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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending Body Burn Out Show. We are your host, Chris and Philly co-founders of a multi-award-winning winning functional medicine practice, serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
While.
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Filly
Busyness, addictive doing, people pleasing and perfectionism might be the norm, it's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root, root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
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Filly
Sorry, get ready to heal your body, get your spark back deeply, connect with yourself and step into the life of your dreams.
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Chris
Let's dive in a ride.
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Filly
Welcome to the ending body Burn Out. Show everybody. I'm so excited to have Tracy and Jo here. I was talking to them earlier and I said, I'm a little bit of a fangirl because I've been following them for ages. You're going to love this conversation and everything they're going to share. So we're really going to dive into living an additive free lifestyle because additives, chemicals, nasty toxins.
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Filly
Most of you should know that it definitely can impact the health of your body. So Jo Tracy, what got you both interested in living an additive free lifestyle? Maybe share some of your own personal journey into what you do now?
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Jo
Yeah, well, I'll start. So I think we both have a few different reasons now, but back in the early days, the reason I initially started to look into additives was to help my little girl who had.
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Tracey
Started, by the way.
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Jo
Pretty bad behavioural issues. Yeah. Is Jo here? So that started in 2013. At the time, she was only just three years old. I had a newborn baby as well. He was also pretty sick as a newborn, his body riddled with eczema and just screamed the first eight weeks of his life. And then I'm dealing with a three year old whose behaviour was just completely out of control.
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Jo
So life was pretty, pretty messed up. I don't think I left the house. I didn't get out of my dressing gown like it was awful and my husband as well was working away, so he was actually where he interstate. And I remember bringing him and saying like, you've got to come home. I cannot do this. It was it was awful.
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Jo
I got invited to a Thermomix demo and Tracy had just bought a me and I was like, as if a machine could be worth two grand. So I'm going to go along to this demo. So I got the baby sat, and Jacob and I, we went off.
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Filly
And.
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Jo
The consultant there, when she was making the custard, she just said this little one liner.
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Filly
Of.
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Jo
Aditi, one eye, two that can be found in custard pattern. I don't really like to give that to my kids because it can be linked to behavioural issues. So I went home that night and I googled additive one or two and I was pretty shocked at what I found. Behavioural issues, aggressive behaviour hyperactivity asthmatic should avoid it could be linked to cancer, like all these things that Ava was definitely displaying.
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Jo
And so that led me on a path to looking into additive small. And I spent my like days just Googling all of this information. I also had her booked into a clinic to get her son testing for ADHD because I just thought that's what I needed to do. And yeah, by the time my husband drove back from Sydney to Brisbane, I'd like made this big long list of additives that were linked to behavioural issues.
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Jo
And as soon as he walked in the front door, I'm like, Look, I don't know if this is any of her problem, but I think we should like maybe remove some of these additives in food. You know, I don't really know what I'm doing, but he was pretty on board with that straight away, so we did the best we could with what knowledge we had back then.
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Jo
And we just started to eat like way more Wholefoods. We actually went a little bit cold turkey, like we went to the fridge and pantry and we threw out anything that contained an additive off the list that I had made. And we just noticed an improvement straightaway. Like we really got our little girl back and yeah, she calmed down.
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Jo
She like would obviously still have tantrums because three year olds have tantrums for nearly three year olds have tantrums as well. Sometimes it's like, you know. But I was able to talk with her and I was able to raise them with her. And they before going out of the fray, her tantrums would go for so long that she'd result in a ball on the floor.
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Jo
She'd brought back and forth. She'd put her hands on her face. You'd try and scratch her face. I thought I'd have to literally peel her fingers off her face and pick her up, and she'd still be in these tight compressed bowl and just bear hug her until she would come out of it. And then genuinely she'd fall asleep.
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Jo
And they completely went like, We've never had a tension like that again. Yeah, she started sleeping better. And the other thing is she also stopped getting so sick and this was not why we went aditi free. But certainly one reason why Aditi free now is she was always sick, chronic repeated tonsillitis. She actually had it on Susan and I know I doubt she's only 20 months old.
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Jo
She had a couple of ear infections. They probably went the worst. The bronchitis. She had pneumonia one year that was on New Year's. We spent New Year's in hospital. She was in and out of the emergency department with a ways that they call at that age. They technically call it asthma till they're about six. She went on to a steroid preventer morning and night for her asthma.
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Jo
She was just sick and then she just stopped getting so sick as well as. Yeah, it impacted our life so much that I opened a Facebook page and started sharing some information.
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Filly
Yeah, it's huge. I remember when I first started my healing journey, food was the place where I first started. Have you guys read the book Deep Nutrition? Now? I think about it all the time because it was there. I mean, there's lots of great books, but that was just the first book. That was the light bulb moment. I'm like, Holy crap, Like the processed crappy food that I'm eating that I thought was healthy, healthy, could actually be causing all these inflammation in my body and could lead to cancer and heart disease.
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Filly
And what the heck. It was just it was so mind blowing. And I Yeah, sounds like it was the same for you that we just didn't know. And then when we did and then tested it out for ourselves or within our family, it's just like, Oh my goodness. And it just kind of made me mad too, that it's just like, What are these people feeding us?
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Filly
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Jo
The government's more than happy to allow, you know, approval of these ingredients.
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Filly
And then.
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Jo
You know, I've always I get me on attention.
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Filly
You know, it's.
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Filly
Really.
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Jo
Hard to get a pure, essential oil approved.
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Filly
Like.
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Jo
Crazy. So that's why we as consumers actually have to vote with our dollar and we have to choose where to spend our money. And companies will change their ingredients. And we are seeing that a little bit where they are starting to add more natural food colours in, you know, like we're seeing a little bit where my companies are kind of getting on board, but then, you know, there's still a long way to go.
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Filly
Yeah, Yeah. What about you? Tracey was that kind of like piggybacking Jo's journey or did you have.
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Filly
Stuff.
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Filly
Happening?
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Tracey
We've always been quite close to sisters, so my kids are ten years older than Jo. It's almost like to this, like, I've got to and Jo's got to.
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Tracey
Go, and.
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Tracey
Jo would ring me about a lot of things. And as someone, as an older sister and then as someone with children, you know, all the children know about this or about that. And we got onto this topic, you know, a few times as I've as journey progressed and different things and, and Jo's journey progressed, I guess as well.
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Tracey
And then I remember saying, like my oldest daughter was having quite a lot of headaches and she was she was in year seven. And I remember thinking, gosh, you know, it's could be hormones, it could be this could be that. And Jo said to me, What is she taking in a lunchbox? And I remember thinking, What are you talking about?
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Tracey
Who cares what she takes in a lunchbox? Like what type of planning that.
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Tracey
Got to do with it, you know?
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Tracey
Anyway, I pretty much humoured and discovered that she was eating quite a lot of additives each day for lunch and a lot of them were linked back to headaches and migraines and various things. So the moment I kind of, you know, heard that as a mother and as a parent as I Oh, okay, this doesn't feel right. Something's here.
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Tracey
And yeah, and then I would start looking into it more and I would learn more from Jo. And then we kind of just sort of dive in a little bit together and I kind of started help out on this little Facebook page and, you know, kind of I was very slow into the process. I was not an all in like diving headfirst type of fast.
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Tracey
And and I didn't feel I needed that for my particular family situation anyway. And as someone with teenagers, it would have been horrendous to just be like cold turkey. So we went very slow into the process and, you know, we're not perfect either, which I think is something really, really important for your listeners to understand. I, I think it's actually impossible to leave a perfect Aditi free or a perfect life of any kind.
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Tracey
And anyone that kind of is making out that they are pretty much lying. Like, I can't help what I consume when I go out to the shops. Like when I'm saying I can help, but I can what I eat, but I can't help what's sprayed on me. What's what's you know, I'm breathing in from some store that I walk into that has a fragrant smelling nettle, You know, all of those things.
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Tracey
So you can't be perfect. It's impossible. But we can control.
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Tracey
A huge.
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Tracey
Chunk of what we put on or in our body. And that's just what we try and do as much as possible at home.
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Filly
Yeah, I love that to say. Like a lot of people who end up in body burn out busyness often run perfectionism patterns. In fact, it's very rare that that is not part of the picture. And so I know that there are a lot of people, including people who start working with us, who are trying to do everything perfectly.
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Filly
Yeah, it it often causes more issues because the stress hormones are going crazy, adrenalin. They're always on high alert that this world is unsafe because we can't like we can't complete Lee get rid of all toxins in our life, whether that's food or environmental toxins. So I love it that you guys have your hashtag. What was it? Don't don't stress it.
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Filly
Is that is that what that is about? It's kind of like let's live in a world that's not perfect. We don't have to be perfect. Can you say that why you started hashtagging that? Because I think it's so important when it comes to trying to be healthy.
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Filly
Absolutely. It it is. It's impossible. It's a really great example is my oldest daughter's just become engaged and we're having an engagement party in a couple of weeks. And I've been tasked with making a lot of food now. Yes, I'm trying to do it to the values and morals that I believe in, but also there's over 100 people coming.
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Tracey
Let the reality of the situation is it's it's actually overwhelming for me. If I allowed it to be, I could do it. Yes, I could go and buy really expensive ham and bacon and live, you know, and create all these beautiful, amazing additive free food. But I recognised really quickly that that was going to be extreme, overwhelming. And so I did, I just bought diced bacon from the from the supermarket and I don't care like I don't even care a little bit.
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Tracey
And anyone's like, Oh, but you're meant to be the additive free lifestyle people. Yep. But in that moment I had beautiful pizza bases. My daughter works, my other daughter works at a bakery and they're beautiful additive free pizza bases and she's been bringing them home. Any that are leftover at the end of the day, at the end of it.
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Tracey
Steve So had this you know, I had beautiful pizza basis of use, organic tomato paste. I've bought all the fresh other ingredients on it, organic spinach and all the things but the bacon. I was like, oh, it would actually cost me hundreds of dollars to start off with. I'm happy to do that for my family. But in this situation it was don't stress that people and as you said, Bacon and and I'm not even going to feel guilty about it like you know so that's the type of what we mean like you do the best you can on any given day.
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Tracey
And when the world goes upside down and you're stuck in an airport for 9 hours, what are you going to do, starve or eat whatever the selling at the airport or, you know, you've got kids school carnivals or something coming up and you've had a really busy week and things have just gone upside down. Someone's been sick or, you know, something's happened in your life.
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Tracey
The car is broken down, whatever it might be, and you haven't got to the supermarket. Just go with whatever little club, have a lunch or whatever, you know, like there's those moments that we're like, just, just take the stress out. Don't stress. You can't be perfect and let's just do the best we can.
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Filly
Mm. I love that. I reflect back on my health journey. I'm thinking about people too, who, over time with their symptomology, start developing chemical sensitivities as well. Like, it wasn't the first thing, but it comes after so many time, so long. And when I first discovered about food and toxins, I was a perfectionist and kind of like and put a lot of pressure on myself to still look like I was living what I was preaching as well.
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Filly
And that meant all the time. All the time. And then it just so happened maybe a year after doing some significant stuff to try and help my health. But I started developing chemical sensitivities. It's just like, Oh, every smell of bleach. That perfume would then cause my heart to rise and my head to develop headaches or migraines. And I think back that it was again, I hate saying it was all in my head because my body was having a physical reaction to these things.
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Filly
But I think I was part of the culprit because I didn't feel safe. It's like I'm angry right now. These things are going to kill me and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so therefore the body just naturally will respond to that, you know, hyper vigilant way. Anyway, so I loved. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you. Oh, sorry. Great joy.
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Jo
Oh, it's just has I have certainly been through that phase as well and you can't help it. Like sometimes you have to walk through the base of Maya or ice and that's where all the perfumes are. And you know, you've got to get through it to get to level three. And but it is amazing how much you can actually smell like when you're not used to it.
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Jo
And I can smell like at home, my essential odour phase is going. But Tracy got in my car the other week. She she was here and I could smell different essential oils on her. So. So your body does get used to what it gets used to saying if you are into the jade or you know, whatever perfume you have, over time you start putting more on because you can't smell it.
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Jo
But then somebody's not used to it. Oh my gosh, it's so bad. I hate going down the cleaning aisle of the supermarket. It just smells so bad. So at it is so toxic. And I understand it gets in your head, but I don't stress that you can't help it.
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Filly
Don't stress it. Just say I always have this. Now I'm safe. My body's capable. It's totally fine. Fine to get rid of crap every day in my body all the time.
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Jo
I swim only I swim a lot. And I often think about the chlorine and then I just have to block it out. I'm like, Now I'm moving my body. I love swimming. I it's. Oh, good. I saw some water the other day. My coach goes, Hey, you're right. And I'm like, Yeah, just slowly, a bit away. Like the pool.
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Jo
Is so gross, but.
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Jo
I'm not going to.
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Filly
Says Yeah, because it has healthy benefits to it as well.
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Tracey
And there's things we can do as well. You know, we've lowered our risk in so many ways. You know, you mentioned how food can be toxic to so many different parts of our body and mind, and now it can. And there are elements that are linked to cancer and beyond. So, you know, the more we can control and lower our toxic load, the less stress our body has to try and burn through these toxins that we're consuming.
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Tracey
Like our liver doesn't have to work as hard. I guess he's not working hard, adrenals not working as hot, you know, etc.. And then when we do have like, you know, something that we can't control and we are swimming in chlorine or walking through the fragrance section of my or whatever it might be, or in someone else's home.
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Tracey
And, and you know, we're eating something or we're going out to dinner and we're enjoying this delicious meal. Our body has the ability to process that because it's not overloaded like it was prior to living, you know, this lower toxic additive free lifestyle. So but it is a lifestyle. It is something that we've chosen to do and know.
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Tracey
I'm I've got a very underactive thyroid. It's been an issue since I was six years old. I've had Graves disease, I've had all sorts of things. And throughout that whole entire process until only a few years ago when I started seeing a holistic doctor, no one had spoken to me at all about fragrances or endocrine disrupting products that I was using that or anything to do with food.
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Tracey
Zero conversation around food. Actually, it was only maybe do I smoke and do I drink and those very typical GP type questions and I've seen specialists and all sorts. So and then when I went to my very first holistic GP appointment, cause I just, I'd had enough, I was done. I'm like, this is not working for me. And they weren't listening to what I was saying.
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Tracey
So by then I was living a very additive free life and I would be like, Is there anything more natural? Is there anything, you know, what else can I do? Can I find any deeper causes? And I was like, looked at like I was a weirdo and basically just laughed at almost in the medical system. So I got in my car and I'm like, There has to be a doctor in Hobart that will listen to what I'm saying and work with me and what I was telling him or her.
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Tracey
And anyway, I found this great doctor. My first appointment was one hour. You know what GP does that anymore? One hour. And he wanted to know about everything I had in my home, what chemicals I use, what cleaning products I use, if I was using fragrances, etc., etc.. Tick, tick, tick. And I was able to be like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no to all these things.
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Tracey
And when he saw my blood tests, he actually said to me, Your blood test is telling me you should actually be really sick and almost bedridden. Like this is what my my thyroid levels were telling him. But here I am sitting in his office saying I work for five ks a day. I run a business like I get tired, you know, but I'm okay.
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Tracey
Like I feel all right. And he's like, They're not matching because your lifestyle is helping you so much that your blood test is telling me a different story. And if it wasn't for the lifestyle you are living, you would actually be extremely sick. MM And that was huge for me. That was a few years ago.
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Filly
I love that too, because sometimes, like even in functional medicine as well, where is different types of tests and sometimes people can get really fixated in down on that and sometimes it doesn't actually always match the symptoms. Yeah. So it's the don't stress it again as well. It's like, yes, there are things within your control that you can do to support the healing of your body.
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Filly
Actually, there's so much within your control from a lifestyle point of view and so and which is wonderful. So the way that you feel is sometimes, look, I don't want to say like more important than what's happening inside your body, but it kind of is as well, just in terms of a overwhelm point of view.
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Tracey
Yeah. And I will also say your thyroid, as you would know, you know, plays such a crucial role in in calcium and all sorts of other functions within our body. So even though my blood tests, even though my version, my story and my blood tests weren't matching up, I still had to go on medication. But I'm on a much more natural medication because like I actually had killed my thyroid over anyway.
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Tracey
And long story. I thought my thyroid doesn't work and it's never coming back. It's dead. So there's a very minor part of it functioning and it's not enough to produce the hormones and the all the other vitamins and minerals and all the things that you have. Your thyroid is made to help you weight. So I do have to take the medication because otherwise I would end up really sick even though my body was functioning.
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Tracey
Okay, that makes sense. So you also listen to your doctor like don't just listen to your body. I guess what I'm saying, if you know, if you've got a good doctor, listen to them.
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Tracey
Also that it's not like a life sentence. It's a bit much.
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Tracey
We worked together as well on what medication we set out on a really low dose. And, you know, he was you know, he's like you say, it's oils, He's some natural therapies. You know, he's all things as well. So it wasn't just like he's a drug. Quick fix go off. See you later.
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Filly
Mhm. You know, what did.
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Jo
I tell her? I think as well is we need to drop the shame around medication as well. I think when you get into this mindset of living, this holistic lifestyle and natural lifestyle, that the minute you have to take medication that's, that becomes this shame. I've had it.
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Filly
And.
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Jo
And you almost like a resisting against No, but that's not what I'm all about. But you know what? Sometimes our body does need medication and supplements and things that we're lacking in so that we do thrive. And but I think what's really the key and Tracy, this is what you did was your first question to this natural doctor was what are the side effects?
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Jo
You know, you went on a more natural one. It wasn't just the first great tended out like there were lots of questions around it. And this is why it's so important to see people like yourself because you have this down pat where it's not just this like click script, you know? And I think that's where the shine comes from when you start living this more additive free, whatever you want to call it, lifestyle is because like, we don't want those quick Band-Aid fixes anymore.
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Jo
We do want to get to the root cause. But sometimes in order to get to the top, you need a little help along the way. Yeah. And we need to stop the shame around that as well.
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Filly
Yeah. Yeah. So you guys have created an app, which is pretty cool. So techie and you have courses, you have so many cookbooks. What are some just in terms of common foods that people are eating that have some of the worst additives in them? Like are there some foods that people are like, Oh yeah, this is fine. This is healthy.
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Filly
When actually when you look at the ingredients and you look at the research connected to those certain additives, what are your if there were like a top five.
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Jo
This is so hard to add. Like it's all.
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Filly
Like.
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Jo
What if I a hazy favourite child.
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Filly
There's so many.
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Jo
Additives that it's really hard. There's not really a top five. But if the first thing I would say is never believe the marketing on the front of a packet. So we always need to flip it over and look at the ingredients. And I think this is where people get stuck is they go, Oh, but it's healthy. Like it says it's five star rating and it's full of whole grains and, you know, whatever the marketing says on the front end, great source of fibre.
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Jo
And then you flip it over into the ingredients and it's full of yeast extract or flavour enhancer or annatto 160 B, which is a natural food colour. So I know it an answer to your question, but definitely never believe the marketing and always read the ingredients. That's your first point of call.
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Jo
And then our.
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Jo
App, if I can plug that a little bit.
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Filly
Our class will.
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Jo
Actually scan the ingredients. So you hovered over the ingredients listing, not the barcode, the ingredients listing, and then you can scan it and actually detect how many additives are in that product. And then it might say how we scan something other dials like 34 additives, you know, but it might be three additives. And then you can then read what those three additives are.
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Jo
And we've rated them from a grain safe face, grain, smiley face. There's an caution phase, and then there's a red risky face. And you can open up each additive and decide whether you want to eat that product or not. Sometimes you might want to hashtag don't stress it and have it anyway. And then other times, you know, no way.
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Jo
So do that.
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Jo
Top five additives for me would be I've got still younger kids. So for me it's definitely artificial colours. They're pretty and no go for us like they do cause still behavioural issues.
00;26;34;28 - 00;26;36;00
Jo
But I kind of.
00;26;36;00 - 00;26;59;25
Jo
Move past that because I feel like they're at an age where I can kind of deal with those behavioural issues that come up. Now for me it's about health. For me now it's I actually don't want them eating something that can possibly be linked to cancer and I want them to be healthy. The other one for me would be another 160 B So that one is a natural food colour.
00;26;59;25 - 00;27;26;27
Jo
It gives off a yellow or red hue and that's heavily linked to behavioural issues, head banging, headaches, migraines. I don't like sulphites and they can be linked to asthma. Really bad for us. And headaches actually not. They can be. They actually are. They even stated on the Food Standard Australian website that so far it's linked to asthma. An asthmatic should avoid it.
00;27;26;29 - 00;27;28;16
Filly
Yeah.
00;27;28;19 - 00;27;31;02
Jo
Two more choice.
00;27;31;04 - 00;27;34;07
Filly
So I have the two.
00;27;34;10 - 00;27;40;28
Tracey
So when I heard your question, I think he said what foods or do you additive foods.
00;27;40;28 - 00;27;44;19
Filly
As well like the sneaky foods that people wouldn't think about.
00;27;44;25 - 00;27;59;21
Tracey
The I've written down for that you might already know and then some that you might not. So a barbecue chicken from the supermarket now everyone's going to be switching off their podcast right now and going, Don't tell me I can't have a barbecue joke because, you know, I they my lifeline, right?
00;27;59;21 - 00;28;00;28
Filly
So, you know.
00;28;01;00 - 00;28;37;08
Tracey
So but if you actually look at the ingredients on a barbecue chicken and they're pretty horrendous as a rounds six depending on which one you buy versions of MSG in a barbecue chicken. So MSG can lead to restlessness irritability, sleeplessness, brain fog, headaches and so on, even heart palpitations. So when they started this many and then you might pour some gravy on the top, which is this is what I would do, I would buy barbecue chicken, I would cook some veggies, and then I'd make some gravy out of a tin, which actually has more MSJ in it.
00;28;37;09 - 00;28;55;26
Tracey
So no wonder I couldn't sleep at night. My legs would be really icky, my kids wouldn't sleep. Maybe there was a melt down or a tantrum that night, etc. So barbecue choke if you can swap them out, do so. My other one I've written down is super duper. They are horrendous. Never buy them again. I will say that bluntly.
00;28;55;27 - 00;29;01;13
Tracey
Never. That is like a that is not even a distress. It that is like adamant zero tolerance.
00;29;01;15 - 00;29;03;02
Filly
Yeah.
00;29;03;05 - 00;29;03;28
Jo
Same with.
00;29;03;28 - 00;29;10;21
Tracey
Closeness. Yeah. The coaches are no better. I hate to tell anyone. They just they had sugar in a tube. There are food colouring.
00;29;10;21 - 00;29;11;15
Tracey
And shape.
00;29;11;18 - 00;29;33;09
Tracey
And there are other choices out there for your family reps. So spinach wraps don't have spinach in them. There's one brand at the supermarket that has a very small amount of spinach, which, to be fair, is all I do when I put spinach in my homemade spinach wraps, they're not 90% spinach. You know, there is just a handful.
00;29;33;11 - 00;29;56;23
Tracey
But the major brand at the supermarket that we all see starts with an M Asian, and they don't have any spinach in the zero. They've got a spinach seasoning, so they coloured with food colours that are two food colours and I think three preservatives last time I looked. So I love the Walking Dead show and I actually make this joke quite a lot.
00;29;56;23 - 00;30;09;20
Tracey
But if, if there is a zombie apocalypse, I will actually be not stressing it and buying every mission wrap I can find because they seriously I kid you not. Last years we had a packet in my office.
00;30;09;23 - 00;30;10;07
Filly
Actually they.
00;30;10;07 - 00;30;34;05
Tracey
Were under Jo Stares for a really long time in a house for about four or five years and they still were bendy and no mould on them. Like, wow, it's actually so hilarious that we Instagrammed it quite a few times at these wraps because we use them in demonstration. So when we had a zoom or something and so instead of buying new ones every time, we just kept repurposing these wraps every time.
00;30;34;05 - 00;30;58;16
Tracey
And for years we used them like cooking shows or demonstrations that we were doing and they like it was yes. So anyway, wrap so horrendous two minute noodles. These now before that, again, a multitude. Now we know they're not a health food. I get it. Most of us know they're not a health food, but they're so full of MSG that it's actually really toxic as well.
00;30;58;18 - 00;31;12;08
Tracey
And I'm not saying this to make anyone feel bad because I've certainly fed them to my children before I understood. And the other one is and everyone is going to hate me. They are they are literally not going to listen to your podcast again, is it is also like.
00;31;12;10 - 00;31;14;28
Tracey
Oh, I see my men.
00;31;15;00 - 00;31;35;26
Tracey
Do not shoot the messenger, but the first ingredient easy to extract, which actually is has similar effects that MSG has. So yeast extract is found in a lot of things, but it is high up there on the list of ingredients in Vegemite. So if you are having issues with your children, you know we've got a jar in our pantry, right?
00;31;35;27 - 00;31;55;08
Tracey
And I think at last 99, maybe two years rather than two months. So, you know, if you can just swap things out, we use honey and jam and different things now instead of Vegemite on everything. Yeah. So yeah. So they're my five. Okay. I me all love me. I don't mind.
00;31;55;10 - 00;32;20;24
Filly
Well I so I think you did a real on the barbecue chicken because it is really okay this is not being perfect it is really just like a driving home from work. There's nothing that barbecue chicken. Let's do some wraps that I'm like, Oh, thank you. Just pulling me into that again. This one is funny, especially the green ones, because my youngest is like, Oh yeah, let's get those ones because they've got spinach in them.
00;32;20;24 - 00;32;40;16
Filly
Mum, the healthy. I'm like, No, they're actually not at all. Yeah. And Vegemite, I don't like Vegemite at all. So that is actually a product I have never looked at and it is sitting in our covered and it's probably been there for, I don't know, five years because not many people ate it. But yeah. Wow. Are you going.
00;32;40;18 - 00;32;59;00
Tracey
Yeah. So everyone's going to either love me or hate me. Seven five. If I could tell anyone to avoid those five I Look, there's millions in this system. I don't want to overwhelm anyone though, and freak anyone out. And neither does Joy. You know, like, start slow. You know, there's so many little changes and there's really simple swaps that we can make as well.
00;32;59;00 - 00;33;24;01
Tracey
So there are other brands of Vegemite type things that are out there, and you know that that's what Jo's family use. And like I said, we just swap to honey or jam. And as far as a barbecue chicken, I know that there are those moments where we haven't preplanned for a ride and I'm a mom and my kids were super mentally and after school activities and so I get it.
00;33;24;01 - 00;33;45;19
Tracey
There are those days where we're like, I'm at work all day. I haven't been cooked anything. And the phrase is empty. But there are other choices we can make on that drive home. Instead of a barbecue chicken, it could be, I mean, even, dare I say it, fish and chips, but they're not actually that great either. So. But there are other choices.
00;33;45;19 - 00;34;02;24
Tracey
I'd rather an egg on toast. To be honest, I don't have an egg on to external blend, which is what we would do now. So as far as super duper, like I said, there's numerous other icy, suppose, you know, even a plain lemonade. I suppose it is possibly better, but I need to look at all the ingredients, but possibly better.
00;34;02;27 - 00;34;24;11
Tracey
I'm sure they don't have the multitude of fruit colours and preservatives and then wraps. I mean, yeah, there are other ones. It's just finding the right one in the supermarket. So it is simple swaps and that's what we advocate for. Additive free life solids just make simple swaps, you know, things like a block of cheese, grate your cheese instead of buying pre grated cheese, you know, pre grated cheese, if you've noticed.
00;34;24;13 - 00;34;37;03
Tracey
And you'll notice it now has a white coating on it. And you like what's the white coating? And that's an anti caking agent that's made from tree pulp. So our bodies, not our trees. So you know it's.
00;34;37;03 - 00;34;39;09
Tracey
Trees at least that's natural. Natural.
00;34;39;09 - 00;34;59;23
Tracey
Well to some degree, but you know it's an anti caking agent. It's not horrendous for our body, don't get me wrong, but it's just an additive we don't need. We can avoid it really easily by grating some cheese blocker. Cheese. Tomato paste is another really simple swap. So the same brand. But if you buy it in a tube it will have preservatives.
00;34;59;23 - 00;35;17;29
Tracey
If you buy it in a glass jar, it won't. And really simple swap. So that's what we advocate for. It additive free lifestyle is just making these conscious choices and decisions. You know, where we spend our money, we work really hard for it and and things have gotten a little bit crazy in the money world at the moment in in our bank balances.
00;35;17;29 - 00;35;27;07
Tracey
But, you know, we can still be really conscious where we choose to spend our money and spending it wisely on the most nutritious, healthiest food for our families.
00;35;27;10 - 00;35;51;13
Filly
Mhm. I found for me. Okay, I didn't do the cold turkey like jury data in terms of like eating out and also back out at night. You know, as a programming, as a child that was not what not. And so therefore it's like I have to eat everything you need. I even did it with nail polish as well, but it also made it less overwhelming.
00;35;51;13 - 00;36;13;23
Filly
So it's like, cool, that's finished. That tomato paste or whatever it was is finish. What's the better choice now? And I love that you guys have an out because back in the day when I was doing this and I did it for skincare and everything else, I jumped on to actually, no, I just googled, I googled AWG dot org, which yeah.
00;36;13;25 - 00;36;43;26
Filly
And the ingredient and it took so long to find Shea to find comb every single ingredient. Sorry if there's anyone listening and you'll actually I'd actually get like to be more informed. I'd like to start making these swaps. Or maybe you have, but things have slipped a bit. How can people get access to your app? Can you tell us a little bit more about that and also how people can find you if they haven't heard about you yet and they want to learn more about what you guys do?
00;36;43;28 - 00;37;00;24
Jo
Yeah, so our app is just for food at the moment, but we do eventually want to get it to a point where it will have body care. So you just didn't want to confuse anyone there. We would love to get all the body care into it soon. So our app is available on the Apple Store or Google store.
00;37;00;24 - 00;37;21;07
Jo
It comes with a free seven day trial so you can check it out. And if you think it's not for you, you know, just cancel in the seven days and you won't be charged a thing, then it's as little as $4.20 a month, which is our cheapest package. Most people have chosen the $6 one a month. So it's like really cheap to have as a subscription as well.
00;37;21;09 - 00;37;28;14
Filly
So that's our app. Can I just say the time that is saved is so with that or $6 a month. Yeah.
00;37;28;14 - 00;37;53;10
Jo
And also you like just choosing products that like the benefit you, you know, you're not wasting money like we're all so quick to I don't know like for me, I feel like I've wasted $4 in a vending machine for the kids where I just know they're never going to get the fluffy toy that comes out of it and you quick to give them $2 each to have a game.
00;37;53;12 - 00;38;24;25
Jo
But to actually have an app that would really help. It's as little as $4 above and then it's just some little mindset thing there for some people where they like hard at one another subscription. But anyway, so really take the other one other place you can find us is our website Aditi free lifestyle dot com on Instagram and Facebook at Aditi free lifestyle as well and yeah and we're bringing back some really cool courses next year as well.
00;38;24;25 - 00;38;25;29
Jo
So if people do.
00;38;25;29 - 00;38;26;20
Jo
Want to learn.
00;38;26;20 - 00;38;31;24
Tracey
More and we have a podcast show podcast can show yeah.
00;38;31;26 - 00;38;32;19
Jo
Yeah.
00;38;32;21 - 00;38;34;19
Filly
So many good cookbooks.
00;38;34;21 - 00;38;41;09
Jo
Oh yes. And we've got four cookbooks with the fifth one coming, which is a gluten free one that's due to come out soon.
00;38;41;11 - 00;39;07;16
Filly
That is so exciting. Yeah, awesome. Well, thank you so much, Tracy and Joy, for coming on our podcast. I'm sure all our listeners have got so much value about they around this topic and I don't reckon you've set anyone off. And if you have, then you know that's okay. All right. Well, thank you so much. Have an awesome day, everybody.
00;39;07;18 - 00;39;12;10
Jo
Thank you.
00;39;12;13 - 00;39;22;15
Filly
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Chris
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