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Filly
Hello? It's Filly from the ending Body Burn Out show. Before we get into today's episode, just want to do a quick announcement that Doors are open for our ending body burn out method. We only open doors a few times a year and right now they are open until the 29th of August. So if you're keen to finally get to the root, root cause of your body, burn out and heal your whole self or bodies of yourself for lasting results, then go down to the show.
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Filly
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Filly
We're kicking that off next week, so go down to the Shownotes and register for that one. You definitely don't want to miss the three day live event you're going to get Chris and I eyeballs on your cases coaching it, helping you to identify the deepest root cause of your body, burn out and create a really implementable action plan to heal your body.
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Chris
Hello and welcome to the Ending Body Burn Out Show, where your hosts, Chris and Filly co-founders of multi award winning Functional Medicine Practice, serving busy people with energy mood and got issues.
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Filly
Well, busyness, overworking, addictive doing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root, root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue. Doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
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Filly
So get ready to heal your body, get your spot back deeply, connect with yourself and step into the light of your dreams. Let's dive in. So today on the podcast, Chris and I spoke to the beautiful Laini old food you guys are going to love her. Laini is a mum of 5 and founder of STACKD Blends Co and the No fuss Nourished Method.
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Filly
So she's coached tens of thousands of people and how to harness the power of nutrition to feel amazing through her flagship free challenges. The whole food my family the supercharged smoothie boot camp which is running at the end of August and the fibre challenge. So Laini has a particular love for helping parents learn easy ways to get their kids eating healthier.
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Filly
I think we all want to learn a bit of that without them even knowing. Through her monthly coaching membership, she has unconventional oils, smoothies, Lainey is obsession and she's developed her own range of smoothie booster blends designed to target specific health goals and provide a complete and balanced meal with maximum nutrition, as well as lots of other whole food blends to make life easier when she's not with her own family or coaching other families, you probably find her at the beach.
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Filly
I know that you're absolutely going to love Laini. We've known Laini for a long time. I was a long, long time fan girl through socials until I met her in person last year, which was super exciting. She shares vulnerably her own body burn out story, which she is still navigating, and we get into the nitty gritty of using food as medicine and we will be chatting about all things smoothies and healing the body with food.
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Filly
So I'm so excited to share this episode with you.
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Chris
All right. Well, thanks for coming on to the ending Body Burn Out show. Pretty stoked to have you on your good friend of ours.
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Filly
And we love you.
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Laini
I love you guys, too.
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Filly
Actually, no, I was going to say I was definitely a fan girl before I actually met you for real. Whereas Chris grew up with you kind of when you were older, growing up.
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Chris
Wow. Yeah. So we lived sort of near each other.
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Filly
Yeah, But I.
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Chris
Guess in mutual circles and all that sort of stuff.
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Laini
Yeah. My husband Jordan was friends with. Yeah, Yeah. Football, road trip you guys took down to Melbourne?
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Chris
Oh, yeah. Oh, so, dude, Laini, your husband and I. Yeah, we would hope it up. We're good. Good basketball buddies and then good buddies off the court as well.
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Laini
Yeah. So good.
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Chris
For West. So to have you on and we share a common interest in, in nutrition and health. So it's going to be fun to dive into some questions, getting to know you a bit more. But maybe before we ask questions, I guess the first question could be tell us more about you so our listeners can know why we like you so much.
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Laini
Hahaha. All right. So my name is Laini I with my husband Jordan. We have five kids. We live here on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland and you're going to hear a lot about my personal story today. So I kind of feel like you're going to get to know me as we go along.
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Filly
Yeah, well, let's just be honest.
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Laini
I heard this podcast. Gosh, what is her name that she has, you know, millions of followers. She's the speaker on vulnerability and burnout. Everyone knows who she was.
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Chris
It Brené Brown.
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Laini
That's her. I was listening to a talk by her the other day and she said that after her very first talk on vulnerability, she had this post vulnerability crash the next day. Anyway, she just regretted everything she said, and I feel like I may have one of those tomorrow, but I do feel like this message needs to be shared.
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Laini
And if I can be part of that, then fantastic.
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Filly
You so good. That is one thing that I love about you. You're just real and authentic when you show up to the world. So let's dive into your personal story then. So our podcast is all about ending Body burn, and I think you've had your own experience. Hey.
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Laini
Yes, I have.
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Chris
Tell us more.
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Laini
So I'm so sorry. I'll jump straight in.
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Chris
Yeah, Yeah. Go bum dive.
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Laini
All right. So I guess as a pre as as a little bit of an introduction, I guess the way that I got into nutrition and Whole Foods and using food as medicine was basically when I kids were born. And I think that's a pretty common story for parents when they start cleaning up what they ate is because they can say that they want the food that they're feeding their kids to actually contribute to their health rather than damage it.
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Laini
So, you know, we were on a pretty tight budget at the time. I was a stay at home mom. Jordan was the full time student. And so we got pretty creative with our income. And when we had students renting a granny flat downstairs and all sorts of things, one of the creative ways that we made more room in the budget was I bought, I would buy in bulk and I kind of took that next level and I arranged for a literal ton of coconut oil to be imported from Sri Lanka.
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Laini
And I think that, you know, you guys will probably see that as a little bit of a red flag of my tendencies and a bit of a foreshadowing of what's to come in our conversation. But I kind of when I do something, I go all in. And so, you know, of course, you can't go through a ton of coconut oil.
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Laini
So I put the word out and people would join the the buying group and, you know, source their coconut oil from me. And it was kind of then that our business was born and that business was like this online community of people who would access high quality food for for less. We don't have that business anymore. It's not a plug.
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Laini
But we we added more products to the range and then built a website. And, you know, pretty soon we ran like a monthly co-op from our garage with the babies strapped to my chest, as would pack orders. And honestly, I was just learning as I was running, I didn't understand much about the importance of organic food or our, you know, the additives and chemical inputs into our food.
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Laini
It was actually our customers who would ultimately teach me all of this because of the products that they would request. They would choose things like sulphur free apricots or vegetable oil, free sultanas. And I'd have to research, you know, why do they want this to be learning on their own? And so what happens when you do that enough is that you build enough knowledge that actually drives you to make more nutritious choices, I guess.
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Laini
And so eventually, as we grew, we, you know, we got we engaged this panel of of, you know, renowned experts on the field. So you know, toxins and gut health and additives. And it became almost a daily practice to consult them on, you know, this ingredient. You know, we'd have suppliers approaching us saying, hey, can we sell our product from your store?
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Laini
And I'd approach them and say, look, these are the ingredients. What do you think? We look at spec sheets, we talk to the manufacturer would do all this stuff and it would just blow my mind. The greenwashing that was happening in the health industry, you know, these health products that would be marketed had all these healthy sounding names like Rosemary Extract and all these like lovely natural flavours, all these things that people well, meaning moms and dads buying for their family, thinking that they, you know, doing the best they can for their family.
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Laini
And it just it just kind of created this drive in me to bring awareness so that people could make informed choices. I'm not about perfection. Like, yes, I will still sometimes have foods that have additives or rosemary extract, but at least I know when I'm eating it and therefore can manage our toxic load, so to speak, right? Yeah.
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Laini
Yeah. And so I've also got a mom who suffers with a range of chronic diseases and metabolic functions, you know, conditions. And she, you know, she struggles with everyday tasks but still manages to be an amazing mom and grandma. But watching her has given me some motivation to break a bit of a family cycle in many ways. We've also had some success stories with our own family using food and herbal medicines to heal.
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Laini
You know, one of our kids was debilitated with anxiety to the point where she couldn't attend school for more than 2 hours a day. And then we employed this functional food diet and like a therapeutic diet and functional medicines to heal her within six weeks, although we did continue to work on her, got health for a year. But, you know, it's this kind of stuff that just wakes you up and goes, Oh my gosh, like when we can change our ways, it's not that hard.
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Laini
And look at the results. Like we can avoid this, you know, chronic disease, feeling crappy and just feeling mad, or we can embrace the power of food and actually make some massive headway in the way that we feel day to day, but also avoiding the sickness and disease that, you know, starts of our health, of us, you know, health and society.
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Laini
Right now, we can see that more and more people than ever are experiencing these horrific, you know, health conditions. And, you know, there's it's pretty clear the reason for that. One of the reasons for that is our food. And so we can use our food for good and our progression or we can, you know, by default, use our food to, you know, it it can hinder us.
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Filly
Yeah.
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Laini
So that's why I'm passionate about food.
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Filly
AM Yeah, that was my entry into healing myself and natural therapies as well. I remember I read a book called Diet Nutrition, and it was all about you can eat real food and heal your body and you can eat lots of processed foods and get cancer and other things. And I'm like, I think I know which one I'm going to choose.
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Laini
Yeah, yeah. And like, really, it's a choice. It's a choice that we have every single day of our lives.
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Filly
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, so you got into this. Felt awesome doing food as medicine. Then what happened?
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Laini
Okay, so there was a moment in time where my the only way I can explain it is that I felt like my brain broke. So I'll tell you the story of that, throwing myself into basically obsessing over growing this, you know, community of people who can access this quality food and bring awareness to people in education. I was all in and like I said, I don't do things in halves.
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Laini
And I was just I was so driven and passionate that I, you know, having a quite a few children and, you know, I was still having babies at this point. I think I had baby number four as it was starting. And then baby number five is as it was kind of coming low was it was after baby number five.
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Laini
I remember getting up at like 233 in the morning to feed her. And then going, Oh, well, she's back in bed. I've got a few hours, I'll just stay up and I'll just work on my laptop until the kids wake up for breakfast. And I fell into that habit for years. And every single waking moment that I wasn't with the kids, I was on my laptop and I the only work life balance I had was the balance that having kids by that she brings you because they need you and they want you.
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Laini
And I was actually so blessed to have that break and that balance, even though we all know as parents that as fulfilling and beautiful as motherhood and parenthood is, it's also incredibly demanding and stressful at times as well. So it was like this constant just I was just living on adrenaline all the time. I remember I was comfortable in adrenaline.
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Laini
That's where I said that was my set point and I could feel it in my body. I was racing all the time and I was always late for everything, and that was just who I was. I was just run, run, run, go, go, go. All the time. Self-care had basically stopped, you know, I was always very active and sporty, but as time went on, I just prioritised the business over exercise.
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Laini
You know, That was that morning time before the kids woke up. Used to be the time that, you know, you go and enjoy a walk or Iran or go to the gym. But no, that was my time to work. So that's what I did. My spiritual habits had basically all but given those up, my relationship with my husband suffered.
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Laini
I remember him saying to me, I feel like I need to compete with the business for your attention. And like that went on for quite some time. Our finances were no way positive because, you know, being a social worker by profession before having kids, I just was so focussed on selling products as low as I could to get them into as many hands as I could.
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Laini
I just, you know, it wasn't a business person on a social worker. And so looking back, I can see how this all happened. So one day I was at my laptop, had been there for hours. The kids wake up, I put down the laptop. And by the way, that morning I was fine. I was like slamming emails out.
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Laini
I was, you know, power mode getting done, done, done. No indication of anything negative. Close the laptop, went out to the kitchen. We had been making porridge for the kids, the breakfast every morning for like a decade at this point. And I could make porridge with like one hand tied behind my back and blindfolded. It was something that I could do, you know, very easily.
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Laini
But this day I stood in that kitchen and I could not remember. I couldn't figure out how to make porridge. And I was it was quite scary. It was like my brain broke. It was that moment that I thought, Oh my gosh, like what is happening to me? That was the very first indication to me that stress was playing a really large role in my life.
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Laini
But it was going to be years to come before I truly felt the full impact. Oh, what would of what stress would do to me?
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Filly
Can I just say super resilient body that your body allowed you to like to continue going for years, that I've got a slate that's like that, you know.
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Laini
Yeah, I and honestly and as you'll hear me say I'm sure later that I don't believe that eating a nutritious diet can fit the stress in your life. I don't believe that anymore. I used to. But yeah, back then, like I really do. I really do. See that having nutrition in my life helped me cope far better than I ever would have had I.
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Laini
Not for longer. Yeah, but ultimately, stress had its way with me. Not just. Yeah, you know, there's no escaping it. Really?
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Filly
Yeah. So what, what happened then? Like, in terms of physical or mental symptoms, say brain broke. Couldn't remember how to do porridge. Yeah. Continued going along like that for a while.
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Laini
And then like, I remember having, you know, like a one off consult with someone who gave me some great advice. She said, Laini, get more sleep, eat more good fats, eat more protein, buy these supplements and see how you go. Didn't have the money for the supplement. So I just did the sleep and the good fats and the protein and I felt so much better so that I'm fixed.
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Laini
Let's go back to what I was doing next minute.
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Filly
But is unconscious state. It's like, no, no, no, I love you. I love you for feeding you all those good foods. But this is not the right. Okay, So what symptoms did you did you have like so that there was the brain brain broke and there was no symptoms?
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Laini
What was the most. So there's obviously some got imbalances because I would bloat to the point where people would confidently ask me about when the baby was due.
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Filly
Well, could.
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Laini
And we know that stress causes, you know, got permeability and, you know, inflammation of the gut like that. So pretty straightforward stress can do this stuff. Adrenal fatigue. I got a hormone test and I feel like if you've seen that homemade. Yes my drain it what I'm now if you remember what you said to me but when you saw that the levels of like the the extent of my adrenal fatigue, you're like Laini like you need to go back on all that.
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Laini
Oh, yeah.
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Filly
That amount of time was not going to, like, fix that.
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Laini
So I had adrenal fatigue, which also meant my immune system was compromised, so I couldn't exercise. I remember I went back to the gym at some point and I couldn't go to the gym without crushing sick. You know, I would become sick for two weeks. So I'd go to the gym for two weeks, I'd be sick for two weeks, go to the gym for two weeks or just cycle and actually became a little bit afraid of exercise at that point because it would make me sick.
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Laini
My liver is clearly, you know, congested because cortisol just doesn't you know, you guys can speak to this far more than I could, but cortisol doesn't just disappear. Your liver actually has to process it. And when there's too much cortisol you live, it gets congested and you know, it creates more LDL cholesterol than than what's ideal, which is showing in my blood test, by the way.
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Laini
And so, you know, it's not shuts down nutrition choices that can cause all these horrible downstream effects. Oestrogen dominance was another one. I remember having my hormone tests, you know, picked apart and I remember I was I was asked, what does what does random rage maintain you, Lainey? I said, What do you mean random rage? She said, Well, the oestrogen, the oestrogen hormone is responsible for random rage is like off the charts, like you cannot measure it on you.
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Laini
And I kind of just laughed and laughed. It off. And then we went back to my kids one by one, and I just jokingly said, Oh, I just told them about, you know, I've got this hormone that's, you know, off the charts just in a random right. And they just kind of looked at me as expecting them to laugh.
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Laini
But they looked at me and they said, Oh, well, that makes sense, ma'am. And, you know, each of them kind of having that response one by one apart from each other comment was a little bit of an eye opening moment for me because I didn't really see it. I was I just didn't see it. So the oestrogen dominance, you know, obviously has this, you know, all these other effects in the body.
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Laini
My nervous system is on edge on the running joke in my family because I jump and I scream at the smallest little things and they play jokes on me just for a laugh, like they'll hide in cupboards and I'll open the door and I will scream so loud and for so long. But it's just hilarious to them. I remember we went on a holiday to Byron Bay kind of recently, which is an indication what happened is an indication to me that I actually need to continue to work on all the tools that I built for addressing the hormone balance.
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Laini
But I remember opening the laundry door to do some washing and there was a cleaner in there that I wasn't expecting to see. And I screamed, like I said, so loud. And for so long she became really scared. And then once I eventually stopped, we just don't were in hysterics. And she was there almost crying, going, What on earth is going on?
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Laini
And I had to explain to her, Look, I'm a screamer like a lot. I don't know. It's just everybody just kind of does this for a joke, you know, for me all the time. But I've had to actually put a stop to it so that I can maintain some parasympathetic.
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Filly
Come down the system.
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Laini
For a bit longer. But so that's kind of the state of my emotions and my nervous system. And like I was kind of just all over the place. And now even when my blood tests are coming back clear, like I'm fairly certain with some guidance of, of yourself and, and my chiropractor, etc.. But I probably have I'm looking at an autoimmune disease, you know, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis and it's, you know, I've gained a bit of weight.
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Laini
I'm not able to move through life as easily as I once did and as I enjoy, you know, I say even though the blood tests are clear, symptomatically, the shoe fits and, you know, I'm obviously going to be working with you to address that and look at it and confirm it. You know, all the rest of it. But, you know, we know that cortisol, you know, blocks the signal signalling of thyroid hormones and also the conversion of those thyroid hormones in the liver.
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Laini
Correct me if I'm wrong, Filly, and that stops us burning belly fat and it stops us, you know, it down, regulates metabolism and all these things. And so the science behind like how stress actually impacts all of these different areas and how one can then cause another, you know, like stress can cause that leaky gut originally. Sure. But then it caused the oestrogen dominance, it caused the liver congestion, it caused the adrenal fatigue, it caused the thyroid issues.
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Laini
It just goes on and on and it can become basically now I realise I'm in a bit of a health crisis, like just call it for what it is because of stress. Like how mind blowing is that? Uh.
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Filly
It's crazy. Thank you so much for just sharing a lot.
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Laini
Yeah. It's not just if it helps someone else avoid stress and all the better. But you know what? I. I know it sounds ridiculously corny, but I am actually quite grateful for all these tests that show me where my body's at. I'm grateful for the evidence that my body showing me that, I mean, that health crisis, because, like, unfortunately, I'm not someone who has historically listened to my body.
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Laini
Clearly, like your body is always talking to you. You know, we don't often, you know, listen until it's yelling at us so hard that we can't help but give it the attention that it needs. And that's you know, that's my situation. It was my brain breaking originally, but even then, I only listened for a short time. And then it was some years later that, you know, it's calling for my attention again.
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Laini
And without the daughter of that, that hormone test and the adrenals, you know, showing me black and white on paper, on screen, like I'm someone who probably would have just kept pushing through, like never finding a concrete enough reason to connect the dots and finally put myself first or even even like or even know what I what I needed.
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Laini
And I'm like, that's why you guys harp on all the time about functional testing, right?
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Filly
And hmm.
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Chris
I was just going to say, isn't it nice to hit a wall sometimes? Like the the, the blessing, the double edged sword, double edged sword, You know, the the good side, bad side. We hit this wall, we just get bang smack and it hurts as irritating. It's frustrating, it's hurtful, stressful. It can cause broken bones, broken body systems, broken relationships, all that sort of stuff when we burn out.
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Chris
But if we didn't, we just be doing the same thing over and over again. It's like our our bodies have this beautiful way of of just putting their foot down like a toddler just going, Nope, I'm not doing it anymore. Your brain's broken. And, and we just, like, break down. We burn out and there's no moving. So. Yeah.
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Chris
And that's.
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Laini
That's why it's such a great way of putting it. I often look back at those days of ignoring myself, thinking that I could push through and stress would, you know, I was I was invincible. I kind of look at it like a teenager's brain. You know how teenagers, you know, they don't have this fully developed prefrontal cortex that helps them, you know, balance risk to reward.
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Laini
And I felt like I was like a teenager just feeling invincible, feeling like I could somehow just push through and be immune to what you know, you know, you see other people falling down like, oh, that's not going to happen to me. You know that So foolish. But you know, that's what it is. And, you know, we all have these lessons in life.
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Laini
And this is I feel like this is a very, very, very big lesson of mine in life that's taken me a number of years to finally grasp and make some, you know, draw a line in the sand and actually reclaim myself like it really is a gift.
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Filly
Well, you know what? I reckon it was a hmm. Like a ten year journey. The ten year journey from first. So I had three three major body burn out episodes. First one focussed on food and that got me so far and I felt pretty good. Had another baby, things fell apart again. Functional medicine, testing, supplements, all that sort of stuff.
00;27;02;12 - 00;27;27;09
Filly
But then COVID hit and I had my third one, and by then I'm like, I know all the things I've been doing, all the things I've been, you know, I was like kind of frustrated, but I was all but I also thought, well, I have solved it twice. I can solve it again. But this time, like all my things in my toolkit, in terms of all the physical healing staff wasn't enough.
00;27;27;09 - 00;27;46;27
Filly
Like it was almost just like my body was like, you know, you haven't quite learned the lesson yet. I love you. I appreciate you for nourishing your body and, you know, trying to find some more work life balance. But it was I think that's something you said it was finding finding yourself, finding yourself. I think you said that.
00;27;46;29 - 00;27;47;23
Filly
And that was.
00;27;47;23 - 00;27;49;12
Laini
Something that I probably did.
00;27;49;14 - 00;28;09;10
Filly
And that was like a deeper route for me was that I just like, did not like there was a disconnection with my myself or my own conscious state is another word. It's a way of saying that where I wasn't listening, I was listening to the pain, trying to solve it at the level I thought it needed to be solved.
00;28;09;13 - 00;28;16;13
Filly
But my body was like, Yeah, keep giving me those symptoms and we're going to go all the way this time.
00;28;16;16 - 00;28;32;10
Laini
That's why I love what you guys do, because you talk about the root, root cause, You know, you could say that the root cause of my current health condition is stress, but you guys would probably say, No, no, no. Stress isn't the root cause of your problem. What's the one thing you don't stress?
00;28;32;10 - 00;28;35;12
Filly
What do you eat? What do you think? Lainey?
00;28;35;15 - 00;28;38;11
Laini
Oh, the root out.
00;28;38;14 - 00;28;42;01
Filly
You're welcome to pass on Any questions?
00;28;42;03 - 00;29;14;28
Laini
Honestly, I feel like that could be an entirely new podcast where you guys could like, help me dissect all of that. But for right now I am focusing on really like stress being the arch nemesis and really just doing everything I can to rid myself of that because let's take the thyroid issue. If that's my issue, for example, you can get a thyroid issue from stress or you could get a thyroid issue from a nutritional deficiency of selenium or iron or iodine.
00;29;15;00 - 00;29;39;04
Laini
And so if I then just, you know, supplement with those nutrients, but stress is what got me there, that's not going to fix the issue. We fix the issue like whatever the way in was, that's the way out. And so I can clearly say that, you know, stress is the way out for me and all by and there are things that I need to do to support all my systems in my body through supplements and specific foods, etc..
00;29;39;04 - 00;29;47;07
Laini
And lifestyle stress is where it's at for me. And so that's my focus. And actually, I'd love to do a little call with you guys to do the root root cause of stress.
00;29;47;07 - 00;30;17;14
Filly
I probably let me oh, share it. I'm sharing a story with someone we are working with where the thyroid condition autoimmunity and she Podia had seen so many practitioners, all the tests, all the supplements, all the diets, nothing changed at all with her symptoms like body still in pain. Her main symptom was just like this chronic inflammation in her body and anxiety.
00;30;17;16 - 00;30;46;05
Filly
And then anyway, I said like, well, let's not reinvent the wheel here. Let's look at it in a different way. And whilst like stress, like stress, let people know what stresses. And so that's where it's like, okay, well that's, that's, that's the root cause. But stress is only ever internal, not external. And so the crazy thing was when we uncovered this deeper and when it's internal, it's always a belief about yourself.
00;30;46;08 - 00;31;13;07
Filly
Like there's always some sort of not nice belief that you have about yourself. And then your unconscious state is like, we have to I don't like living in this, this, this space, this world, this body. If you upstairs don't even know who I am downstairs, and we need to sort this out. So anyway, a lot of discovery work, but a deeper belief around being, gee, I can't even remember.
00;31;13;07 - 00;31;42;17
Filly
I think it was being a failure or something. The moment the moment she discovered that for a whole six weeks, no pain at all. And that was six years of chronic pain every day. Wow. And I say six weeks. The Zen stuff happened again, and she had to like it. All right. We got to like we're always had to learn how to rebuild rapport with self so that then the pain could stay off forever.
00;31;42;19 - 00;31;51;19
Laini
It's incredible. Incredible. We aren't just so connected. We can't segment parts of our body and just treat them individually.
00;31;51;20 - 00;32;02;14
Filly
Yeah, yeah. It's like we're not just physical body, mental. We're a mental emotional, psychological, unconscious, energetic, spiritual. And it's. It's all connected.
00;32;02;16 - 00;32;04;08
Chris
Mm hmm. My favourite.
00;32;04;13 - 00;32;06;11
Laini
You want I'll go out.
00;32;06;11 - 00;32;11;23
Chris
No, you go. You go. I've got my favourites. Not going anywhere. You can. You go.
00;32;11;25 - 00;32;16;26
Laini
Do you want to know the nitty gritty of what I'm actually doing to address? Yeah.
00;32;16;28 - 00;32;17;10
Chris
Go for.
00;32;17;10 - 00;32;18;22
Filly
It. Yeah.
00;32;18;25 - 00;32;43;09
Laini
All right. So the great thing about addressing stress is that really it's largely free, right? It's not like we have to go and buy all these things. And, you know, it sounds cliche, but the biggest thing that I have discovered about stress is breathwork. And I'm not doing any fancy breathwork. I'm simply I'm using driving in the car as my trigger.
00;32;43;11 - 00;33;03;16
Laini
So I think with any new habit, I need to attach it to a trigger, right? Otherwise we forget or it just doesn't happen. So every time I get into my car, that's my trigger to do my breath work and all it is is just breathing in for four out, four, eight, 20 times, you know, or as many times as I can and, you know, breath extending the length of our exhale.
00;33;03;16 - 00;33;27;15
Laini
As you guys know, is like a scientifically proven way to reduce the stress response in our body. And so being a mom, I'm in the car multiple times a day, sometimes ten times a day, like, you know, you know what it's like. And so I'm dipping into that parasympathetic state multiple times a day and retraining basically my neural pathways out of that habitual stress state.
00;33;27;17 - 00;33;57;11
Laini
So that's been a huge part of reducing the stress in my life. But I've also had to basically ruthlessly place me as number one in my life. And I know that that's easier said than done. I've realised that I'm a project based person like I do really well with projects. I, I can say that I'm going to prioritise myself till the cows come home, but then as soon as some urgent thing comes up, as they do every single day, I can very easily put myself down the list, but then just kidding myself by saying, Oh, tomorrow I'll do it.
00;33;57;14 - 00;34;02;28
Laini
So now it's Project Laini time. It's time. Yeah, I love it.
00;34;02;28 - 00;34;04;23
Filly
To project Laini.
00;34;04;25 - 00;34;24;06
Laini
I like that is ruthlessly number one priority in my life. And so every day there's a number of things that I'm doing that I know is bringing me back into a state of balance and healing and de-stressing. You know, nutrition is part of it, obviously. You know, thankfully, I already had some great habits nutritionally, but of course, you know, I was functional food.
00;34;24;06 - 00;34;49;17
Laini
You can always choose particular foods to serve particular purposes in your body. So, you know, adding things like adaptogens that help you cope with stress, you know, into my morning smoothie, for example, or, you know, I'm adding more cruciferous veg or organic soy based products to address, you know, hormonal balance and the liver. And, you know, there are things you can do that optimise the response in your body according to the foods that you eat.
00;34;49;24 - 00;35;10;12
Laini
Like even just something as simple as the plain old seed. Like if you have I think it's 23 grams of mixed seeds a day, like sunflower seeds. Pepitas It's like, it's not hard. Lindsey It's cheesy. It's it drastically slashes the inflammation in your body over a short three month period. Like there there's some simple things you can just throw into your smoothie or ate on the run.
00;35;10;12 - 00;35;15;17
Laini
Like it's easy stuff that's accessible and we can really use to our advantage and benefit.
00;35;15;22 - 00;35;16;03
Filly
Yeah.
00;35;16;10 - 00;35;37;09
Laini
And then of course there's, you know, the supplements that Filly has recommended for me. They always will play a role and I know that they are so integral to healing and balance because I've seen like physical evidence, like even when I wasn't changing anything in my diet and I was just doing some supplements, I saw physical evidence of my hormone health improving and healing.
00;35;37;09 - 00;35;48;16
Laini
What that is might be too much information for your audience, but there's, you know, this evidence that you can see that actually things are progressing so good.
00;35;48;18 - 00;35;57;28
Filly
Now let's let's switch focus because I want to talk about what your business is now, which is stat health AIDS.
00;35;58;00 - 00;35;59;05
Laini
Okay.
00;35;59;07 - 00;36;10;10
Filly
Because can I just can I just say I am a clinical nutritionist at Laini. I think Lainey is the person who knows the most about nutrition in the world.
00;36;10;13 - 00;36;30;00
Laini
I don't know about that. Definitely not. I think the more you learn, the more you realise you don't know as well. I just oh, there's science out there that talks about the power of food. Oh my gosh. Like it's mind blowing. And I just think if only our mainstream medicine would embrace, you know, and together combine forces with nutritional medicine.
00;36;30;03 - 00;36;35;17
Laini
Gosh, like, how much progress could we make as a society? Like, there is some hard evidence out there.
00;36;35;18 - 00;36;36;23
Chris
Yeah, that's awesome.
00;36;36;28 - 00;36;42;22
Filly
Yeah. So tell us a bit about new business now, which is not that new. It's kind of No.
00;36;42;22 - 00;36;43;03
Laini
It's more of a.
00;36;43;03 - 00;36;59;11
Filly
Pivot. Give it. Yeah, a pivot. And then also you're talking about seeds and all the lovely things. And I want to talk about smoothies as well, because you have a really cool free smoothie challenge coming up in August. Yeah.
00;36;59;14 - 00;37;17;23
Laini
Okay. So you can tell that my husband and I are passionate foodies and, you know, we believe in the power of food, which means that we also, you know, we're spending a bit of time. Now, let me backtrack. We also know that the number one principle when it comes to thriving gut health is diversity of the whole foods that we're eating.
00;37;17;23 - 00;37;34;06
Laini
Right. You know, it's one thing to have Whole foods, but it's a whole nother ballgame to have a right, a wide range, a diverse range of these beautiful foods coming in. But that's not always, as you know, can be easy if you know what you're doing. But for a lot of people, you know, they reach for the same things every day.
00;37;34;06 - 00;37;57;00
Laini
And so, you know, knowing that we wanted a diverse range of Whole Foods and we were, you know, making pancakes and smoothies in the morning, but we were dragging down like 20 jars of different Whole Foods to kind of make this beautiful, diverse pancake mix and smoothie makes and all the rest of it. And we realised that is just not a sustainable, you know, way to go for the average busy person who's got work and kids and whatever else.
00;37;57;03 - 00;38;12;07
Laini
And so we decided to make these diverse whole food rich blends ready and done for you. So now we have, you know, launched our own range of smoothie blends that target your particular health goals, whatever they might be.
00;38;12;10 - 00;38;20;17
Filly
I think I saw I think I saw Kris having the perimenopause on the other day. We have like a few packets in the pantry, you just out.
00;38;20;19 - 00;38;25;15
Chris
Of the smoothie. And there was none of what was the other one that we had that we read. We ran.
00;38;25;15 - 00;38;26;01
Filly
Outside.
00;38;26;03 - 00;38;38;18
Chris
We had Supercharge and like, Oh, God, Perry, man, I'm. I'm man enough to admit that I've had that several times.
00;38;38;20 - 00;38;39;15
Filly
So we're not.
00;38;39;16 - 00;38;40;10
Laini
Going to head.
00;38;40;12 - 00;38;54;07
Filly
And that's also what I love about the smoothie blends each had about the other products in Exactly. But a lot of them are targeted towards different health issues or, you know, if someone just wants to optimise their immune system or their brain health, you got them covered.
00;38;54;09 - 00;39;14;16
Laini
So good. Yeah. And honestly, it's drawing from the science of particular, you know, different things that we're learning every year now about nutritional medicine and incorporating those things in this easy down for you mix that, you know, like you said, it is functional is targeted to what you want it to do and it really does do what you want it to do.
00;39;14;16 - 00;39;22;09
Laini
Like the feedback we get from people who, you know, take the Perry memo, one that you were just referring to. We had this long process.
00;39;22;16 - 00;39;25;29
Filly
You know, Chris is going to.
00;39;26;02 - 00;39;28;27
Chris
Tour this scheduled.
00;39;29;00 - 00;39;52;23
Laini
So hold practice at this woman. He was on it for just a few weeks consistently, and she said that she was on a half serve. And then after a few weeks, she was able to actually have with consultation of her practitioner, she was able to have her perimenopause medication that she was on and she was able to really see an improvement in her PMS symptoms.
00;39;52;23 - 00;40;12;05
Laini
You know, like these are like they're real stories that are coming through with, you know, had some another mum write in the other day. She said that her son had had the best two chocolate milk in a smoothie sorry in a milkshake recipe that I've written up on the website there. And he had stabilised moods, his mood, his what did she say.
00;40;12;05 - 00;40;32;24
Laini
His mood changes were levelled out for that day. You know, there was there's another Laini, she's a nurse and she works really long hours and she would typically go through and get drive through or something on the way home because she's so low on energy after a long shift and after being on the all around, which is that the chocolate all around a smoothie blend, she said I just don't need to anymore.
00;40;32;24 - 00;40;54;14
Laini
Like I have enough energy to sustain me and her daughter, you know, has to what's the word like? She kind of just says, I need that chocolate smoothie on tap because I'm convinced that it helps me perform better in my exams. Like it's just like the everyday stories of people coming through that, like, number one feedback is it it actually helps people poop every day.
00;40;54;16 - 00;40;56;01
Laini
Now you know how important that is.
00;40;56;01 - 00;40;57;15
Filly
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;40;57;16 - 00;41;02;22
Laini
All right. Want we don't want to get clogged up and have all these toxins circulating around our body.
00;41;02;22 - 00;41;03;05
Filly
Yeah.
00;41;03;08 - 00;41;22;14
Laini
So it's super heartening, too. And that's what drives us. It helps, you know, helps us keep going. You know, business life is not easy. Maybe there's some great causes. You can talk to me about that, Chris. But this, you know, this is just so exciting to us. Like, we love to hear those stories coming through of people feeling fantastic.
00;41;22;14 - 00;41;35;12
Laini
You know, one person said after only a week, honestly, these she's just feeling so much better in body and mind and energy and digestion. Like it's just this whole life's like Elevate Elevator in a way. It's something. I just love it.
00;41;35;14 - 00;42;01;22
Filly
I love it, too. I mean, if any clients are listening to this, they know that, you know, we do lab tests. There are quite a lot of supplements, but the goal is to get off all that stuff and use food like food to sustain you and support. And if we can also use food as therapy, then like all the more power to you and then our body just is able to absorb and assimilate the food because we are food like we are what we eat.
00;42;01;22 - 00;42;15;10
Filly
And so it's the best way that we can really help nourish and restore our systems. So I love it and I love I love you. I love the crazy. I love the gravy one. The gravy is actually probably my favourite.
00;42;15;12 - 00;42;39;11
Laini
It's actually difficult to find a gravy that isn't so full of all the weirdness. It's it was actually voted by Jordan Pi as an Australia's number one gravy mix because it's just so clean. Like it's just a beautiful gravy makes the taste of nice. We have guys who come over here and you know, sometimes we'll have a roast dinner, we have leftovers and they're here at lunch time.
00;42;39;11 - 00;42;47;03
Laini
We're like, Here, have some lunch. And they're like, What is this like, Oh, we made it. And it's just very popular. It's a very popular.
00;42;47;05 - 00;43;06;27
Filly
Yeah. If people don't know Jordan, Jodie, Jodie Pie, I don't even know how many followers she has on Instagram, but she's like a million. Maybe not that many, but amazing. So I was so excited when I saw your product on her Instagram feed and I was like, I already knew it, but well done, well done.
00;43;07;00 - 00;43;09;26
Laini
Thank you.
00;43;09;29 - 00;43;36;00
Chris
So these are good. I've got this. I think any time someone's struggling food and I'll go through those waves, the S's, smoothies, shakes, salads, soups, slow cooker, stir fry, they all start with this. Makes it like I like simple things, so it's easy to remember. Stick with those and you'll probably won't go too far wrong.
00;43;36;03 - 00;43;56;01
Laini
No, I love that. And I'm with you. I cannot. I cannot imagine or think of a breakfast that can pack in as much goodness and make you feel the way a good supercharged smoothie does with and only like one minute of time in your morning. I cannot think of a breakfast that is as convenient and nutritious as a smoothie.
00;43;56;01 - 00;44;07;09
Laini
Like, I just sometimes we haven't seen I mean, like, well, that's okay because it's got all the food groups in there and probably more veggies than you get in the dinner anyway. So we're happy with it.
00;44;07;12 - 00;44;39;13
Chris
It's a filling too, so. Okay, I don't know if any other guys and girls feel the same way about food as I do, but especially doing sport, walking away from a meal and not feeling filled means I'm going to have to eat soon again. And and so traditionally smoothies have been in that boat for me. Like, I'm going, I need this quick by now, I'm going to have to have something later on.
00;44;39;15 - 00;45;06;20
Chris
But I'll tell you what. So adding a blend plus a plus a sneaky bit, a bit of arts or whatever, like it depends on how hungry I am. It's like, I'll put all that in. That's that's good to go and I'll, I'll usually fast and eight until like around ten, 11 ish, kind of not really intermittent fasting but kind of and then I'll have my smoothie.
00;45;06;22 - 00;45;08;23
Chris
Boom. That's good.
00;45;08;25 - 00;45;19;13
Filly
Is heavy. Yeah. Can you tell us or Alison is a bit more about what's happening in the supercharged Smoothie camp and why everyone should join up for it?
00;45;19;16 - 00;45;48;00
Laini
Yes. Oh, gosh. Like it's so much fun. It's a ten day experience each day. That is either. I like a short 20 minute video which will teach you a component of crafting your own functional smoothie that targets your particular health goal. And then the next day is this little micro challenge. And that micro challenge is going to help you get your phrase smoothie ready so that you've got it's kind of like having fast food in your freezer that's actually good for you.
00;45;48;00 - 00;46;08;18
Laini
So you can quickly just grab and go in one minute flat and have this amazing breakfast that's going to see you through until your next meal or even beyond for lots of people. And so it's it's free and it's starts on the 28th of August and it's maybe the last time we're going to do a live coached version of the boot camp.
00;46;08;18 - 00;46;25;03
Laini
And then I think we're going to take it evergreen, which means that it's, you know, there's no live coaching component and anyone can jump in at any time. So this is like a great chance to jump in and actually get your questions answered. We have Q&A is we've got, you know, little game shows where we give away prizes.
00;46;25;03 - 00;46;42;24
Laini
We've got lots of fun stuff attached to the education. But a lot of people say that is free education is better than the paid courses we've done. Like we really think all of our energy into it for that period of time and we go hard to support people to actually figure out how to flood their body with nutrition in the best way that we know how.
00;46;42;26 - 00;47;10;12
Filly
So good, so exciting. So that kicks off on the 28th of August, I believe, and I'll pop in the show notes at Linked where people can join that useful. And to finish off, what are some last words of wisdom that you could give our listeners, especially those who may be currently struggling with body burn out and want to eat healthy but kind of feel like they have no energy to do it now.
00;47;10;15 - 00;47;41;04
Laini
Okay. At the risk of sounding like a maybelline ad, you are worth it. Well, like Speed of Feeling Better is just around the corner. Once you decide that you are worth getting it done. And and look, even though I'm focussed on healing from all these things that stress has caused for me, I can absolutely feel in body and mind that I'm benefiting from the flooding of those nutrients that's being fed to me consistently each day and just starts small.
00;47;41;11 - 00;48;01;22
Laini
Just tweak one meal of the day and once that is just a habit and that's part of how you move through your day routinely, then you can look at adding another little tweak to a different meal of the day. This does not need to happen overnight. You do have some time and in fact, taking time is the most effective way to make sustainable change.
00;48;01;24 - 00;48;23;07
Laini
So you'll be amazed at what you what you can accomplish by just being gentle and self realising that you're not going to be perfect at everything straight away. You know, have a compassionate mind towards yourself with making changes because I think a lot of people get discouraged because they go gung ho, they fall off the wagon, they just have a bad day or a bad week and they go, Oh, it's all too hard.
00;48;23;07 - 00;48;38;02
Laini
I can't do it. Just be gentle and soft, Do one thing at a time. Remember that you're worth it and actually trust. Invest in yourself. Like this is in my mind, One of the best ways that we can do that is the best form of self-care.
00;48;38;04 - 00;49;02;24
Filly
I love it. So giving say good luck. Thank you so much for coming on and sharing with vulnerability everything about you and also Smith ease and nutrition. And I know that our listeners are just going to love you if they don't already know you. And I know you're going to love this needy camp coming up on the 28th of August.
00;49;02;26 - 00;49;18;26
Laini
Yes, I would love to get to know you all in the spring at the boot camp for sure. And thank you for having me. I've been loving listening to your podcast. You guys are just such a wealth of wisdom and doing such fantastic things out there for people in Australia and beyond. Right? You work with anyone?
00;49;18;26 - 00;49;22;03
Filly
Yeah. Yeah Anyone. Anybody.
00;49;22;03 - 00;49;32;15
Laini
I just. I just love that there are people like you in the industry who I really you know, I know your motives. I've known you for a long time, so it's just beautiful to see you out there doing your thing.
00;49;32;17 - 00;49;34;08
Filly
And explaining to.
00;49;34;10 - 00;49;45;29
Chris
Your awesome. All right, guys. Well, we'll hit pause on this one and we'll see you next time.
00;49;46;02 - 00;49;55;02
Filly
Thank you so much for listening. We so appreciate you. If you'd like to give us extra smiles, drop us a review and spread the love. By sharing this episode.
00;49;55;06 - 00;50;13;05
Chris
You can also write your own state of burnout and the root Cause contributors by taking out ending body burnout assessment on our website. And if you're interested in learning about our group one on one ending Body Burn, our programs should use a DM via Instagram or Facebook. Have the best day ever.
