those, doing overdoing patterns, people pleasing, perfectionism, all or nothing, nothing fake thinking. And they've been forcing their way. Whether it's forcing their way to try and heal or forcing their business or forcing their, like family or whatever it is just forcing life.
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Filly
And yeah, it's coming from a deep fear itself. So when you resolve that, that's for you, then you're able to get into flow.
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Mel
Yeah. And it's such a more empowered state as well. I think that's the other thing that I really can reflect on is that I have this. You found ability to do so many things that, you know, I found really difficult before, like to be able to say no or to feel an experience that that pleasure state and to be able to make decisions in my business because it got to a point where, because my nervous system was so dysregulated, I wasn't being the person that I wanted to be.
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Mel
I was so out of alignment with the type of person I wanted to be, the type of things that I was trying to do that you know, that meant I wasn't showing up in the best possible capacity that I wanted to be. And all of those things really impacted so much around my business and my relationships, and it meant that I never then had the confidence in my own decision making.
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Mel
And so I started outsourcing it. I was asking all these people, what do you think? How should I do this? You know, and I just didn't trust my own instincts. But once I cleared all that noise away and I could get back in alignment and I could really tune in with, you know, why am I doing this? What am I trying to achieve here?
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Mel
What do I feel is right? What do I feel is wrong? That's when things started to shift again, and I started to take back all of this power, because I could go know this is how I want to do this, and this is what I expect, and this is how this needs to happen. And no, I'm not interested in that.
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Mel
And yes, absolutely. That's I'm all in on that one. And so I think that was this really aligning of my nervous system to re regulate it, to then be able to feel like I was in that compassionate and empathetic zone, but be able to really hold those boundaries really quite firmly.
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Filly
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You said it perfectly. Not not lot. It just it's like I don't need external validation anymore.
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Mel
No, that's exactly it. I was constantly seeking external validation and, you know, as, a business owner and, you know, a high performing person, I was out there trying to win the awards and do all these things because I wanted the gold star. I wanted the pat on the back from the client. I wanted my team to love me.
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Mel
And, you know, I wanted everyone to tell me how great I was doing because I wasn't giving that to myself. And, you know, that's what is still nice, that stuff. But I don't need it anymore. Like, I can I can give that to myself now, which is pretty cool. Yeah.
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Filly
And then it opens up the channels to your intuition is what you were talking about, where it's like, I know like I know when to say yes and when to say no. And decision making is a big one where people can get stuck as well, where if you don't trust yourself, if you don't even know how to connect to yourself, it's like decisions are so hard to make, so you end up outsourcing it.
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Filly
I see that in like some business groups that I'm in, now, I'm sure there's a bunch of people that have done work and there's a lot of people where it's like every single little decision they have to make, you know, they're putting you in a Facebook group and then they're like confused by all the comments and they're like, I don't know what to do anymore.
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Filly
So yeah, you definitely become a powerful woman when you connect to your intuition.
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Mel
Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's the thing that's really helped me. And, you know, now I'm teaching nervous system regulation in the work that I do. And I'm supporting clients for these. So like I've got I've really become the model student, which I'm absolutely loving all of this because it's something that I say absolutely needs to be talked about.
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Mel
And you just nailed it. Then, you know, the fact that there are so many women who are out there running their businesses, but, outsourcing all of that decision making, and it's because they don't either have the clarity that I need in their business. They don't have that sense of alignment. They don't know where they're going, or they just purely have no sense of trust or instinct around what's right and wrong for them.
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Mel
And that's really sad, because it means that they're never going to be really fulfilled in their business. They constantly going to be doing something that someone else told them they should be doing, rather than actually what they want to be doing. And that's not going to lead to a very fulfilling business. It might be taking all the boxes it might be making on the money, might be growing and doing all that stuff that you still going to feel dead inside because that business just doesn't want you up.
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Mel
And what's the point if it doesn't like that one thing? So it makes me really sad. And that's exactly why, you know, I've created exhale because this retreat was the retreat that I was looking for. There wasn't there wasn't a space that supported me. Like I had done lots of different business groups like you, and a lot of them were very male dominated.
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Mel
And so therefore, the type of experiences we had were very different than not very much the feminine and not very much in that flow state. They certainly weren't in that wellness space. But I also didn't want to go and spend, you know, a weekend purely just doing wellness type activities that I wanted to be able to blend the two together.
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Mel
I wanted to be able to make this weekend feel purposeful, but at two different levels, one for my nervous system regulation. And so that's why we've got the breathwork and the sound healing and the meditation and the yoga and the really deep women's wellness conversations that we're going to be having. But we've also then got a beautiful community of ambitious business women who are driven, but they need those tools to help regulate their nervous system to, you know, manage that stress level, but then to also have those conversations with other women who get it and to share what's working for them and where they're challenged, and to get really clear so that when they leave
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Mel
this retreat, they are laser focussed on what it is they want that whole sense of alignment. There's next steps they're going to be taking, and they have a set of tools now that they can step back out into the world with. And having had all of these experiences they've unlocked to this capacity because these modalities, you know, what helped me is a shifted all of this stagnant stuckness that was sitting in my body and helped open out and created this capacity so that that's kind of why I created these are training I'm getting start turning that.
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Unknown
Can you now? Yeah, I know.
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Mel
Let's connect this weekend.
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Filly
Yeah, yeah. No, I'm so excited. I'm so excited. When I mean part of our program and you would know there's a section called Desire State, which is like, get clear on what you want. That's all the values and stuff that you're talking about. And there's a module on Dream Outcome, which I'm always like adding to and editing and amending depending on the goals that I have.
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Filly
But one goal I had was I just it wasn't even a goal, it was just a want, a desire. I think I like I feel like I want more retreats in my life. And because previous to that, I was going to a lot of kind of like business conferences. And they were great, but I just, I left kind of feeling like, scared, be like, sucked dry.
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Mel
Yeah. In a way that they are uplifting, but they're exhausting at the same time. Yeah, yeah. Be kind of that.
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Filly
Yeah. Exactly. So like, inspired from, like a logical, rational mind idea point of view. But I just felt, Yeah. Just tired. I was kind of tired. And this is. And the set up for those two, it's usually like sitting at a table for multiple days, and you're not moving your body and you're not having that, like, spaciousness to even, like integrate the ideas that you're receiving or thinking about.
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Mel
So.
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Filly
Anyway, so that was happening. And then I'm like, yeah, okay. Like I have this desire to have more retreats in my life, but I didn't.
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Mel
Know what that looked like.
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Filly
And then I think the next day I got an email from you about yours, which I knew that you put it on, but it was always just like, this is the universe talking to me. So I just said yes immediately.
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Mel
I am so glad that you did. And and I love that reflection that you've had, because I know exactly what you mean. You go, you sit in these windowless rooms for 2 or 3 days at a time. You're getting absolutely pummelled with ideas, and it's just no space to kind of, you know, integrate it, like you said. And you probably got dinners and all these other things that are kind of, you know, top and tiling it where.
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Filly
You really like unhealthy food too. So you feeling like blocked up.
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Mel
Yeah. They're really heavy. There's no.
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Filly
No chaos and things.
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Mel
But yeah. And sorry. And that's it. And I wanted to create something that would kind of give people a little peek into some of these alternative modalities. So, you know, I'm assuming that a lot of the women that are going to be coming to this retreat, given the audience that I have and the people that I connect to, I probably not going to have done breathwork before.
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Mel
They may not have had an experience with sound healing. They've probably done yoga, they may have done a little bit of meditation and look, to be honest, 12 months ago, if you ask me to sit down and meditate for two minutes, I laughed at you and I couldn't do it. I could not do it. No. Now I've done my meditation practitioner training.
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Mel
I do guided meditations. I try and meditate at least 4 to 5 times a week. You know, it's it's become such an inherent part of my own healing journey now. And I just wanted to give women who potentially haven't had access to these things just a tiny little taste and say, yeah, this is what's on offer here. This is what it can do.
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Mel
If you look at the the difference is going to make into your business, because I know for myself, having been this really stressed out, highly strung, burnt out woman trying to run this business, that I need more tools to help support my nervous system. And when you can stay in that regulated state and increase that window of tolerance.
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Mel
So no longer getting into that fight or flight or down into that free zone, but really expand that middle section, you have so much more capacity to hold more to be able to manage more, to be able to do more without actually feeling like you're doing more like, okay, that feeling stretched.
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Filly
Crazy, isn't it? You don't know it until you feel it and it's tight.
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Mel
You tight. And to try and explain it to somebody. I know you and I had these conversations like trying to get someone to understand that because I laughed at you. And it's that's not going to happen. But I need to go and, you know, live off grid with my chickens and still.
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Filly
Be successful and be regulated.
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Mel
Yes, yes. And so that's exactly what I want from this retreat. But I also wanted to create that space where women could come back and actually remember why they started their business in the first place, what it was that they actually wanted to succeed in, and how they wanted to run it. What's the life that they want to have?
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Mel
And how does the business actually then enable that? Because I think we get to this point where we start living our lives in alignment with what our business needs from us, rather than the other way around. And that's not why we started our businesses in the first place. We started business because we wanted free, but only something magical.
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Mel
Things that you get to a point, but you can most definitely influence those things so much more. And I mean, I know you're in on the business owner, you run your business, you've had to sculpt and create your business to suit your lifestyle. And that doesn't happen. You've got to take time to think about those things. And spaces like this will definitely support that.
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Mel
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Filly
And even once you've created it, like there's anyone who's listening to this or watching back the replay and they're like, oh, actually, like I have done those, like the practices you were talking about. They've created a business the way that they want. Like what? What's important to me about coming to your retreat is it's not a once and done.
00:27:23:21 - 00:28:02:23
Filly
No. Like, it's like, I think about this, my relationship with myself is an overflow of will, will be an overflow of everything that I touch. So my family also my business. If I start having a relationship with myself, then all of that starts fizzling and cracking and dying like literally just starts dying and becoming messy and chaotic. So there's so much value as well in terms of just like coming into a space that, you know, maybe not even from a place of desperation, but just a space is like putting the plug back in.
00:28:03:01 - 00:28:24:14
Filly
This is can me. Yeah. Like I get to like this. All we can do is make and I get to connect back to myself, and have more space than what I currently do in my everyday life. And working in and on the business and with my family to have those communication pathways open.
00:28:24:15 - 00:28:25:11
Mel
And.
00:28:25:13 - 00:28:47:19
Filly
Yeah, and this is where I'm really excited about, like the work, not from a place so much, from a place of regulation and the sound healing and everything you said, but that they can get into the unconscious mind in a way that just having a conversation doesn't. Yeah. And so anything that you need to know that will guide you, you know, creativity comes from the unconscious mind too.
00:28:47:19 - 00:28:52:13
Filly
So it's just like, I know that when I'm there, magic is going to happen.
00:28:52:15 - 00:29:10:18
Mel
Yes. But it's interesting that you say that because, you know, I'm sitting right. I mean, you know, you you teach people how to get out of body burnout. You're not coming into this because your body out. You come in because you know, the magic that's going to happen from recharging a system and putting yourself in a space is going to support you to do these things.
00:29:10:18 - 00:29:24:05
Mel
And the creativity I think that's the other thing is, I think that as women, we are highly creative beings, like we create things all the time, like we grow babies like, that's us.
00:29:24:05 - 00:29:24:20
Filly
Creating.
00:29:24:20 - 00:29:50:23
Mel
Things. And just to remember how powerful we are in what we can actually do, and reconnecting yourself with that so that you then have that clarity of vision, but also, like you said, like we are carrying so much all the time. This is one weekend for you to step away, to leave all that noise behind and just focus back in on you and get really clear about what it is that you want from your business.
00:29:50:23 - 00:30:20:12
Mel
Because you know the ideas that come from being in that sense of spaciousness are incredible. And like, I know this from the retreats that I've been on and, you know, that were very masculine retreats to doing things, but just the sparking of ideas from conversations and the other women that are going to be at this retreat, all high performance, high powered, ambitious business women who are also out there running their businesses.
00:30:20:14 - 00:30:45:02
Mel
And you're going to have just the best conversations with these women around the campfire and having a coffee. No, actually, let me at you are not having tea. And look, I said, I was like, I didn't have coffee at the retreat. However, it will be available because I know one of our other guests is like, I can't live with that.
00:30:45:04 - 00:31:04:23
Mel
It's like I'm gonna come with an ache and vomiting so she'll be smiling in the universe everywhere. So let me just kind of let her have it. But if you so feel desire to let the coffee go, I think that would be a great idea. So you'll be having you have those. Hey. But again, it's about those connections and about those conversations.
00:31:04:23 - 00:31:19:19
Mel
What's working for them? Where are they struggling? Where can you support each other? But then having so much space because this retreat is going to be held and the beautiful Twin Valley, it's completely immersed in nature. And this is the other reason that I have chosen this particular.
00:31:19:19 - 00:31:31:10
Filly
Location, healing it already. I've never been there, but I'm feeling like this. That is a baby weight. And literally so. I think that these tentacles coming out of my heart and I'm they're already I love that.
00:31:31:11 - 00:31:58:20
Mel
Hi Tracy, let's join. So I have through my own, the, I've lost my try. So sorry. Through my meditation practitioner training, a big part of that was getting back and connecting back to nature. A lot of it was about earth, space, wisdom and spending time in nature. And as someone who grew up in the country, you know, in the bush, I have always had this real affinity with it.
00:31:58:20 - 00:32:23:11
Mel
But I think for me, at a younger age, I want to get the hell out of there. I moved to Brisbane like I was disconnected as only been in the last of maybe five years. That I've really found that affinity back to nature and the Bush and I did a 24 hour solo camping trip as part of my initiation part of my meditation training, and it was one of the most magical, magical moments.
00:32:23:11 - 00:32:50:14
Mel
And it actually led me on this journey to getting an invitation to go and stay at Selah Valley, which is where we are having our retreat. And that is what then inspired this whole kind of, you know, you know, series of events. And that's why we're having this retreat there, because this is one pristine, untouched parcel of land backs on to, a nature reserve that you cannot access.
00:32:50:16 - 00:33:16:05
Mel
It has free flowing creeks and rock pools for you to be able to swim in the just. It has a presence. And for you to say that you can kind of feel it when you stand on this land. It has a volcanic eruption. You can feel it. It is it is just magic and it's so healing. And so we have plenty of time in the schedule to be able to go and swim in the rock pools.
00:33:16:05 - 00:33:58:22
Mel
If you feel the need, like I think I can't because. Right. And just to sit and take in the sounds and watch the water flow over the rocks and the trees move and just know that very, very few other people have ever been on this land. And just the magic of that and the space to be able to think and reconnect back in with, the seasons and the cycles of nature and remember your place in that and what that gives and that whole idea and that concept of, you know, we can't be in summer and blooming all the time.
00:33:59:00 - 00:34:26:10
Mel
We need those fallow winter periods to be able to rejuvenate the land and rejuvenate ourselves so that we can then come back and bloom in springtime. So think about this as your moment to step back, your moment to kind of recuperate and rejuvenate yourself so that you can then step back and re-enter after the retreat and feel rejuvenated and ready to go, because these are the magic that you're going to be able to experience.
00:34:26:10 - 00:34:50:06
Mel
So I'm so glad that you were kind of feeling that it's going to be magic. So good, so big. So I look, there's a few people that are on here. Is anybody got any questions that you want to ask me or ask about the retreat about her programs and body burn out? Put them in the comments. I'd love to answer any of those.
00:34:50:06 - 00:35:25:03
Mel
But you know, Filly has an incredible business and the way that she supports and so many people through body burnout, not just women, but men as well. And their program has, as I said, completely transformed my own health experience and has been a big driver and inspiring me to create these particular trade. And so I'm incredibly privileged to have Filly come along and, you know, as being a student and, you know, participating in her body burnout program to now be leading her on a retreat like that's pretty special that you've empowered that to me.
00:35:25:03 - 00:35:41:23
Mel
So thank you. So I'm excited to and yeah, it like that was a pretty special moment for me to say that you had booked through this retreat. I'm like, but I was the one that was broken and burnt out. And now you're coming to my retreat, which is really, really cool.
00:35:42:01 - 00:36:11:05
Filly
Oh, I think that was part of it, too. Like, it wasn't just that the universe aligned. It's like, I mean, I want more retreats in my life. Oh, got an email for building, but it was also just experiencing you not just not just Hilbert, embody everything. So I knew that whatever you I didn't even know many of the details, really, but but I knew that whatever you were going to put on is going to be amazing.
00:36:11:07 - 00:36:18:06
Filly
And also, you just got so much class and style, so, like, it's going to be beautiful. I trust you.
00:36:18:08 - 00:36:36:11
Mel
Oh, oh, thank you. I feel very honoured that you trust me with that. And look, you're right. Like, I embraced so many things and it was actually one of your comments that you made is like, I took on so many different modalities all at once and kind of just blended them in and made them my own and figured out what was working for me.
00:36:36:11 - 00:36:57:12
Mel
And then it kind of created this retreat and a mirror image of that to then enable other women to experience that, because some of the modalities and things that I have been part of, you know, our little bit, wait, wait, and not everybody in my world is going to resonate with what you were saying. I had to then figure out, where do I fit in this?
00:36:57:12 - 00:37:18:00
Mel
Like I'm, you know, still sitting in corporate world pretty firmly. And I like this way, way side of things, but not everyone's can I resonate with that? So I found my place is this bridge to try and help people kind of experience some of this stuff without it feeling like it's all a bit too much. And, you know, it's all a bit too, over the top.
00:37:18:00 - 00:37:42:06
Mel
So, good night. Tracy. And you. I know you're a big boy. We love us, so thank you. Mike. Yeah. And and, Nick, I would love for you to come and join this. It would be one amazing experience. If you have any questions about the retreat, I'm happy to answer those. But yeah, it's just going to be one beautiful experience.
00:37:42:06 - 00:37:46:21
Mel
And I'm so sorry on it that you're going to be coming and joining us for late. It's going to be magic.
00:37:46:23 - 00:37:49:12
Filly
Thank you. I'm so excited.
00:37:49:14 - 00:38:09:00
Mel
Now. Feel you have also got the doors opening to your anybody burnout program coming up. Do you want to tell us a little bit about that. So anyone is kind of going up the retreat sounds wonderful, but I really need to go and speak to this really lady because she's got to have me sorted. Teochew porridge, which is great.
00:38:09:02 - 00:38:34:16
Filly
So yeah. So program ending. body Bean at Method is a six month holistic root healing transformation program. As really desire for those people who are, busy, burnt out, runny nose, perfectionism, people pleasing, overdoing type patterns, and now their body is screaming at them. So we work on the physical body. So physical healing, but also deeper metaphysical healing.
00:38:34:18 - 00:38:42:04
Filly
So we only have indoors three times a year. So it is very exciting when we do open and the doors are opening on 24th of September.
00:38:42:08 - 00:38:44:22
Mel
So we've got
00:38:45:00 - 00:39:15:02
Filly
Also as part of our launch week, we had a beautiful rewire your brain to heal our body, burn our coaching week that people can drop into. Today, they can experience the type of healing guidelines that we use. And also, I've just had so many people who have never joined the program, but they get so much value out of the free, event where they've had, like, little mini transformations, shifts that have led to healing and health, which is just so beautiful.
00:39:15:04 - 00:39:32:11
Filly
So if you jump onto our website or actually will be connected on Instagram, I think when you publish this, that will show up on both of our feeds, so you won't miss it if you jump on to our Instagram profile. There's a lot of like information about the ending, what you've been up program and rewire your brain.
00:39:32:13 - 00:39:53:05
Mel
Yeah, yeah, I look I can vouch for ten. It's an incredible program and it takes it just so much further than that sort of stuff. This level of physical healing, which is an important part of it, because until you kind of have the support in your system from supplements and other things like that, that really, you know, has all across, you then need to do that deeper healing work.
00:39:53:05 - 00:40:11:22
Mel
But that's kind of like that's that's just the topical stuff is like putting a Band-Aid over it. You then don't need to actually sort of heal the wounds. So, incredible program. And it's made, as you can say, a massive difference in my life, this year that I'm allowing you, which, you know, it's helped a lot.
00:40:11:22 - 00:40:40:19
Mel
And so. Yeah. So and then the retreat is happening in October 23rd to the 26th is happening in the beautiful Tweed Valley, which is in northern New South Wales. It's only about half an hour from the Gold Coast airport. So if you're flying interstate, which Filly is, because Finley's coming from beautiful Tasmania to experience this, and then it's going to be three incredible days, as you said, it's got we've got yoga each morning we oh, we haven't even spoken about the food.
00:40:40:21 - 00:41:01:22
Mel
This is all the best. The food is going to be incredible because as Julie said, when you go to conferences, the food can be really heavy and really, you know, just doesn't sit well with your body. Yeah. All of our food is going to be incredibly nourishing. It's all organic. We have the best retreat chefs in Core and John coming to cater for us.
00:41:02:00 - 00:41:27:02
Mel
They, it's a fully adrenal supported diet. And now I know what adrenal diet is now because really taught me. But this is all about supporting your body's natural system to function at its optimum level without adding any extra load that your liver and your other bodily systems then need to actually process. Hence the reason I highly recommend removing the coffee, which I still have not had coffee.
00:41:27:02 - 00:41:28:19
Mel
I am still on decaf.
00:41:28:21 - 00:41:30:03
Filly
Now, so.
00:41:30:05 - 00:41:52:00
Mel
It has made a massive difference to my ability to actually process all of those natural toxins and things that are in your body. So all of the food is gluten free, dairy free, and I can tell you it is incredible. You will absolutely love it. And our retreat, chefs, also the process of creating a cookbook. So you'll be able to take on some of those amazing recipes as well.
00:41:52:02 - 00:42:10:21
Mel
So we're going to have that. We've got breathwork. We have those really deep women's wellness conversations. Because I think so many of us, again, aren't living in a with our cycles, don't understand the fact that we, you know, need time to rest, how we can work with that energy, when is our best time of the month to be actually doing this activity?
00:42:10:21 - 00:42:24:07
Mel
And this activity and this activity and really starting to tune into those things, because when you're riding that wave, rather than trying to push against it, it works so much better. And and I feel you'll agree with me on on that one.
00:42:24:10 - 00:42:26:07
Filly
Yeah. Yeah for sure.
00:42:26:08 - 00:42:38:08
Mel
Yeah. So amazing. So I think oh well I feel like we can keep talking for hours. But is there anything else that you want to leave anybody with tonight before we wrap up?
00:42:38:10 - 00:42:57:13
Filly
No, I don't think so. I think we've covered so many things, and I'm just. Yeah. I'm so excited about the retreat. I think anyone who has been listening or listens back to the replay, it's really hard not to feel the excitement and the energy of it. So it's it's going to be awesome.
00:42:57:15 - 00:43:12:21
Mel
Yeah, it's going to be incredible. As I said, it's not just about wellness. It's also about getting clarity in your business because as business owners, we need that. But you can't get that clarity if you haven't got the wellbeing.
00:43:12:23 - 00:43:37:01
Filly
Yeah. This is something I don't know if I read this somewhere recently. So something around holidays. So people, this is it. So the holiday is great when you there. And, you know, this could be, like for a retreat, but the anticipation leading up to it is actually what makes the holiday. Apparently. So. I don't book in at the last minute.
00:43:37:01 - 00:43:40:12
Filly
Do it now and then. You just have this feel good feelings and you'll be able.
00:43:40:12 - 00:43:41:10
Mel
To feel.
00:43:41:14 - 00:43:46:11
Filly
The Tweed Valley like I am in my heart. It's like it's this.
00:43:46:13 - 00:44:06:23
Mel
Yes. And it's that anticipation. And that's. Yeah, it's like having something to look forward to, you know, that that's held in your diary. And that is just time for you. And on the flip side of that, the other thing that I've been thinking about is so, so many wonderful people going to your summer at the moment, and it's like, that might be great, but all those challenges that you're going to have in your business are still going to be there when you get back.
00:44:07:04 - 00:44:35:18
Mel
Yeah, it's is not a holiday. This is going to be a strategic pause for your business to be able to leap forward by creating that space. And that's clarity to be able to move your business forward. So if you're going to Italy or you know, you're a summer, this is still something that you should be highly considering because it is a business asset, not a nice little holiday.
00:44:35:18 - 00:44:40:20
Mel
Although I'd love to go to Europe as well, but just consider. Yeah, I like that.
00:44:40:20 - 00:44:53:09
Filly
I saw the post that you put up on it. Maybe it was last week around, so it was like you could go to Italy dot dot dot and like, yeah, I'd like to go to Italy. And then I saw that and I'm like, oh yeah, right.
00:44:53:11 - 00:44:57:01
Mel
Oh. So maybe not long. I should tell.
00:44:57:01 - 00:45:16:19
Filly
You the truth. I recently went to Bali, which was amazing. And it was so good that you didn't want to come home. And sometimes, like at the end of a holiday when you got your children there and it's like a bit like chaotic and crazy, you just desperate to come home. But it was a really nice pause. And it's different.
00:45:16:20 - 00:45:25:20
Filly
Like the experience of going on a retreat where you're sorting out the stuff that is out of alignment now.
00:45:25:22 - 00:45:26:11
Mel
00:45:26:13 - 00:45:39:03
Filly
Well, that isn't working for you. So when you come back, not only do you feel refreshed and recharged and you've had a great time, but you've also you've also like shifted mountains in your business and in your life.
00:45:39:05 - 00:45:57:11
Mel
Yes, yes, yes. You know, just going to come back to the same old thing. Yeah. Laid it out. You've decided I'm no longer doing that or we're going to start doing this or this is working really well. I'm going to double down on that. And you've got the energy and the clarity and that internal spaciousness that we spoke about to be able to do that.
00:45:57:13 - 00:46:23:14
Mel
And that internal spaciousness only comes from clearing the clutter, and that comes from somatic work. Getting into the body. It's as you said before, it's not achieved by speaking. It's actually achieved by moving and tuning in and transferring that and releasing. And that happens in those breath works and the yoga and the sound healing. That's where we're going to tap into that and create that spaciousness.
00:46:23:14 - 00:46:33:01
Filly
So yeah. Exciting. Oh, good. And just like hire a plane in the day before you come home so you don't come home. And it's just like the family is like, thanks, dad.
00:46:33:01 - 00:46:45:17
Mel
My house. Yes. Do you thought, what if instead of trash, that's an option to like. Very good point. There we go. I'll put that into the, I'll add that into the retreat notes when people, Okay.
00:46:45:19 - 00:46:53:22
Filly
I'm just thinking about it because I've upgraded. We've got a robot vacuum cleaner. Not very. Maybe it was in there for my birthday, but it was a cheap one.
00:46:54:00 - 00:46:55:12
Mel
Which was good, but I couldn't send it.
00:46:55:12 - 00:47:06:06
Filly
To the room, so sometimes it would just, like, completely miss rooms. So anyway, I've recently upgraded to, like, a good one. It's my best friend. I love it so much. You won't like things.
00:47:06:08 - 00:47:10:15
Mel
That's that's that's I just for my birthday. So. Yes.
00:47:10:17 - 00:47:13:08
Filly
Good investment.
00:47:13:10 - 00:47:29:18
Mel
Fabulous. Oh, look, thank you so much for joining us tonight. Really. As I said, everyone jumping in and have a look at the links. You will find them there. We'd love to welcome you into the retreat and into anybody. Burnout. I know that whichever way you go or you do both, you'll have the best experience. So thank you so much for joining us.
00:47:29:18 - 00:47:34:09
Mel
And we hope to see you at the retreat. Thank you. Thank you Billy.
00:47:34:11 - 00:47:38:22
Chris
Oh yeah.
00:47:39:00 - 00:47:49:02
Filly
Thank you so much for listening. We so appreciate you. If you'd like to give us extra smiles, drop us a review and spread the love by sharing this episode.
00:47:49:04 - 00:48:15:04
Chris
You can also write your own state of burnout and the root cause contributors by taking our Ending body Burnout assessment on our website. And if you're interested in learning about that group or one on one ending body burnout programs, shoot us a DM via Instagram or Facebook. Have the best day ever.
00:48:15:06 - 00:48:17:16
Chris
For us.
