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Hello? It's Filly here.
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Just a quick announcement
before we jump into today's episode.
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Natural Medicine Week, hosted
by Australian traditional Medicine
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Society, is coming up on the 22nd
to the 28th of May.
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I'm a proud ambassador
for Natural Medicine Week, which showcases
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all the many ways natural medicine
can restore the body and mind
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with live online events run by qualified
practitioners across Australia.
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You can check out the link in the show
notes to find your way
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to Natural Medicine Week
as part of the event.
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I'll be holding a special free root
cause of emotional eating masterclass,
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which you can sign up for via
the Natural Medicine Week website.
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During the Masterclass, I'll be digging
into emotional eating, food addiction,
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sugar cravings and the hidden imbalances
in the body that caused this behaviour,
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as well as the metaphysical imbalances
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that are the deepest root
cause of emotional eating.
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Hope you can make it.
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Okay, on to today's episode.
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Hello and welcome to the Ending Body
Burn Out Show,
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where your hosts Chris and Filly
co-founders of Multi-award-winning
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Functional Medicine Practice, serving busy
people with energy, mood and got issues.
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Well, busyness, overworking, addictive,
doing and perfectionism might be the norm.
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It's not normal and it's a major
contributor to health issues.
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Our goal with this show
is to give you a holistic root, root
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cause approach to healing your body
so that you don't have to continue doctor
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or diet hopping or popping a gazillion
supplements hoping something might stick.
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So get ready to heal your body,
get your spot back
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deeply, connect with yourself
and step into the life of your dreams.
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Let's dive in.
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Welcome,
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everybody, to the Ending Body Burn Out
show.
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Super
excited to have one of our awesome clients
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with us, Brian Jones, who worked with us.
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G How long ago was it?
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It was during COVID and lockdown
craziness and stuff, wasn't it?
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Yeah, two and a half years ago.
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Two and a half years ago. Wow.
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Yeah. Yeah, That's insane.
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All right, so we are so excited
to have Brian on the show.
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He is an awesome human being.
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Love him to be its biggest heart.
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And also he had some really cool
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healing experiences
while he was working with us at Christine.
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Really? Functional medicine.
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Sorry.
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Let's just dive in and, you know,
I actually I want to I want to let
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everyone know, like your official bio,
because then I want to talk to that.
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And then you can tell everyone
a little bit more about yourself as well.
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So Brian is the founder of VA Platinum,
which is an outsourcing business.
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They specialise in hiring a virtual staff
of business owners
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to win back their time, make more money
and improve their happiness.
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And we have personally benefited
from Brian's business.
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So we've had a couple of Vas actually.
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Our current one, Gerson, is an EA,
so he's like super special.
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But honestly, you have
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helped our business
so much and also our quality of life.
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So we're super grateful
for what you are doing in
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and what you're building in the world
and offering other.
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Just, just teaching people
how to get out of needing to do everything
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or feeling like they need to do everything
or themselves, which is a major
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cause of burnout and things
that we could teach people through.
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So tell us a bit
more about yourself as well.
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Okay. Well, thanks for the intro, Fil.
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You know, I when you reached out to ask,
you want to be on the podcast, it was a
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you know, it's a hell yes moment.
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So this was a hell. Yes, of course.
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Because you and Chris have definitely
helped me a whole lot yourselves.
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So my bio is really
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background is my father.
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I'm a husband.
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We moved out of Melbourne
around four years ago
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to escape the rat race and thank goodness
it was before COVID and we moved up
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to a cute little adventure town
called Bright in regional Victoria.
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So we're about three and a
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half hours northeast of Melbourne
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and it just suits our lifestyle
because we've got mountain
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biking trail running
a whole lot of other adventure sports.
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We've just recently rented a house
on top of Mount Hotham,
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which is one hour away from here
so that we can enjoy the ski season
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in a few months.
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You know, my son will move up
onto the Mountain Primary
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School
up there to experience the whole winter.
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So yeah, we were certainly doing
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the whole nomadic
or remote work lifestyle.
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I love it.
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I love it because you're you're walking
what you talk as well.
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You're going the extra mile to spend time
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with your family
and do all those awesome things.
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Okay.
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So are you happy to share just with
whatever you feel comfortable with?
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How you were feeling
before you reached out to us,
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like specifically some symptoms?
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And then also,
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how is it affecting your life,
your work, your family, all the things.
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So for the
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listeners, Finlay asked
before this podcast started.
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You have to share everything.
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I was like, Gulp. Yes.
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So, you know, hopefully it was something
that we didn't initially talk about.
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But I let you know,
I think a few weeks into our journey
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together that for some reason I never had
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any beau issues before,
but under my armpits
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I was getting bio and, you know,
at the time I was fully 45 years old.
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So 45 years of nobody ever
in my whole life didn't even need
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to use antiperspirant.
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And it was something I was proud of.
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And then all of a sudden
something had changed in me after starting
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this outsourcing business and
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my wife would, you know,
normally have my office door closed.
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My wife might bring me in a cup of tea
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and she'd look at me and just say, It's
one of those days, isn't it?
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And she could literally smell
my bio and I could smell it, too.
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Awkward. Really awkward.
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And to me, that was,
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I guess, the most telling sign
that something was wrong within my body.
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The more
obvious symptoms that I was having
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was that I was having constant headaches
all throughout the day, every day.
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So I, I'd wake up with a headache
and go to sleep with a headache,
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and it had become so normal
that I wasn't having
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coping mechanisms
just around the headache.
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And I was also having brain fog.
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I would literally just have this fog
that I was trying
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to work through and have conversations
with people every day.
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And when you combine the brain
fog with the headaches,
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I would honestly wake up,
you know, five or six days in a row
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and I'm not going to swear on the podcast,
but it was like not another beeping day
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and again, that was a such a telling
sign of you don't want to live like this.
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You don't wanna wake up every day
thinking, Oh no, not another day.
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And then I'd maybe meditate
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or do a few things like exercise
or spend time laughing with my family.
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But those were coping
mechanisms to get me through the day
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rather than starting every day
with abundance and joy.
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Yeah, and you have a pretty high
I mean, you've changed.
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You choose how you work now.
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Yes. Yes.
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But you had it pretty hyper
Foreman's business.
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Like how many employees do you have?
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Hundreds. Hundreds? We have 570.
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Okay. Wow.
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Okay.
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That has jumped up
since I last spoke to you. Yes.
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So amazing.
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So it's not like you're just trying to,
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you know, like
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a sole trader getting through the day
with clients.
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You're pretty much managing
a lot of people and a lot of things.
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So I could imagine that
that getting through at work
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with headaches and brain fog.
I mean, I struggle to do that.
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I would struggle to do that
in our current business,
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let alone if I had a heaps of employees.
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Also, too, all the coping mechanisms.
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So with the headaches, did you were
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you doing like Panadol on your phone
or anything like that, or you kind of just
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did that touch the headaches
or It's a great question.
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I'm sort of anti medication person,
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but yeah, if it gets so bad
then I will definitely take
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Panadol, Nurofen
and a fan that I was doing so weekly
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and you know, again
that wasn't actually having an impact.
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I was hoping it would.
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So, so
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for me, trying to get just through a day,
I end up having to not medicate
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because it wasn't
actually having an impact.
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It was obviously deeper
than what medication could help.
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Yeah, it's kind of sucky.
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I mean, Panadol is great
if you have a fever
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or you know that once of headache, I'm
not against it, give it to my children.
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Sometimes if they're super sick,
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but not a good sign.
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If it's not really taking
much of the pain away,
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it's like there's something going on there
that's not quite right.
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Did you see, I'm just going to ask this
because I actually can't remember.
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Did you end up going to the GP or anything
initially with any of these issues
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you were kind of like
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you thought
that it was just sort of normal
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or it was part of running a big business
and you didn't bother with the GP
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and then you came across us and you're
like, Oh, there might be another way.
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Glad you ask,
because we haven't talked about that.
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Yes, I go for an annual GP.
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Yeah, full bloods
and what have you and I specifically went
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when I was in this rough patch
and all of my results turned up normal.
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So it was then when
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we met and you said,
Let's do some testing.
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I'm like, Well, I've kind of done
some testing and I'm normal.
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But the testing that you got me to do
totally, not just to enter GP testing.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Maybe you would jump into that, actually.
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No, no, no, we won't.
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We'll talk. Well,
now let's jump into that.
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Maybe we'll come back to other stuff
later.
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Sounds good.
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Okay.
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So do you remember?
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So this is what we call the answers phase
that listeners is
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there's always
there's always root causes and reasons
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as to why you are developing
physical symptoms or conditions.
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And you can't have a physical symptom
without there being some sort
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of physiological imbalance.
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So our first point of inquiry
is the answers phase
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where we really get clear
on what body systems are out of whack,
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and that includes a bunch of or sometimes
it's just one test for some people.
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Sometimes we do a few depEnding
on what's going on with the person.
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So do you remember?
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Are you happy to share anything
that came up on the lab test, which
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I guess and also like, how did you feel
after being to the GP feeling abnormal?
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Maybe
like when you got all your blood test back
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from the GP and everything was normal,
How did that make you feel?
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Were you kind of like, Oh,
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maybe this is something like,
this is it all just in my head?
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That's often
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what people say, or is it kind of like,
Oh, maybe I just need to work less?
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What's going on?
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Okay,
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so start with Got the results from the GP.
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And my first thought was, well,
they're the wrong tests to get.
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So clearly I don't have cancer
and my liver is functioning fine
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and that was kind of the result
of those tests.
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Yeah, which is great
because like there's definitely benefit.
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You want to rule out big nasty stuff
that could be life threatening.
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And so like if anyone's struggling
with any health issue, I'm always like,
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go to the GP first.
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Just make sure, you know,
let's have a thorough check to make sure
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nothing sinister is showing up
like fatty liver disease or cancer.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And so, yeah, so I got some
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happiness out of that.
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But at the same time I was also working
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with a mindset coach
on a fortnightly to monthly basis.
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And that mindset coach
was giving me some other activities
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to do to try and break the cycle
of what I was sitting within.
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But it wasn't.
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It was helping,
but it wasn't helping the root cause,
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it wasn't solving the actual
underlying problems.
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Yeah, and you're going
have to help me through the actual testing
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you did with me.
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Filip But yeah, yeah,
the testing of the saliva and then going.
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Yeah, the faecal. Yeah. Hit me with it.
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Go your turn.
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Spit, spit too in way It's this way
people in the and I Chris has this
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anyway All right so
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because you were a high achiever or are
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doing all the things we definitely looked
at your adrenal stress hormones
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because that looks at how well you're
regulating your stress hormones.
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Often people who have been.
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Would you say like at the time too,
because this new business that you have,
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which I guess isn't so new anymore,
but it really grew really quite quickly.
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So you said juggling a lot.
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Yeah, I was in for fight, fight, fight,
fight mode all of the time.
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Fight, fight.
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And I felt like I had to be turned on,
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like I had to be turned on always
in that fight mode to get everything done.
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I didn't realise there was another way.
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Yeah, and I hope, like,
if you don't mind me saying,
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I remember when we first caught up to
you said your natural tendency is to
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you would just love to sit on the couch
all day and read a book and go for a walk
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like that is kind of
within your heart and soul.
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But when this business really took off,
it's like, Oh, okay.
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So it was almost like it felt and natural.
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Would you say in terms of the workload
that you had?
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It wasn't your it wasn't
what brought you a lot of love and joy?
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No. So for the listeners,
I had a previous business
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that I was working 60, 70 hours
a week and I did suffer some burnout
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and I personally went and hired some
virtual team members in the Filippines
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and it resolved so much of my imbalance
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that I ended up working
literally one hour a month in my business.
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And I had a huge amount of success
from that.
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It was weird.
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And so my life then switched into freedom
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and family mode, but it went too far.
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So my wife then said, You have to
do something better with your life.
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So I then switched to hyper drive.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, let's see.
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I started
I started investing to start ups.
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I had started to build an app,
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but that wasn't really fulfilling.
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So then a couple of my friends said, Hey,
can you show us how to hire staff
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in the Filippines
because it really helped you.
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Can you help us do the same for ourselves?
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So I launched this little
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hobby
and then their friend, they then referred
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their friends who then referred
their friends and it became a business.
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So then when we met fairly,
I was probably about two and a half years
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into this thing
that was supposed to be a hobby,
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but it took over my life and I was back
working 60, 70 hours a week
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only because I didn't say no
to new clients coming on
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and I didn't want to say
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no to people
that were actually asking for help.
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So I like
I think he used the word martyrdom
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earlier in a conversation
before we turned on the record.
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And I was very much helping other people,
but not helping myself yet,
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which I guess is a great route,
a deeper cause to that.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Untangled and pulled some weeds out
and Yeah yeah.
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So circling it back.
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Yeah my natural tendency is to I'd love
just to sit at a hotel or resort at home
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reading a book, listening to music,
going on runs and bike rides.
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But when I'm in work mode, I only work.
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I don't have balance. I would.
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And this is in the past.
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When we first met, yeah,
I would choose to turn on my laptop
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if I had a spare 10 minutes
waiting for my family or waiting at a cafe
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because I wanted to help the person
that was begging for my my help.
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Yeah.
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Which is very interesting
because I find that a lot of people
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who get into this busyness,
I mean, there's different reasons.
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There's usually three key themes,
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and one of them is the either
like the martyrdom or the rescue
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or a little bit of people
pleasing from the goodness of your heart.
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Like there's nothing wrong with that.
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And if you have a big heart
and more empathetic than that,
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it can be a bit of a rabbit
hole of burnout
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that is really common for people
like that.
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And so, yeah, doing that work around
that is super important.
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We started
talking about that because we were talking
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about the stress hormones,
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which and I felt like it was good
to contextualise that because it wasn't
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your natural tendency
to be like on all the time
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and say your stress hormones were doing
some really sweet things.
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Actually, I should have like put out.
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Not actually that I wouldn't
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want to pull out your test,
but basically you aren't necessarily
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in adrenal fatigue, so that's why you
stress hormones really start to deflate
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and they're kind of wiped out,
which occurs when someone has been
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burning the candle at both ends
or having different types of stresses.
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Impact their physiology.
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But you had a weird thing
where your cortisol was really low,
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so you were hardly producing
any of the fat flat hormone
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which can make you feel more
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fat and flighty because you're not
regulating very well anymore.
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But you also had super high DHEA.
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DHEA is the stress balancing hormone,
which should follow cortisol
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and bring it back into balance.
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But it was almost like your cortisol.
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So your fight or flight hormone
had depleted because you used it so much.
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But your DHEA, that balancing stress
hormone was hyperactive
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because it was trying
to bring cortisol back up.
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Just in case anyone wants to know
the science behind that.
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But it's super interesting
because those depEnding on where
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the levels are at, will depend
on what type of treatment you need.
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And also it just tells a story as well.
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So people like that
are often functioning like you still.
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You still doing
the things that you almost like
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trying to overcompensate
your body, failing you.
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That's kind of how it felt as well.
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It's like you still rocking out
to the meeting
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and still doing the things Toughens
and Pat it all once a week.
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Not very often
because you didn't like medication,
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but you know, but
still having these physiological symptoms.
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Yeah, I think what stood out to me as well
that once you gave me
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some scripts of some pills to take,
I can remember what they were.
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And then we had our regular check ins.
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I had I was really consistent
with taking everything that I should take.
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And then for for whatever
reason, stupidity most likely on my part,
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I stopped taking some of those pills
and you know, talking about the bio before
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the bio came back, I was like, Oh no.
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And I thought it was a sign that I needed
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to commit
more to the program that you set.
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Yeah.
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And sure enough, I then recommitted and,
you know,
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really ensured that I kept a spreadsheet
because, you know, you and I worked on.
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How do I then make sure I do this thing?
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Yes, I remember that. Yeah.
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So well. Yeah.
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Because you talk about being a people
pleaser.
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I am a people pleaser.
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That ability.
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Oh, I needed the accountability.
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I think actually this is a little bit
of a funny thing, but
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so Brian generously donates
to a lot of causes.
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And I said, excuse me,
if you have if you haven't even ticked off
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one of those things,
how much money are we donating like extra?
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I think we set out like thousands
of dollars for something you like.
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Yes. Okay.
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I needed it.
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But in the end, I
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think it took about three months before
I stopped getting the headaches before.
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So in the bio
and before my energy normalised.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Actually,
I was looking back at the notes before
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we caught up today,
just to remind myself too.
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But yeah,
I think even the first month or two,
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because I take very detailed notes
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and it's like,
Oh, I'm not feeling a lot of change yet.
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And sometimes too, it's just takes time,
like for things
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to start kicking in, especially
if we're taking a holistic approach.
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So we weren't just doing supplements,
you were changing your diet.
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I think we ditched coffee.
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Yes, gluten for a time.
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And so it's really up
to meditation as well
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because that was something
that you found beneficial
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in the past that had kind of dropped away
and that that you claimed
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a lot of results from two times meditation
a day.
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Hey, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
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Which makes sense.
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Going back to your lab tests,
you also start out with low serotonin,
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which is a really important brain chemical
that often gets burn out too.
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When you've been over doing the things
super important.
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Feel like a nice, stable, calm
mood throughout the day.
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So that probably then ramped up sort
of the anxiousness and the both readiness
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when you had meetings
and whenever that happened.
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Yeah.
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And then you had
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some gut stuff going on to say dysbiosis.
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So you had a really high
pathogenic bacteria.
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I forgot to write it down, but basically
it shouldn't, shouldn't have been
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higher than five units
and yours is at 235, which is huge.
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And I do remember that their body area
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disappeared when we started treating
that pathogenic bacteria.
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So if anyone's super smelly out there,
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it might just be the pathogenic
bugs in your gut.
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Yeah, it's all connected.
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Everything connected. It is.
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And it is all connected
and not even all the body systems,
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but the thoughts that
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we have create neural pathways,
which then create production of serotonin
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or dopamine or adrenaline and cortisol
and all the things.
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So it's looking at it holistically.
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Um, something else too, that showed up.
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It's a, this is interesting as well.
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So you said before
your GP tests were normal,
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even your liver was functioning fine.
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But when we did the functional medicine
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lab testing which looked at your detox
pathways via your urine,
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it showed out with super, super,
super low glutathione iron markers.
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I don't know if you remember
what glutathione is.
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Super. No, I don't.
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I don't think it I don't think
my doctor had that as a test either.
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Yeah. No, no.
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He said the doctor's
tests are a bit different in that. Yeah.
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More at the structure.
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Well like they really looking to see
if you have fatty liver disease.
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So they're looking
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at the structural enzymes at the level
where is the functional lab tests.
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Look at how well you're actually
clearing toxins from your body
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and looking at specific nutrients
that support good detoxification as well.
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So glutathione is one of them.
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And we've kind of been talking about root
causes.
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It's like, well,
what actually caused these body systems
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to burn out in the first place?
We've talked quite a bit about that.
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I think a big one for you
is stress and overworking
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and even like going back
to patterns of people pleasing
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and all that sort of stuff,
which ties into you then overworking.
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Yeah,
but you also have a lot of it's injury.
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You're doing yoga.
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Kubis Yeah, that was diagnosed
when your behaviour kicked.
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When I was 15,
I was hospitalised, yeah, with us.
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And then I took nine months off school
when I was 15 with Gilbert's.
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Yeah.
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Do you, what symptoms did you have
when you were hospitalised?
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Were you just really fit or.
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Yeah, it presented with massive fatigue.
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So I was sleeping 20 hours a day.
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I was jaundice
like yellow eyes, yellow skin,
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and it just took a long time
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to get my energy back so that I could
then just return to school.
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Yeah. Okay.
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And then after you recovered,
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you didn't have to take
any ongoing medication or anything.
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It just kind of like, got better,
is that right?
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Yeah, correct.
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I just. I have to.
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It's one of those things you live with
for the rest of your life.
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Yeah.
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So I just know that I need to
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talk to the functional medicine
expert here with family, but I need to.
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I need to have balance and have good gut
health.
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And I can't drink too much alcohol,
can't drink too much coffee.
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I can't get too stressed, because if I do
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straightaway, my eyes will turn yellow
and my skin will turn yellow.
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Yeah, and it's a good sign.
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It's a great sign. You can take it fast.
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Your wife is like you're yellow today.
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Bright. And what's going on? It's true.
00;24;43;29 - 00;24;47;16
Yeah, but I wanted to mention that to you,
because sometimes people are born
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with genetic issues
like genetic mutations or disorders.
00;24;51;12 - 00;24;55;07
And although we can tend
genetic mutations on or off.
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So exactly how you describe that, it's
like, well, if I'm not living in a way
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that's going to support my liver,
then I'm going to start turning that on
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and I'm going to get symptoms from it,
leaving away that you can then
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turn those mutations off basically
and not get the symptoms.
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But it was interesting too,
because your even your serotonin markers
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and then the detox markers
I mentioned were ultralow like
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low, low, low way
lower than what I would usually say.
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When I say that on a test, I always think,
00;25;25;02 - 00;25;29;03
is there something genetic going on
where your body's just more susceptible
00;25;29;03 - 00;25;32;10
to burning through these nutrients
for whatever reason?
00;25;32;10 - 00;25;34;06
And then I don't think you even told me
00;25;34;06 - 00;25;36;02
about Gilbert syndrome
in our first concert.
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I think that came up later
when we got the liver test
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talking like,
Oh yeah, I did have this thing of like
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that is a great piece of information
that makes a lot of sense.
00;25;45;12 - 00;25;47;10
Sorry, I should've told you earlier.
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That's like you didn't
tell me about the bio initially either.
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Oh, yeah, probably didn't.
00;25;51;05 - 00;25;52;05
That was an embarrassment thing.
00;25;52;05 - 00;25;55;01
I think that would that would. I would.
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Even though that cleared up directly
after doing gut work, it would
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it has to tie in to detoxification as well
I feel and so everything was just
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at a point where it was burning out
and you were getting a myriad of symptoms.
00;26;09;08 - 00;26;09;16
Yeah.
00;26;11;10 - 00;26;11;29
Okay.
00;26;11;29 - 00;26;16;03
So do
you have, I guess, like any specific Well,
00;26;16;05 - 00;26;18;20
all you've shared some of them,
but is there anything else
00;26;18;20 - 00;26;21;24
like when you realised
that things were actually working for you?
00;26;23;12 - 00;26;25;12
Like how did you feel in your body?
00;26;25;12 - 00;26;29;01
How did you show up in your life
tech as to those moments?
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Sure.
00;26;30;22 - 00;26;32;17
Well, I guess
00;26;33;05 - 00;26;36;22
you want to go with the most obvious
things that
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are recognisable to you between the eyes.
00;26;39;08 - 00;26;42;00
So, you know, when my son,
when I was going through this
00;26;42;24 - 00;26;45;15
literally said to me one day that you
00;26;45;23 - 00;26;48;02
you're never smiling
unless you're looking at me.
00;26;49;03 - 00;26;51;09
And it's like, Really?
00;26;51;09 - 00;26;54;21
He said, Yep, You just don't seem happy
unless you're looking at me.
00;26;55;19 - 00;26;59;02
But I watch you when you're working
or when you're with others
00;26;59;02 - 00;27;03;28
and you don't have that same smile and
your eyes are almost like they're dead.
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And I'm like, Oh, hey, little kid, You
know, a little seven year old at the time.
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So perceptive.
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I know.
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And then, you know,
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through the work with you, Fillip,
and with Chris as well,
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because I've had a few sessions
with Chris,
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he noticed such a big difference.
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And then he verbalised the difference
that he then saw.
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And I didn't want to prompt him,
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so I didn't ask him, Hey,
do you notice any difference?
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I just want to be showing up differently
and see whether he would then verbalise
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something because if he was willing to,
to verbalise the bad stuff, you know.
00;27;36;13 - 00;27;37;19
Hey, Dad, I've noticed this.
00;27;37;19 - 00;27;41;08
Would he be then, you know, recognising
and verbalise the good stuff.
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And he did so through the work with you
00;27;44;13 - 00;27;47;15
and with Chris and the meditation.
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It was fascinating to see, like my son
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noticing that.
00;27;53;23 - 00;27;55;15
And that's big.
00;27;55;22 - 00;27;57;09
That's yeah.
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And then other things that I noticed was
that I wasn't willing to I'm an introvert
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and I was not willing to go out to parties
or even to go for social runs
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with people.
00;28;06;27 - 00;28;09;17
If there's going to be more than five
or six people there.
00;28;09;17 - 00;28;12;12
And my wife would say,
Come on, let's go for this thing,
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whether it be a bike ride
or a run or dinner.
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And I'd literally say, well,
how many people are going?
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And if too many people were going,
00;28;20;11 - 00;28;23;23
my my whole body was telling me,
you can't go because there's
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too many people there and it's
going to raise your whatever it is inside
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your body to make it a stressful
situation, not a good situation.
00;28;32;01 - 00;28;33;04
So that was showing up.
00;28;33;04 - 00;28;35;26
And then through the work
with you and Chris,
00;28;35;26 - 00;28;37;16
I wasn't having those thoughts anymore.
00;28;38;16 - 00;28;40;13
I would get invited somewhere.
00;28;40;13 - 00;28;43;01
I was like, Oh wow, what a difference.
00;28;43;12 - 00;28;45;00
I actually want to go.
00;28;45;00 - 00;28;46;00
That's cool.
00;28;46;00 - 00;28;49;02
Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
00;28;49;12 - 00;28;54;12
I love, I love like, I love hearing
how people like, Oh yeah, didn't
00;28;54;12 - 00;28;59;19
get brain fog this month or only got one
headache as opposed to 20, you know.
00;28;59;19 - 00;29;00;13
Oh that's great.
00;29;00;13 - 00;29;04;04
But it's really like we have our health
so that we can experience life.
00;29;04;04 - 00;29;07;13
And really it's like around connection
with people that we love as well.
00;29;08;09 - 00;29;09;27
And so those stories are cool.
00;29;09;27 - 00;29;13;00
I remember when I don't know
if I've ever told you this,
00;29;13;00 - 00;29;16;22
but after I did
a lot of my functional medicine work,
00;29;18;14 - 00;29;20;16
I remember I was playing on the beach
00;29;20;16 - 00;29;22;20
with my girls
and I were pretty small at the time.
00;29;22;20 - 00;29;24;03
Poppy was maybe
00;29;25;06 - 00;29;25;29
how old was it?
00;29;25;29 - 00;29;27;07
Maybe five or six.
00;29;27;07 - 00;29;31;16
And she came up to me and she's like,
You're such a fun mom now.
00;29;31;16 - 00;29;33;11
I love it that you laugh and smile.
00;29;33;11 - 00;29;38;02
You used to be a really grumpy,
grumpy, angry mom all of the time.
00;29;38;02 - 00;29;41;04
And although that kind of like,
oh, a knife
00;29;41;04 - 00;29;44;05
to the heart, it was nice
that she could see the difference.
00;29;44;05 - 00;29;45;23
Like, I felt the difference.
00;29;45;23 - 00;29;47;08
But it's cool when your kids
00;29;47;08 - 00;29;50;00
are seeing the difference as well,
and they even express that to you.
00;29;50;09 - 00;29;51;27
They really tell you the truth,
don't they?
00;29;51;27 - 00;29;53;00
Yeah. Yeah.
00;29;53;00 - 00;29;55;09
They don't know how to filter
what they want to say.
00;29;55;22 - 00;29;56;08
Yeah.
00;29;56;19 - 00;29;57;13
So that's psycho.
00;29;57;13 - 00;30;00;27
Also, what would what was different,
00;30;00;27 - 00;30;03;25
I guess, in terms of our approach
to functional medicine,
00;30;04;22 - 00;30;09;28
what we now call the Ending body
burnout method approach. So
00;30;11;03 - 00;30;11;28
first things first.
00;30;11;28 - 00;30;13;28
I'd never heard
of what functional medicine was,
00;30;13;28 - 00;30;15;18
so it was only when we were in a
00;30;15;18 - 00;30;18;06
in a different session,
not one on one, but we in a group session
00;30;18;17 - 00;30;21;26
and you were talking about what
you actually do and how you help people
00;30;22;04 - 00;30;24;09
that I realised
that someone like you exists.
00;30;25;08 - 00;30;28;07
Before that I thought that was
00;30;28;07 - 00;30;31;19
mindset coaches that can help you meditate
or thought it was dieticians
00;30;31;19 - 00;30;33;00
or nutritionists.
00;30;33;00 - 00;30;35;10
I didn't know the profession
like yours existed.
00;30;35;23 - 00;30;40;10
Yeah, but then when you talked
about the process that you go through
00;30;40;28 - 00;30;44;15
and then the benefits
that some of your clients then experience,
00;30;45;00 - 00;30;48;07
it was a big one of these massive
aha moments of,
00;30;48;07 - 00;30;53;05
Oh wow, you go to the real depths
of what's going on in someone's
00;30;53;05 - 00;30;56;05
body, not the surface level stuff or just
what you're putting into your body.
00;30;56;10 - 00;30;57;29
How's your body reacting?
00;30;57;29 - 00;31;01;09
Yeah, to food, to life, to stressors.
00;31;02;12 - 00;31;05;05
And yeah, I think I grabbed you and Chris
00;31;05;05 - 00;31;09;00
by the arms is like I have to become
a client of yours like it was me.
00;31;09;11 - 00;31;10;18
Take my credit card.
00;31;10;18 - 00;31;13;13
It was. It was like that.
00;31;13;26 - 00;31;15;03
And yeah,
00;31;15;03 - 00;31;17;03
I'm glad we went through that process
because
00;31;18;20 - 00;31;21;08
even once I gave you my credit card,
00;31;21;12 - 00;31;23;25
I still didn't realise at the time
that the sort of level of testing
00;31;23;25 - 00;31;26;24
that we were going to be doing,
like the saliva, the way in the poo. Yeah.
00;31;26;24 - 00;31;28;10
And that was quite confronting to be
00;31;28;10 - 00;31;32;20
at home doing these tests and then sEnding
them back to you in a in a parcel.
00;31;32;26 - 00;31;34;24
Yeah. Oh they didn't come to us.
00;31;34;24 - 00;31;37;00
I don't know if I told you
I go to that guys. Yeah.
00;31;37;00 - 00;31;41;06
That it would have to be maybe more
awkward if I'm like, oh he's Brian's too.
00;31;41;06 - 00;31;43;26
Oh lovely.
Thank goodness you just get the results.
00;31;44;25 - 00;31;46;17
I'd actually love to work in the labs.
00;31;46;17 - 00;31;50;11
Think it'd be great.
00;31;50;11 - 00;31;53;29
But then, yeah, the way you then
took the results and you broke it down.
00;31;53;29 - 00;31;58;12
I don't think I had ever seen anyone
do that before because all of my past
00;31;58;12 - 00;32;01;19
physicians, they never would have gone
to that level of detail.
00;32;01;19 - 00;32;06;03
So yeah, it's one of these things,
I guess I hope that GP's physicians
00;32;06;03 - 00;32;09;19
give you lots of referrals
because they can only take it so far.
00;32;09;19 - 00;32;14;00
They can't take it to the next functional
level, which is then changing how people
00;32;15;29 - 00;32;17;07
operate their day,
00;32;17;07 - 00;32;19;14
their sleep, their food intake,
00;32;20;16 - 00;32;24;00
which is really
at the heart of the issues.
00;32;24;09 - 00;32;26;13
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00;32;26;13 - 00;32;29;25
Awesome. Well, thank you so much.
00;32;29;26 - 00;32;32;21
Thank you so much for jumping on
and sharing your story, by the way,
00;32;32;21 - 00;32;36;00
because I know that a lot of people,
you know, this is private stuff,
00;32;36;15 - 00;32;39;20
so super grateful
that you're happy to share.
00;32;39;20 - 00;32;44;05
And I know that, like so many people,
will benefit from even the fact that it's
00;32;44;05 - 00;32;48;09
possible to do everything that you've done
naturally and get the results.
00;32;48;09 - 00;32;50;21
And you did it in a pretty short
period of time as well.
00;32;51;08 - 00;32;51;25
Yeah.
00;32;51;26 - 00;32;54;17
So if there's anyone else
like listening out there
00;32;54;17 - 00;32;57;23
that's struggling with body burn
and or stuck in a cycle,
00;32;57;23 - 00;32;58;11
or maybe they've been
00;32;58;11 - 00;33;01;24
trying a bunch of stuff and
they're just not really going anywhere.
00;33;02;09 - 00;33;05;27
Do you have any words of wisdom
for people like that?
00;33;06;16 - 00;33;07;02
Yeah, sure.
00;33;07;02 - 00;33;11;07
Just like I recommended my wife
speak with you and some friends in town
00;33;11;07 - 00;33;13;18
I think are currently working with you
at the moment.
00;33;13;18 - 00;33;16;27
Just just jump
on a call with Filly because
00;33;17;28 - 00;33;18;24
you don't have to
00;33;18;24 - 00;33;23;12
keep going through that brain
fog or the headaches or the lack of energy
00;33;23;25 - 00;33;26;20
or the lack of
wanting to go out outside your house.
00;33;27;10 - 00;33;30;22
You can be a far more productive,
happier person
00;33;31;06 - 00;33;33;20
just by going to the root
cause of the issues.
00;33;33;26 - 00;33;36;21
And you can only do that, I think,
through the functional medicine part.
00;33;36;23 - 00;33;39;29
I don't think you can do it
through specialist appointments
00;33;39;29 - 00;33;41;19
or through your GP's.
00;33;41;19 - 00;33;43;19
I think this is the specialist
appointment.
00;33;43;19 - 00;33;44;09
Most people need.
00;33;44;09 - 00;33;45;18
They need to come and
00;33;45;18 - 00;33;48;19
get into the nitty gritty
of the functional medicine side with you.
00;33;49;16 - 00;33;52;01
I certainly wish
I had have come five or six years earlier
00;33;52;12 - 00;33;55;01
when I was before I had hired
00;33;55;01 - 00;33;58;10
my own Vas, my other business
00;33;58;10 - 00;34;01;02
because I was going through
the similar patterns back then.
00;34;01;23 - 00;34;03;09
Yeah, yeah.
00;34;03;09 - 00;34;06;07
At least I now know that
if I ever head down that path again,
00;34;06;07 - 00;34;08;22
if something goes out of control,
I've got you in my corner.
00;34;09;05 - 00;34;10;09
Yeah, yeah.
00;34;10;09 - 00;34;15;08
And also like along the way too, with us
and also sure with your mindset coach too,
00;34;15;08 - 00;34;19;18
just learning the strategies
to self regulate and to course. Correct.
00;34;19;18 - 00;34;23;18
So it doesn't we love, we do love
doing maintenance testing as well.
00;34;23;18 - 00;34;26;22
Kind of like just have a little
look under the bonnet car service.
00;34;26;22 - 00;34;31;22
But essentially you should be able
to live a long and happy, healthy life
00;34;32;11 - 00;34;35;08
with all the tools that you now have,
00;34;36;08 - 00;34;37;03
which is great.
00;34;37;03 - 00;34;38;27
Awesome. Yeah.
00;34;39;06 - 00;34;40;21
Well, thank you so much.
00;34;40;21 - 00;34;41;22
Thanks, Filly.
00;34;42;02 - 00;34;45;07
We will chat.
00;34;45;07 - 00;34;47;15
Thank you very much.
I'm glad I was here with you.
00;34;47;15 - 00;34;56;13
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