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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending Body Burn Out Show. We are your host, Chris and Filly co-founders of a multi-award-winning winning functional medicine practice, serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
While busyness, addictive doing, people pleasing and perfectionism might be the norm, it's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root, root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
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Filly
Sorry, get ready to heal your body, get your spark back deeply, connect with yourself and step into the life of your dreams.
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Chris
Let's dive in.
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Filly
Hello. Just a quick announcement before we dive into today's episode. My book, Ending Body Burnout, which I've been banging on about for the last two issues, is finally being released at the end of October for any campaigns out there. I am currently running a pre-release release book sale launch where you can receive almost $300 worth of bonuses when you buy the book before it's physically released.
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Filly
So the bonuses include beating our beating body burn and perfectionism shock course. I live communicating with symptoms. Intimate workshop with Chris and I date to be announced and also my gut movement masterclass. So head down to the show, you know, buy the book and you receive all these awesome bonuses, you know.
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Chris
So good. All right. So in this episode, we're super excited to share with you a Connect the Dots episode with you. And it's been a while since we've done this. And I think back in June was our last one.
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Filly
Episode 16
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Chris
In these Connect the Dots episodes, what we do is we take listeners case and we put out Detective hats on and we connect the dots to the health symptoms. We identify potential mind body environments, root causes. We suggest lab tests to confirm these imbalances. In today's episode, we're digging into a case around bloating, constipation, nausea, tiredness, burnout and anxiety.
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Chris
So thank you so much, Heidi, for sending in your case and letting us investigate this on our podcast. If you'd like to have your case reviewed by us and connected the dots and you'd like to be on to connect the dots episode, go to the show notes down below, click the application, form our link to send us your case.
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Filly
Awesome. So before we jump into today's case, this is for informational or educational purposes only. So this doesn't replace having an official consult with us or with your medical doctor or practitioner. So what we are discussing today is coming from a place of not from a place of advice giving. This is not health advice, it's not medical advice.
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Filly
It would actually be irresponsible for all of us to look at someone whose Google form that they sit in and be like, Oh, this is what's going on with you. Do this because we have not sat with you over an extended period of time to really understand your unique case. So this episode or the Connect the Dots episode is more looking or giving you another approach at looking at body burn out symptoms and taking you through our holistic body mind environment approach to healing variety.
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Filly
So let's dive into Heidi's case. So this poor soul has been struggling with some pretty intense chronic health issues since a teenager. So she wrote in with a lot of gut symptoms bloating, constipation, nausea, vomiting, as well as other burn out symptoms. Tiredness burn out anxiety. This listener said her health issues started after a lot of childhood trauma, constantly needing to keep busy and be a good girl by getting good grades and people pleasing.
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Filly
She also says that she grew up with a very anxious and emotional mother. He and she felt like as the child, she needed to constantly be working and helping out around the house and wasn't able to relax much. And this has continued on into adulthood. So she also said she moved out of home in year 12 with her sister and had three jobs to support herself.
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Filly
Not much downtime, but not much downtime there. There was not a lot of context around that. I imagine there wasn't much downtime as a teenager, but also I have a feeling this is carried onto into adult life. Also. Okay, so we'll dig into all of that. I just wanted to give a recap of the symptoms when it started and also what this listener has tried so far.
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Filly
So she has tried quite a lot of stuff, especially around gut health. So she wrote in and said she's currently on gaps in three stage four almost and almost finished a three month leave a program. So she's done it. For those who don't know gaps, it is a beautiful healing element and diet that really takes you back to bone, broths, lots of eggs in the injury stage, and then slowly over time you start introducing foods back in.
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Filly
For some people it works amazing, but obviously for this lady, she isn't getting anywhere fast and sounds like she's also deep into a liver program. So she says that being fully committed to the gaps program for five months now that is dedication. I've been 95% sugar, dairy, gluten free, fruit free, white carb free, grain free. And following the program, I have seen some reduction in symptoms, but it's not consistent.
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Filly
So say this is already I start putting little question marks around this. It's like, wow, okay. So if the symptoms have reduced a little bit, but not completely and not consistent, especially the gut issues, then this is no longer just about food is what I'm going to say. First and foremost. For that, I think the listener also says I think the stress of trying to add to this food and cooking and preparation, everything from scratch has actually added to my stress.
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Filly
And we often say that too. We had a lot of people who are busy and perfectionists and overdo is and you know, and this can show up as a pattern in trying to heal the body as well, which then can cause more stress to the system and then therefore little to no healing. She also mentioned she's on a lot of supplements zinc, magnesium, digestive enzymes, GABA, lipids, trace minerals.
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Filly
She has wanted to get shakes with fresh carrot and beetroot juice. She's doing all the things. She's also done some testing as well. So she mentioned she's done agi3 sixties stool testing which showed up parasites and also a C by breath tests. We showed up positive and she's been show tested for pyros which is a genetic issue to do with zinc and copper which was negative.
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Filly
Prior to this. She had also tried fodmap diets which didn't help expensive antibiotics to see. So they are very expensive, like $500 which didn't help and seeing eight plus naturopaths insane spending thousands of dollars to no great improvement. Oh okay. So there's a lot going on, not only symptomatically, but she is trying really hard to heal her body.
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Filly
So I think we need to acknowledge that, first of all, that like you, you go girl, you're obviously in this space to get results into and you want to be well and you want to heal. But currently it sounds like the way in which she is going about it is feeling really frustrating, exhausting, even more stressful. And then highly likely that is probably one deep reason as to why they haven't been health resolution yet.
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Chris
MM. I like to my very first thought about when I first meet somebody or hear a case is just to listen to the way they speak about concerns and, and what's going on in their life and often think this is a hard time, this is, this is a challenge. And one of the one of the non-physical ways that that somebody can get better is by just shifting the language in the way that they they talk about their experience not owning, not possessing it, not possessing the experience that we're going through, and also not labelling things.
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Chris
One, one thing I just caught one little snippet there about finances like expensive tests and it might cost say $500, right? That might be Well, it is what it is. It's $500 by calling it expensive sometimes, I don't know. Sometimes it can be a little bit victime. I can't afford this. This is too hard for me and and I'm not going to cough that up.
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Filly
Or I've spent the money and I have no idea.
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Chris
And now I regret.
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Filly
Face.
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Chris
Right? Yeah. And I feel like I've, I've, I've eaten it, I've eaten this cost and now it's coming back up to get me. And the reason why I honed in on that is because Heidi has got nausea. She's experiencing that that sort of feeling sick. And the cost of these tests is making me sick. It makes me sick to think that I am going through all of this as the supplements.
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Chris
Yeah, maybe it was.
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Filly
Does it really matter? Yeah.
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Chris
This is this is just the just the. Just the thought that's worth jotting down. Contemplating and and exploring is like, wow. Yeah. Okay. Is there a more, is a more empowered language that I can use to, to conversate about my experience.
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Filly
And that's a good point because I like to reframe to if I'm meeting with someone for a connect the dots initial consult, which is usually the first part of the process when doing our antibody burn out method. But it's like, Well, you know what it probably like it's not a waste because it's it's got it to this point, which will then get you to that point.
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Filly
So it's almost like I'll look back at all the things I did that at the time. I'm like, Oh, this is a waste of time or money, because I didn't get the results straight away, or I've been trying really hard to get them and I still have issues six months later, whereas now I can look back in hindsight.
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Filly
I'm like every single little thing that I did and big thing, it all fits like it all was all part of the picture. In order for my body to then heal and be healthy.
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Chris
This is reminding me of this. One time I was over some people's place and we're not. We're not serving a mission for my church. And I went to this family's house and they were they didn't have a lot of money and they just fed us fellas this massive meal. And at that time, I didn't I didn't have any boundaries around eating and I ate a lot of food and something didn't sit right with me.
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Chris
And I felt nauseous and I felt sick and I threw up and I felt such shame and guilt around around that experience because it was it was beautiful, was a beautiful experience. I'm so grateful. And then here I am just throwing it up. And I felt like it was a massive waste and I felt guilt and shame and what was what threw the dagger into my heart or gut probably was that I was hungry afterwards.
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Chris
And and then that lay it on some more shame and guilt. I don't know if that resonates with anybody, but.
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Filly
I could to do with.
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Chris
This. Nausea, nausea, nausea is a is a symptom. And sometimes when we do things, we feel guilt and shame. And I I've started to notice that when someone feel sick there, it doesn't take much poking around to find the shame and guilt. And it happens more, more often than not that that I just I find it hard to think it's a coincidence.
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Filly
Yeah, we'll dig into that a little bit later. Let's just kind of look at it. The two causes of body burn out. So where do we go from here with this, this data, with these dots on a page? So we believe that there are two causes to causes of body burn out in chronic health issues. So there's either physical, inflammatory or metaphysical inflammatories and in actual fact, there's always both.
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Filly
Yeah. So if only one side is addressed, if only the physical body is being addressed, which it sounds like this is what this lady has done a lot of work around, especially around the gut and the liver, lots of beautiful, lovely, wonderful physical work. But it's unlikely to get long lasting results or any results at all if the metaphysical inflammatories aren't being addressed either, which is kind of what Chris was talking about in terms of shame and guilt.
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Filly
And we'll talk deeper about that one in a Ezekiel. So let's dig into both of these. Let's start off with the physical side of things and I want to talk about the body systems more specifically. So it sounds like this lady's experiencing significant chronic gut issues. So yeah, it would make sense for someone to look at that gut.
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Filly
It's like I'm feeling the issues in my gut. Will therefore it must be an gut issue. So in this case, I think like she did a great job or whoever she was working with, prescribing a stool test and a C bar test to really get an understanding of what was what's going on in the gut. And it looks like this list not.
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Filly
Yeah, has has got some results or some answers around that So there is Seeber there is parasite, they are parasites, there is dysbiosis and that is all great to know because then it's like, okay, cool. Now we know a bit more about what to work on here, but currently all the gut treatment that she's tried so far hasn't worked.
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Filly
The antibiotics for the seabury, the digestive enzymes, the gaps diet, which clears up or should clear up a bunch of dysbiosis, something that I think about with with Seabury and really stubborn gut symptoms that aren't really improving with other methods is using the elemental diet. So I thought I just dropped that in that if that's an avenue that this person hasn't tried yet, then the elemental diet is incredibly effective at clearing out sabre.
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Filly
So that's basically two weeks of a special formulated shake. No food that feels.
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Chris
Yummy.
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Filly
Feeds the host, but not the bacteria. And so then the bacteria in the small intestines die off. But but but but taste like.
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Chris
But it.
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Filly
Oh, well, actually, no. There's a chocolate flavour and a tropical flavour that that, that we use. When I did the elemental diet back when I had Sabre there was only the chocolate flavour and that tasted like, but by the end of the two weeks.
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Filly
I'm just like, I'm so sick of this chocolate shake, give me something to eat.
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Filly
Okay. But even before I would think about doing more gut support, I would be thinking about what else is happening at the physical body systems level, which is preventing the gut from healing, especially what is happening in the neural endocrine system. So this listener said that she had trauma in the past and that she's now showing up with patterns of busyness, high levels of stress, people pleasing, difficulty, relaxing, no downtime.
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Filly
The gut cannot heal in a stressed state. So when you're in a stressed day, you switch into the sympathetic nervous system state, which is fight and flight. And in that state you cannot rest and digest effectively. So I would be like, let's just forget about gut work at the moment. Let's calm the farm down and work out why your system is in a fight or flight mode and address that first before we jump back into gut work.
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Filly
Okay. So, so the two things that to body systems then from that side of things I'd be thinking about are the adrenals and also the neurotransmitters. So your adrenals, all these lovely organs that sit on top your kidneys, they secrete your stress hormones, cortisol and DHEA. So cortisol is your fight or flight response hormone. Cortisol is great. We would all be dead if we didn't produce cortisol because it keeps us safe.
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Filly
It is also really good for energy production. But if you're not regulating your stress hormones or if you had a lot of chronic stressors, and that also could now be physical stressors as well as metaphysical stresses as well as like trauma, and then like just day to day life living. Then over time your hormones deplete and you just can't regulate yourself effectively anymore.
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Filly
So you always stay in a chronic state of fight or flight. So definitely be thinking about testing the adrenals and then also the brain. So neurotransmitters that are really important to help regulate the nervous system and just so important for every chemical reaction in our body serotonin, dopamine and adrenaline. So adrenaline is a bit more like that. Cortisol, when you're experiencing stressors or inflammation, whether it's physical or metaphysical, your body is producing a lot of adrenaline because it's it's the fight flight brain chemical as well.
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Filly
So it's like I am not safe. I'm feeling stress, I'm feeling pain, Something bad is about to happen. So I have to inject a whole heap of adrenaline to fight or to get out of these dangerous situation. And when I talk about dangerous situation generally, you know, that probably was dangerous stuff in the past and maybe there might be in the present, but most of the time the invisible, not real dangers.
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Filly
It's just that your whole body can't regulate very effectively now and now everything feels dangerous. So I'd be thinking about testing the neurotransmitters, which we do, using a lovely organic acid test that looks at your brain via your urine, which is just amazing. And the other body system I want to mention before we move on to metaphysical root causes is the data, are the detox pathways.
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Filly
So she did mention that she completed a three month detox program. I'm assuming that this was not based on testing because it sounds like she's only done gut testing. So my first question would be did it even need to be addressed? Like maybe the loos actually find all the detox pathways, but also maybe it's not. And then generally speaking, I wouldn't be trying to detox until the gut is healed.
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Filly
So so one, I would actually do some specific testing, do you need support with detox and also what type of support? Because there are a bunch of different markers and different pathways in the body and different nutrients that support the clearance of toxins from the body that that may need different type of support. So potentially she might have been using the wrong types of supplements.
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Filly
And yeah, you generally don't really want to detox until the gut is healed because one of the major ways the liver gets to toxins from the body is it dumps it back into the gut via the gallbladder in the bile, which by the way, if there's chronic nausea, I also think that they're potentially might be bile issues. So liver dumps the toxins back into the gut via by via the bile.
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Filly
And then you should be able to pull it all out. Now she's got sabre and parasites and dysbiosis and things and constipation and things aren't going and flowing through the body as it should. Then those toxins are just going to get recirculated back into the system, stressing the whole body out. And this is where I often say not so much in our clinic, because we do it in a very safe aura when the person is ready.
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Filly
But I have seen a lot of other people get really sick when they're detoxing, and there's just kind of myth in the natural therapies that it's like it's good to feel crap when you're detoxing, purging, vomit, diarrhoea, stay in bed for a week. I'm like, No, actually, like, yeah.
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Chris
This is starting to sound like high intensity physical or a high intensity physical exercise. And this is that version of that. It's like no pain, no gain. Oh, if you're not detoxing to death, are you really even detoxing, man?
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Filly
Yeah, right. Yeah. Now, like, if any clients listening and they, like, I got symptoms generally, like, you.
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Chris
Know, like.
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Filly
Generally they're generally like most people do feel some sort of detoxing type symptoms, but, you know, it's usually mild. Like for me, I remember I had a bunch of cystic acne off on my jawline. Now that's not fun. And it wasn't pretty, but it didn't prevent me from mothering or working. I got a bit of a headache over my right eyebrow and wheedle enough.
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Filly
My nose just excreted balls of oil. But you know that that's that's I feel like that is okay if it's to the extreme where it's just like I can't sleep because I've got high anxiety and insomnia and I'm sorry, itchy and I'm like vomiting and pooing out everything then Not good. Not good. Yeah. Okay.
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Chris
Metaphysical.
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Filly
Yeah, Well, well, also, just really quickly, just from a physical, inflammatory. So I really just kind of touched on the body systems. But then I'd also be thinking for my physical perspective, what else is happening in the lifestyle, in the environment. So is this person still using environmental toxins? Maybe in skincare cleaning products? Because that's going to put more stress on the body.
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Filly
Is the house mouldy? My may there be some EMF sensitivities? What's her sleep like? What's her lifestyle like? Is she moving or not moving too much? So they're the type of things that we'd be thinking about from a physical, inflammatory perspective. Metaphysical. Yeah. This is like, come on.
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Chris
On the edge. Must say.
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Filly
Science.
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Filly
I love.
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Chris
Science.
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Filly
So I think, by the way, metaphysical is science as well. It is absolutely science and structure and process and research backed.
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Chris
So okay, so, so. Digital Editor Okay, so not research back this, this next thing I'm going to say is is more about in a contemplation and soul searching. So there's a saying as within so without as above sort below and and I think when when I help someone with physical pain say when I was doing massage, someone comes to me with a pain in let's just say a pain in the pain in the back, lower back.
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Chris
It's the issue is rarely at the specific site of the of the pain. It's rarely that and there's a saying to go upstream downstream. So you go look above and you look below and then first off you go within you go as close to the close to the centre as you possibly can. There's an analogy here. So as above, so below as without.
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Chris
So we see an upstream, downstream. So upstream downstream conscious. What are you aware of, What are some things that straight up coming to the surface. We let's talk about symptoms. There's the symptoms so we've got constipation, tiredness, worry, anxiety, bloating, anxiety, burnout, all that sort of stuff. So I think, okay, now what's underneath all of that? Every behaviour has a belief underneath.
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Chris
Constipation is a behaviour, it's a behaviour of the body sometimes, mostly all the time. There might be a some sort of unconscious messaging in there. And what is that? What's constipation? Conservation could be refusal to let go of old ideas hanging on to your crap, right? Stuck in the past stinginess, all that sort of stuff. Titan. What this?
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Chris
Then you've got tiredness as a symptom. That's what you're aware of. But what's underneath all of that? What sort of beliefs are underneath that tiredness. Are you investing your energy in things that have little to no value to you? Are you over prioritising the urgent things and not so much living a value of a value driven life, purpose filled life Bloating, bloating.
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Chris
What's bloating? Bloating is trying to get out something is trying to get out Distension. It's it's a pressure from within. You've got this something inside of you is just trying to get out, but you're holding in your crap and then you got nausea So it's something's making you feel sick. And then the next question that I would ask if I didn't know this is what's your past been like?
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Chris
What's growing up being like for you? And now we know from from Heidi's case notes that there was trauma, there was childhood trauma, and that as as within so without as above so below the things that happen in our life that we experience find a way to get into us.
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Filly
And yeah, we might talk a bit more about trauma side of things as well, because if someone has trauma in the past that hasn't been addressed, it is 100% a deeper root cause of gut issues, anxiety and fatigue like it is because we're an interconnected being. So I'll get scientific now as well in that what actually happens when you experience trauma or distressing events?
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Filly
Because trauma is sometimes people think that trauma is, you know, rape and domestic violence and being in a war and maybe a really traumatic accident.
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Chris
Which it is.
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Filly
Which it is. It definitely.
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Chris
Is. Because it's not just it's not only that, right.
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Filly
Yeah. So so I actually like to use the term just distressing events. What has happened in the past that caused distress to your brain, your nervous system, your body, your emotions. And sometimes the distressing event can be if you look back and it's just like, Oh, that was really innocent. Doesn't that happen to every child? I just had a normal, happy, happy upbringing that that was that was fine.
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Filly
But as a child, we're egocentric. So which means that everything that happens means something about us. And children have a limited capacity to process and make sense of things from, you know, an adult perspective or rational perspective. So we have we have girl little girls. Well, they're growing up now, but our youngest is eight. And the smallest thing can cause major distress for her because she's internalising everything.
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Filly
Everything means something about her. And generally when you experience something negative, you make it mean something negative about yourself. So I just wanted to contextualise that that trauma isn't just the big stuff. It's also the little stuff. And which then means that no child comes out of childhood without trauma. Like every child at some point would have something quite distressing happen to them that may or may not.
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Filly
And often it remains in the body be stored in the body. So when something happens, trauma distressing event instead of if you are feeling the sudden explosion of cortisol and adrenaline going back to the brain and the adrenals and and your body can't process that very effectively and it's feeling really intense and you're not able to really rationalise it the way that we might as an adult.
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Filly
Then instead of that memory or that event or series of things that happened, the situation getting stored in the hippocampus and being timestamped is done. You can stay in the past. Now you're just a memory. Look, we can retrieve it, but it's just natural. That's normal. What's dysfunctional is if that memory or that those events or situations don't get time stamped and they get stuck in the unconscious state, almost like a broken videotape loop going round and round and round in your unconscious state, as if you are reliving it again and again and again in the present.
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Filly
And so then if you think about that, that's going to have may a major, major, major stress cause major stress to the body because then constantly your adrenals are firing and your brain is firing and your nervous system is always feeling like it's in danger, then that's going to break down the gut. Then that's going to overwhelm the detox pathways.
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Filly
Then that's going to cause more stress to the adrenals in the brain. So it just becomes this vicious cycle. So if we go back to what Chris said around constipation or having things stuck or blocked in your body or feeling like you need to crap something out that you're holding on to it, well, yeah, like, yes, this is like scientifically what's happening when there is trauma and the unconscious state, the only way that it can talk to us is if you through things, imagination, symbols and pain.
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Filly
And so that's where often we find that there are links between certain symptoms in the body having a symbolic meaning around something that's stuck in the unconscious state that needs to be addressed.
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Chris
And, you know, we're a fan of testing some sometimes when it comes to metaphysical testing, we like to use what we call outlet. We we have outlets where our our clients can plug their thoughts into the outlet, not a physical outlet, but metaphorical outlet like kind of like journaling and with some specific work to do and, and when you get this stuff out of you get it out of your head and you connect with your heart, you connect with what's what's actually really going in at the deeper level, you can you can find some really interesting data that's worth contemplating.
00;33;39;27 - 00;33;59;00
Chris
And if you don't get it out of your head, if you don't plug it into outlet, you just you've already got way too much in your head already. And that and you're trying to hold on to this stuff that just all this crap. Just get it out of your head, plug it into the outlet and and then deal with it once it's on paper.
00;33;59;00 - 00;34;01;22
Chris
You can actually deal with it.
00;34;01;24 - 00;34;31;12
Filly
And also to like what we find with clients as well as then you start seeing patterns in there. That outlet is a little like the metaphysical lab testing. Just see in the same way that we saw a bunch of patterns or connected the dots with the physical lab test. Same thing. There's a whole heap of patterns where it's just like, Oh, because of this distressing stuff that happened which just put you into a fight or flight state that is not processed and dislodged from your unconscious state yet.
00;34;31;14 - 00;35;01;28
Filly
Oh, it's showing up as patterns of behaviour, usually festival or thought patterns. So going back to Hardy's case, the people pleasing, the getting good grades, the good girl. So that's really common when someone has a trauma response in the body because it's like, oh, it's unsafe to be part of the to not be part of the tribe. So when I am a good girl, when I get good grades, when I plays other people, then other people are going to accept and love me.
00;35;01;29 - 00;35;25;13
Filly
So it it's kind of like a protective mechanism of not being rejected. And maybe I mean, she doesn't talk about what type of childhood trauma, but potentially too, if there was any violence involved, then it's like, yeah, actually it is safe, it is unsafe to not people place and to not be a good girl because physically I may get hurt if I don't.
00;35;25;16 - 00;35;39;08
Filly
And even though someone may grow and not be in that environment anymore, they're in a safe environment. The unconscious state doesn't know that because it's playing around these videotape loops that are going round and round and round. Happening now.
00;35;39;10 - 00;36;19;14
Chris
That's the psychological blow right there. It's this pressure from within. Every behaviour has a belief underneath. Or if you if you think about bloating as a metaphor for psychological or emotional pressure, a what's the stories in there? What's the stories that's causing this internal pressure? What's the stories that's causing this this anxiety and this shame? What's the stories that you've decided to install as a protective mechanism based on the experiences that you've had that that were overwhelming for you while you were developing and growing up?
00;36;19;16 - 00;36;31;20
Chris
And then once you've got that out where plug that in and you can see all those dots you can connected and you can start to actually deal with that.
00;36;31;22 - 00;36;56;02
Filly
And what I found really interesting too, is we've had some clients in the past who have done maybe something like EMDR, which can clear trauma, but then they were still left with all these shame, guilt, self-limiting beliefs that were often created during that time. So although they're well, they they are unconscious they don't nervous system was back into a state of calm when they thought about certain events.
00;36;56;05 - 00;37;24;17
Filly
There was all this other baggage, baggage that had been created, programmed, wired into the body around and like specifically around deeper dysfunctional beliefs that they have about themselves and their worth as a human. So so trauma like, oh my goodness, if someone's trauma must be addressed. So when we're working with clients, we do this really specifically at the unconscious level because it kind of makes sense.
00;37;24;17 - 00;37;53;10
Filly
Talk therapy can only be helpful for so long because when we think about our mind, we're 5% conscious and 95% unconscious. So must go down into the unconscious state to switch off, heal trauma and also reprogramme require any self living beliefs that are causing dysfunctional patterns that are leading to burnout and also causing really directly symptoms.
00;37;53;12 - 00;38;24;29
Chris
One more thing on that is the shame about doing more work. Do you know what I mean? Like I've already done so much. That's almost like there's this little forcefield that just got put up when you when you say that there's a little energetic or just, you know, I'm of Star Wars or something like that, like a deflector beam you can't get if you can just be vulnerable enough to just keep, keep going, keep, keep this work going.
00;38;24;29 - 00;38;54;07
Chris
Keep you're doing such a great job. Yes. You've done a lot. Can you do more? And if you're still experiencing symptoms, then there's still more to do, right? So. So yeah, you've done you've done a lot. Good job. Keep. Keep going. What's that? What's the leftovers? Mm. Everyone's going to put their plate in the dishwasher in our, in our home.
00;38;54;08 - 00;38;57;21
Chris
You know, once you've, once you've finished the mirror you put it in.
00;38;57;23 - 00;39;01;24
Filly
Oh I don't know. I think I do the dishwasher.
00;39;01;26 - 00;39;02;20
Chris
Yes you do.
00;39;02;22 - 00;39;04;03
Filly
But I long finish.
00;39;04;03 - 00;39;04;16
Chris
The job.
00;39;04;20 - 00;39;26;19
Filly
Along the lines. What you were saying too. I mean it's a bit of a segue way, but it's like, yeah, that there's hot. Like if you haven't got the results yet, there's more work to be done. And this is going back to the original thought of you're not just treating the physical body physically. They must also be the metaphysical testing and addressing.
00;39;26;22 - 00;39;53;20
Filly
And here's the thing if you just continue, if you continue addressing the physical over and over and over again, maybe doing the same things, maybe trying different things and there's stuff stuck in the unconscious state, it's not going to get very long lasting results and it can actually cause more trauma because your unconscious mind feels like it doesn't matter yet.
00;39;53;20 - 00;40;17;14
Filly
Again, if you aren't listening to why the unconscious mind is sending you messages via the body to get your attention, and that pain is always there to protect you, to love you, to serve you. And if you're just flogging it with physical stuff, only then it's just like, Oh my goodness. It's like, how am I going to get this person to listen to me?
00;40;17;14 - 00;40;56;16
Filly
They're not listening to me. They don't love me. Oh, that's just cementing even further dysfunctional beliefs that I'm unlovable or not good enough, not worthy, whatever it is. And so when you listen to yourself, these this pain, these symptoms, as frustrating as they are highly likely right now, they are only ever there to try and bring you back to realign with yourself, to deeply connect with yourself and to love yourself the way that you were born to do before you started picking up weird beliefs and lies about yourself.
00;40;56;19 - 00;41;31;11
Filly
All right, awesome. Sorry. I think that wraps it up. I hope this helped everyone to gain a different perspective on gut issues and looking at physical health symptoms in a more holistic approach and also the power and the results that can come when you address body burn out from both a physical and a metaphysical inflammatory perspective. So as Chris mentioned earlier, if you'd like to get your own case anonymously reviewed on the Connect the Dots episode, just go down to the Shownotes, click the application form link and you can send us your case.
00;41;31;13 - 00;42;06;22
Filly
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00;42;06;22 - 00;42;12;20
Filly
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00;42;12;22 - 00;42;23;18
Chris
Thanks so much for joining us, guys. It's been good. One.
00;42;23;20 - 00;42;33;23
Filly
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00;42;33;25 - 00;42;52;04
Chris
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