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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending Body Burn Out Show where your hosts Chris and Filly co-founders of multi award winning Functional Medicine Practice, serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
Well, busyness, overworking, addictive, doing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
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Filly
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Chris
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Chris
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Filly
Yeah. So we're actually going to be talking about perfectionism today and how it affects our body systems if you're running a perfectionism pattern. So first of all, what what is it? I mean, most people throw that term around basically perfectionism is all about always striving to be perfect. So when you're running this pattern, you are always trying to do things perfect.
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Filly
Nothing ever feels like what you do is good enough. You don't ever feel like you're good enough, so you end up overdoing staying busy and never really reaching the goal post, which is a recipe for body burnout. So people think some people think that perfectionism is actually having a higher standards. Oh, I'm a perfectionist. I have exceptional high standards.
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Filly
But the thing is, perfectionism actually means you have no standards at all. So there's no goalposts, there's no personal signal to say, Oh, when you get here, you've done a great job, you've done enough, you can stop now. That post is always moving ahead of you and you can never quite catch up to it. Therefore, perfectionism actually means you have no standards at all.
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Chris
That's in sync. A lot of times I get into what I know now as a perfectionism cycle or run that strategy and I think when I'm less intentional, when when I don't come in with an intention and a clearly well-formed outcome in mind and dedicated time to to to do the thing or to be the be the person, you know, I just don't underst not clear.
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Chris
I'm not clear on what is what I'm going to expect from myself, what I'm going to expect from the thing that I'm doing, and that can show up as just constant tinkering, doing and and and perfection.
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Filly
Maybe we'll give us some examples of both, like how it's showing up or maybe still pops up from time to time for both of us. So you're just tinkering. Oh my goodness. Sometimes with the landing page that we're creating for the website, Chris does a lot of that for us without air. But I'm just like, Chris, it's great.
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Filly
It's perfect. And you do these beautiful slides and he's like, this picture or this picture or this picture or this picture, and he's got like ten different versions that all pretty much look the same. And then like, they all look good. Just that one.
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Chris
Yeah. And then what's.
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Filly
And then we're like, What's underneath all.
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Chris
About. I think it's a yeah. So in that, in that instance it wasn't so much of perfectionism, it was a lack of intention, intentional clarity at the start going into the, into the activity or the task. But also a prioritisation and an overvaluing of external validation and, and less of a value on internal validation and, and self-worth as it applies to, to that thing or that task.
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Chris
And I think that that shows up under the broad categories of perfectionism.
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Filly
Hmm. Definitely. For me in the past, like I'm thinking as a teenage uni years, perfectionism showed up academically for me. I was never happy if I got anything less than an A, even an A-minus was a bit like, Oh, what the heck. And so that drove this pattern of overdoing being over studying or even thinking, tinkering with every little word in my essay or whatever I was doing.
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Filly
I actually loved exams, but it was because I did a bucket load of preparation before it. I memorised if I was going in and there were potential three questions to write an essay. I memorised three different essays so that if I got that question I would just like I know exactly how to write Holy.
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Chris
Smokes or I was always maxed out at knowing that there was an actual exam on at that day.
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Filly
And so for me, like that caused so much nervous system dysregulation to the point that I was having vessel vagal episodes, fainting, having weird fits, pacing myself, develops PCOS infertility later on. Well I'll probably had that as I had PCOS but didn't realise I had infertility too. We started having a baby, got issues and then are all these physical symptoms started popping up and the more I have untangled those patterns, that doesn't show up very often in work anymore.
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Filly
Like I am happy to slap together something that is pretty good, that is authentic or true and you know, like, cool, that's great. However, I've been really maybe because I knew we were doing this podcast and this this three day live event that's coming up all about body burnout and perfectionism. And I've just been looking like, are there still any subtle ways that I'm still showing up with perfectionism patterns?
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Filly
So this past month I've been doing well training actually, but in the process doing work on myself around trauma and my mentor said, okay, you have to listen to this. It's kind of like a meditation or I guess, dynamic re-imagining, recording every day, every day before I see you next. And I'm like, Yep, that's okay. I can do that first time round.
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Filly
I miss a day and right before my next appointment with my mentor, I'm listening to this meditation in the shower as I'm getting changed. Even though it wasn't perfect, like the conditions weren't perfect because really I wanted to be closing my eyes and immersed in the experience. Then I'm like, No, I said I was going to do it every day, so I am going to force listening to this recording while I'm doing the shower.
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Filly
I know that the results aren't going to be as good, but as long as I do it and then I even felt a bit guilty when she said, How did you go with that recording? And I'm like, Yeah, yeah, yep, I missed a day, but I did it this morning. It wasn't the best. So it was almost like I had to justify why I hadn't done it every day, as opposed to I could have just woken up being like, Oh, I missed a day.
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Filly
That's so good. I feel really good with where I'm at. I'm getting great results and awesome. I did it 95% perfect.
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Chris
It has a pace around self permission theirs and they're really giving yourself permission to to show off intentionally. You could have gone you could have viewed that experience a couple of different ways. Hey like you're you're you know I'm not being a perfectionist because I'm I'm going to do this in a less than optimal way. I'm going to do it in the shower.
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Chris
And so therefore, it's like proving to yourself that it's not perfect. But then really, like you could have also just skipped the shower meditation, the less effective one in the first place. And yeah, not, not put that heat, that stress and that opinion of expectation upon yourself in the first place. Yeah.
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Filly
And I feel like the opinion of the expectation is where perfectionism can creep in, because I remember talking to a client actually, and she did not self-identify herself as a perfectionist. She's like, no, like a teacher. So she always felt like she didn't ever do a very good job. She always felt like the other teachers, staff members were kind of judging her and she kind of felt a bit sloppy and unmotivated and like she didn't put out very good work.
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Filly
But for her, when we break it down, I'm like, Well, well, what's what's the standard like? What's the standard for you to know when you have when you have achieved something that you're happy with? And she's like, I don't have one. So therefore she was actually running a perfectionism pattern because she was feeling judged all the time. She was feeling like she was never good and she was never a good enough teacher.
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Filly
She felt like she could never live up to the expectations of the teachers, and therefore her energy drove a perfectionism pattern. If that makes sense. It's usually like the energy. It's almost coming from a place of fear or force.
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Chris
Hmm.
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Filly
So. So then going back to my original story, round two of this, listening to a recording every day again, over the course of seven days, I missed one day. I had a really long day of consults. I came home and you know what kind of you wanted to watch Netflix? I've been I've been talking to people all day, which I love.
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Filly
I love talking to my clients, but then I kind of just wanted to zone out. And so I chose Netflix over listening to my homework recording. And when I caught up with my mentor, the energy was completely different. Unlike when I listened to it throughout the week, I was there, I was present, I was loving it. I embodied this experience of what I was doing the day I missed.
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Filly
Yeah, I just wanted to flex and that was okay for me. And so I knew then that that perfectionism pattern wasn't showing up because the because I felt relaxed in myself.
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Chris
Mm hmm.
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Filly
Perfectionism show of in hate. So A's work health is quite common, too. Like, we do get a lot of clients. There's usually two camps a clients, one camp clients. They're like, I'm not doing any of the things I should be doing. The other camp, the clients that I'm doing, all the things I'm eating healthy, I'm living, having amazing sleep schedule.
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Filly
I have no toxins in my life, but they're running a perfectionism pattern because they feel like even that their perfect organic diet is never enough because they still have health issues, so they must still be doing something wrong. So they have to do it 110%. So again, it's the it's the energy. Do you feel like hearing flow when you're doing the things that you want to do?
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Filly
Do you feel like you're relaxed as you do it? Do you feel like you can put your head on the pillow at night time and go to sleep, happy with what you've done that day and who you are? Or is your mind still racing? Because it's like, Oh, I've got this and this and this and this to do.
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Filly
And I finally I'd said that just differently to that person. When I was talking to that person. So, yeah.
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Chris
Have have you ever, have you ever done this like just spend time just looking at somebody in the eyes.
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Filly
We just kissed.
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Chris
Look at look at me for a second.
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Filly
So, yes, I'm looking at you.
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Chris
Okay. Just like look. And don't make any facial expressions. No smiling, just like look. And then you just just be there, just looking into the eyes and you just see what comes up as you as you do that. And. And don't verbalise it. Just just notice it coming up and and time. Yeah So so sometimes that's torture for some people to look into.
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Chris
I've got a point that that's torture sometimes for for people to to look into somebody else's eyes. I love Phyllis. I think she's beautiful. She attracts me, she motivates me. It's easy for me to look into her eyes. Let me swap her out for, say, one of my mates like a first person that comes to my mind.
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Filly
My father in law. Barbara.
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Chris
Oh, I was going to get a brother in law. I thought I would find it easier to do it with your dad. Okay, then.
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Filly
That's quite relaxed doing so.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Filly
Darren might get freaked out.
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Chris
Yes. So.
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Filly
So, Joe. Darren.
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Chris
Sally's sister's husband. Anyway, you know, I just think about doing this with a mate. It would be like, smirks. It would be awkward. But I feel like those reactions come from a place of insecurity, You know, Especially I find doing this with a blokey bloke. With the blokey bloke, the insecurity is I don't want to come across as I don't want to be gay, you know, like it might be that sort of like just for the split second might come in, or if I do it with another girl or something, or I don't want them to think I like them or, and these just thoughts just happen instantly sometimes.
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Chris
Like let's swap out the looking into somebody eyes. Sometimes when we look at ourselves in the mirror or in our minds, eyes, mirror, we can feel insecure with what we see. And so, you know, we might If I was to look into a person's eyes, we might like to have anything in my teeth. Is my face enough? Did I brush my hair?
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Chris
Is my beard oil? How did I oil? My beard is my beard all scraggly, blah blah blah blah blah. Insecurity about my appearance. Sometimes we can have those insecurities about our behaviour and what we're doing and and we just can't look at ourselves in our mind's eye without this insecure, uncomfortable feeling. And that shows up as activity and doing this.
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Chris
And and I think my, my point is perfectionism is the label, but what's underneath that label is kind of like an end of a Scooby Doo episode where they unmask the bad guy. What's underneath what's underneath that, um, that perfectionism. And I think it's an insecurity. Yeah, most always.
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Filly
Yeah. And I would talk about core beliefs in Insecure but just backtracking as well, which actually is a line so self-esteem in NLP neuro linguistic programming, we talk about different meta programs that people are running. So sometimes metaphorically better programs are the best combination of behavioural or thought patterns that show up. So a middle program, for example, is self-esteem, and you might have high self-esteem or low self-esteem, like you're running a mate, a program that's high or that's low.
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Filly
So if it's a low self-esteem program, there's a belief that you must earn the right to be worthy. So when you have that low self-esteem, you don't actually believe that you're just intrinsically worthy and and enough, which we all are, because we were all born as pure potential clean slates. And so and so self-esteem can get confused with self-worth because often people feel good about themselves.
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Filly
So we have clients too, so successful, like multi-millionaires who feel like I'm good because I've created X amount of money, or look at the award that I want or look at the family that I've created. Whatever it is. However, that self esteem is only ever conditional if you have low self-esteem. So it's like, if I do this or I have this, then I'm good enough and I'm worthy.
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Filly
Now the thing is, if you're running like an unconscious or conscious low self-esteem at a program, then you always feel like you're on this treadmill tread wheel of achievement and doing and trying to prove and gather evidence that your worth via what you do or what you have rather than intrinsically owning that. And he got really tiring because then and that's where health issues show up.
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Filly
So thinking about some of the clients who well on the outside, yeah, they do look like they're completely successful and and you would think that they would think pretty good about themselves but their body showing up with weird health issues because inside unconsciously they actually have core beliefs that they aren't good enough in some way. And that's the thing.
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Filly
So core beliefs ingrained in our unconscious state drives everything. These beliefs drive our thoughts and our feelings and our behaviours and eventually our health symptoms and even the functioning of our body systems. So these are stored in our unconscious state, which makes up 95% of our mind and it's wiring our brain and our nervous system. So maybe I'll share a story so this is a bit of a combination of lots of people to protect privacy, but we've had quite a lot of clients running perfectionism patterns.
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Filly
So always doing, always achieving, but never feeling like what she did or what she achieved was enough. So over the course of years, accumulating more education, more jobs, even on days off, felt really fight or flight. And so so here she was going up the ladder of of her career yet that didn't even feel good enough. So on her days off, she still was left with this empty void of I'm still not good enough.
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Filly
And so then she'd start feeling in her hours with housework, lots and lots of housework, cleaning every single window, every tile on the floor got marked. And of course, like there was no rest or recovery period for her. So over time she developed anxiety, got issues, food allergies, skin issues, PMS, and there was actually underneath all of that an underlying belief that she was unlovable.
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Filly
And this really stemmed from her upbringing and never really feeling like her dad celebrated her efforts or her achievements. And as a little girl, these unconscious, dysfunctional beliefs got locked in the unconscious state and caused these patterns to occur, which then caused the health issues to occur. So it's super like we see this pattern, really common common pattern with people who have experienced trauma as well, because trauma or it doesn't even have to be big trauma to despair, distressing events, something that was stressful at the time made you feel unsafe.
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Filly
Whether that was physically or emotionally, and then bang, dysfunctional, self-limiting beliefs locked into the unconscious state.
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Chris
It's almost always in an opinion issue and it's always internal distress. And with where that stress comes from, it can be as many different reasons and ways. But but I often think what's stressing you out and the end the the the question the answer to that question is like what? What's what am I choosing to let stress me out?
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Chris
What am I what am I choosing? What am I? What am I allowing to stress me out right now? Or what am I? What am I choosing to to not look in the eye? What am I choosing to to look away from? What am I choosing to mask? What am I choosing to avoid and why? That's why I think it all comes down to some sort of insecure, unsafe, fear based strategy that shows up in the category of of perfectionism or doing.
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Filly
Hmm. Okay. So if you're listening so far and you're not resonating with perfectionism patterns and everything we've said so far, I want to just, I guess, switch focus now to the physical. So how does perfectionism and the stress that comes from that actually start breaking down different body systems? So in our practice, we look at the whole self.
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Filly
We're looking not just at the physical body, but all the other bodies of you. You're mental emotional body, your energetic body, your unconscious body, your spiritual body, because it's all connected. And these other non-physical bodies are absolutely affecting your body systems. So let's talk about the adrenals. So adrenal fatigue and then also gut health and how perfectionism plays out or plays a role in actually damaging and burning out these body systems.
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Filly
So we'll talk about adrenal glands first. So let's just say you have a core dysfunctional belief that you're weakening, capable. Well, that and it was locked in before the age of seven when something happened to you and you had to make some sort of meaning about that. And you're like, oh, yes, Well, when I couldn't get up on the stage and share my talk with 100 people and instead burst out crying, that must mean that I'm somehow incapable that there's something wrong with me.
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Filly
So then there is those beliefs in the unconscious state. It's pretty much like a tiger chasing you. 24 seven It's like you're not good enough. You're going to be found out soon. You got to work harder, you got to do more. You got to cover this insecurity about yourself. And then this belief starts leading to behaviour and a lifestyle that doesn't allow you to rest and recover or to have connection with yourself.
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Filly
All possibly others as well. So behaviour patterns, well, perfectionism, we talked about that before you like you're doing, doing, doing. Nothing's ever good enough. Your mind can't ever stop. You keep tinkering away with things. There's a lot of fear and force coming from it that often leads to a lifestyle where you're over prioritising work or the things that you do.
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Filly
Definitely not prioritising rest or recovery and highly likely not prioritising yourself because you're constantly trying to make sure that everyone outside of you thinks that you've got your stuff together. And so and then that's essentially like breaking rapport with yourself as well because you're trying to get external validation for other people rather than validating your own worth. So over time, your adrenals pushing out all these stress hormones, cortisol, DHEA and at some point your body can only produce so much for so long, and at some point those hormones will start to deflate.
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Filly
And that's when someone goes into adrenal fatigue. And that's often where you start feeling energy issues. Burnout comes along. It can affect your mental health, your immune system, your physical body in terms of body pain, hormones. And then often as these symptoms come along, then you start attributing or acquiring other behavioural patterns. So then you're going for the caffeine or sugar to try and pep you up or a wine at night to wind you down.
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Filly
That's putting more fizzy cool pressure on your adrenal glands to the point that those little those little adrenal glands just kind of like conk out like. So I think it's pretty I think most people would understand how running this perfectionism pattern would affect your adrenals because of the stress that it puts onto your body. What about the gut?
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Filly
So how does perfectionism and stress break down the gut? And I want to talk about a few digestive organs, including Secretary IGA, leaky gut and your other digestive organs. So I would say like three main health issues that we see in our practice with body burn out of energy, mood and gut issues, because it's pretty uncommon, like it's very, very common to see gut issues arise in perfectionism and overwhelm.
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Filly
So in a stressed state, especially if you're now in adrenal fatigue, cortisol breaks down the gut in three major ways. So if you're overproducing cortisol and at some point it's starting to played this cortisol oil is really catabolic. So it literally starts breaking down your organs. So one way that cortisol breaks down the gut is that it switches you from this lovely parasympathetic nervous system state.
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Filly
So that's the relaxed state where you can rest and digest. And then in this stressed state you're going to switch over into the sympathetic nervous system. So in this state you're actually not able to rest and digest. This also means you can't break down foods as well, and this can damage digestive organs. So things like, you know, your stomach will stop being able to produce stomach acid effectively.
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Filly
Your gallbladder will start struggling to produce bile, and that will probably lead to sludgy bile or gallstone ins. Your pancreas isn't producing digestive enzymes very effectively now. Sorry. So not only are you having those issues, but you're not breaking down foods because you don't have the digestive juices there to do it. And this causes fermentation in the gut and it allows nasty bacteria, parasites, Candida to grow out of control.
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Chris
Before you go on to the second one, just an analogy, a language analogy. When it comes to the gut, think of the term gutless. What does that mean? It means fear. It means stress, anxiety, insecurity. And when you have the guts, you have confidence, you're secure. And and a lot of times the symptoms we we are experiencing are signs of an unconscious or subconscious communication from from our body, highlighting or signifying a need that's not being met.
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Chris
So when we have got issues, sometimes it's helpful to to think of the language around that. So gutless what's what's happening in here? I'm insecure in some way. I'm afraid of something. There's a stress, there's an opinion that I'm prioritise being and it's ruling my whole system a like a like looking at the language of symptomology and, and, and exploring what that could mean metaphorically and also subconsciously.
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Filly
And also to physically. We have so many receptors in our gut. So, so when you, when you feel nervous, a lot of people say, Oh, I've got butterflies in my belly, or you might feel like you're feeling love. And it's like, Oh, I feel butterflies fluttering in my valley. Or actually I. Child wake up quiet, anxious. The other morning she.
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Chris
Said, You're sick.
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Filly
And she's like, I need to vomit my guts. Don't feel well. So we often feel emotion in our gut. And and it's not just metaphorical. It's literally because we also have heaps of receptors in there that are signalling, sending signals up to our brain.
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Chris
Okay. And then and then when people ignore those signals for long enough, it's just like, you know, those in Australia. Anyway, there's those wrong way. Turn back those big red signs. You ignore those signs for long enough. You're going to crash.
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Filly
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Chris
From, from experience, I just driven down the wrong way in Sydney a couple of times.
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Filly
And Launceston, Tasmania and I.
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Chris
Think sometimes like, you know, you might head off down the wrong way unintentionally and then all of a sudden he's like Holy Cross keys. I totally am on the wrong side of the road. I'm going to crash. And that's like life. Sometimes we head down the wrong path, wrong way, go back. We ignore that for long enough. So crash burn.
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Filly
Yeah. Which is often why people develop more and more either like different symptoms or more intensity of their symptoms. I mean, we have we do get a lot of people come to us, they're like, Oh, that's been ten years now. And it's just getting worse and worse and worse. I put off trying to get help because I just thought I'd give it time to see if it got better.
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Filly
But it hasn't got better. It's just gotten worse. And the body is literally at this point screaming at you that one, something is wrong in your body systems. But deeper than that, there is a deep inner misalignment with yourself that is driving this pattern. And I am not okay with that any more. So I'm going to use pain to get your attention.
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Filly
Okay. So a second way that we often see perfectionism and the stress that that brings it break down the gut is to do with your secretary. I g a So this is the immune response in your gut lining. It's also the immune response in all yours to soft mucosal tissue. So in your sinuses, your throat, your lungs, your bladder, vagina for women and it's pretty much your first line of defence.
00;33;03;27 - 00;33;37;21
Filly
So it's it's it's keeping out nasty pathogens from bay and your stress hormone cortisol. So if you're running this perfectionism pattern producing too much cortisol now and adrenal fatigue, it literally suppresses Secretary IGA. And this means that you and now susceptible to picking up pathogens to grow inside your gut, or sometimes you can even have just a bacteria or yeast microbes that belong in your gut.
00;33;37;21 - 00;34;22;12
Filly
But now they're opportunistic given the right environment, because your immune system isn't keeping everything at bay. And so that's why people can develop a whole heap of overgrowth, of nasty things in their gut and also be more prone to picking up infections in other areas of their body. And that's why a lot of people suffering from dishes due to stress can experience things like brain fog and anxiety and more aches and pains because these not only is someone usually an adrenal fatigue causing issues, but also these pathogens are very inflammatory and they can systemically cause issues outside of the gut as well.
00;34;22;15 - 00;34;50;03
Filly
Okay. Third way that the gut breaks down when there's perfectionism patterns. So stress again, particularly cortisol, puts you into a catabolic state. So when your body actually and catabolic state means that your body is actually eating away at muscle tissue and pulling on minerals from the bone. So it's almost like you're not producing energy optimally, effectively, functionally anymore in your body.
00;34;50;05 - 00;35;18;11
Filly
Instead, good stress is actually pulling on nutrients from your, you know, tissues in order to give you energy. So it's almost like you're cannibalising yourself and being in this state can definitely lead to a whole heap of issues, including leaky gut. So the easiest way for your for cortisol to pull on amino acids is within your gut lining.
00;35;18;11 - 00;35;37;21
Filly
And I've done I remember a few stool tests with some clients where it's just like, Oh wow, everything else looks pretty. Why the heck if you've got such bad leaky gut, there's no pathogens, there's no other digestive organs out of whack. What the heck is going on? Then we cross over to the adrenal test and it's like you are in stage three adrenal fatigue.
00;35;37;21 - 00;35;52;01
Filly
So literally, stress has eaten away at your gut lining. It's not gluten, it's not candida, it's the stress and the patterns that you're running that is actually producing this stress.
00;35;52;01 - 00;36;28;08
Chris
Let's look at that language for a second. What's eating away at you? What's what's eating away at you is eating away at you metaphorically, something that you've been holding on to and not letting go of Is is eating away at you. It's eating away at you from the inside. And sometimes when we explore that as a concept in coaching, we find some really interesting, interesting data that can be reviewed.
00;36;28;10 - 00;36;42;16
Chris
And I'm not I'm not saying that every every symptom is a sign from your unconscious, but in coaching, at least in my experience, you.
00;36;42;16 - 00;36;46;01
Filly
Actually would like, say every symptom is a sign from the ankle.
00;36;46;01 - 00;37;12;19
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm probably going to say in coaching, I've found that it's more helpful to start there. So if you feel like you've got if after you do answers and lab testing and all that sort of stuff and we find that there is, say, pathogens eating you out from the inside in your gut. A neat coaching question to start with is like aura, what's eating at you?
00;37;12;26 - 00;37;20;01
Chris
Um start starting there as a first question is a really interesting one that yields interesting data.
00;37;20;07 - 00;37;45;07
Filly
Yeah. So that's a cool segway. Like how, how can you, how can you fix I don't know if that's the right way and how can you reprogramme rebalance all of this. So I'm going to do a little plug for the ending body burn out method. Doors are open at the moment if you want. If you actually quite enjoying this conversation and you're like, Oh, this sounds interesting is a different way that I haven't ever looked at my body burn out and my health issues.
00;37;45;10 - 00;38;06;01
Filly
Doors are open until the 29th of August. We also next week have a three day live event where you get Chris and I for three days to coach you to. Yeah, there's going to be like so many practical downloads and stuff to help you get to and identify your root cause and create an action plan for healing. Yeah, sorry.
00;38;06;04 - 00;38;34;18
Filly
So the way that we would address these body system imbalances is physical symptoms and patterns that are actually causing them is we take a holistic approach. So we always start with answers and that's where we run a bunch of lab tests. We poo occasionally blood. These tests go far beyond what GP and medical specialist tests for, and they look at some really important body systems that are actually causing symptoms to arise.
00;38;34;21 - 00;38;54;20
Filly
This is great. Like so many clients are being like, Oh my goodness, I've been to this doctor and this doctor. All the labs are fine, but holy smokes, when we do a bunch of your functional medicine lab tests, there's so much going on and people cry tears of relief because they're now then now they think, one, it's not just in their head.
00;38;54;26 - 00;39;26;05
Filly
Yeah. And two, now we can actually do something about it. So that's always step one. And step two is the big question. Why? Like why did these body systems burn out in the first place? Because we could throw you a bunch of lovely lab based supplements in a diet, and you may feel good while you're doing it, but if you're not addressing the deeper root causes as to why the body systems burnt out in the first place, then your symptoms are going to pop up again, either the same symptoms or your body will send you a new combination of symptoms.
00;39;26;07 - 00;39;58;13
Filly
It will happen. And so we work with clients to address both physical and metaphysical inflammation. So really looking at, all right, well, what's where's your environment? What are you putting into your body? Let's let's change that so that we're assisting physical healing, but then metaphysical, deep root healing is a signature part of our functional medicine process that no other functional medicine practice in the world is doing.
00;39;58;13 - 00;40;42;06
Filly
And this is why I believe we have the best functional medicine practice in at least Australia. And so we're looking deep into the unconscious state reprogramming beliefs. We use different trauma therapies well for people who are stuck in the fight, flight trauma, brain loop and helping to regulate your nervous system. It's so beautiful. The beautiful part of our process to talking about perfectionism is it's perfect for perfectionists because our process focuses more on being rather than doing all the way that I used to practice before Chris came on board.
00;40;42;06 - 00;41;08;21
Filly
Was he ago? He's a treatment plan. Do this, do this, do this, don't do this, this, this. And that's the way that most functional medicine practitioners naturopathy, nutritionists practice. They just give you a bunch of things to do and not to do. But what we've found is that people either couldn't do the things because they were unconscious self-sabotage going on or the people that were really good at following treatment plans followed the treatment plan.
00;41;08;28 - 00;41;20;23
Filly
They were so still stuck in perfectionism patterns. They were still producing a whole heap of stress in their body anyway. And so so if you're listening.
00;41;20;23 - 00;41;24;21
Chris
So it was toxic, right? And it was it becomes toxic. And so that's fed.
00;41;24;22 - 00;41;40;04
Filly
The issue that the reason why someone developed body system imbalances in the first place and it was fading. This perception and exam pattern of I have to be perfect to get the results, to get the thing so that I can feel good about myself.
00;41;40;05 - 00;42;11;02
Chris
You create this this environment, this physical, have all the the the light, the best labs, the best purifiers, the best this and the best light source, the best organic ingredients and all that sort of stuff. But in your the metaphysical realm of, of, of your, your existence is toxic as creating this this environment inside you that that inflames you.
00;42;11;04 - 00;42;35;16
Filly
And like a couple of like real life examples is sometimes some people are so fixated on toxins in the environment. Don't get me wrong, we live in a toxic world. It is probably more toxic than it ever has been and it is absolutely contributing to health issues. However, sometimes people get into state such a state of this. Is it the toxins?
00;42;35;16 - 00;42;57;06
Filly
I need to clear, the toxins I need to detox, I need to clear it all out. I can't go to this place or, this place or, you know, and they just get it's fee. It's fee based. And I see that with food as well, where it's just like I have to eat perfectly. I have reactions to 30 different foods and I pull them off and like they're all good, healthy foods.
00;42;57;06 - 00;43;11;06
Filly
It's like, you don't have to be scared of them. We just need to work out why and eventually, sooner rather than later. Are you going to be able to eat them again? But that perfectionism pattern will.
00;43;11;08 - 00;43;24;03
Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending Body Burn Out Show, where your hosts, Chris and Filly, co-founders of multi award winning Functional Medicine Practice, serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
00;43;24;04 - 00;43;32;08
Filly
Well, busyness, overworking, addictive doing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
00;43;32;14 - 00;43;45;06
Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
00;43;45;06 - 00;43;58;18
Filly
So get ready to heal your body, get your spot back deeply, connect with yourself and step into the life of your dreams. Let's dive in.
00;43;58;21 - 00;44;42;16
Chris
Great guys, and welcome to the ending Body Burnout show. Before we get into the episode, just want to do an and announcement that doors are open for the ending body burn out method and we only open the doors a couple of times a year. So just letting you know there are limited spaces available if you're keen to finally get to the root cause of your body, burn out and heal your whole self for lasting results, then apply to secure a spot in our ending body burn out method doors are open now until the 29th of August, so get in on our hugely discounted beater prices.
00;44;42;18 - 00;45;07;19
Chris
Prices will pretty much double next time and and end as a part of the doors being open. We are running a free three day live beat body burn and perfectionism event kicking off next week, the 22nd of August. So stay tuned for that and let's roll this episode.
00;45;07;22 - 00;45;32;01
Filly
Yeah. So we're actually going to be talking about perfectionism today and how it affects our body systems. If you're running a perfectionism pattern. So first of all, what what is it? I mean, most people throw that term around basically perfectionism is all about always striving to be perfect. So when you're running this pattern, you are always trying to do things perfect.
00;45;32;01 - 00;45;50;08
Filly
Nothing ever feels like what you do is good enough. You don't ever feel like you're good enough, so you end up overdoing staying busy and never really reaching the goal post, which is a recipe for body burnout. So people think some people think that perfectionism.
