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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending Body Burnout Show, where your hosts, Chris and Philly co-founders of multi award winning Functional Medicine Practice, serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
Well, busyness, overworking, addictive doing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root, root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements, hoping something might stick.
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Filly
So get ready to heal your body, get your spot back deeply, connect with yourself and step into the life of your dreams. Let's dive in.
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Chris
Welcome. Welcome to the ending Body Burnout show. I am Chris Boulet and I am your host. I'm here with Phillipa Boulet, my wife.
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Filly
Hello.
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Chris
Where founders of Health Practice, Chris and Philly Functional Medicine based in Latrobe, Tasmania. We operate everywhere, all around Australia and perhaps even in your part of the world as well. We specialise in helping busy people with energy, mood and gut issues. And today we're going to talk about Philly, your story and your your dealings and balancing the demands of work and family and your own body burnout story.
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Chris
Yep, Pretty cool. Pretty excited to share this with you. Let's, let's start with first signs.
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Filly
Yeah. Okay. So I used to think that my body burn out started after having kids, but looking back in hindsight, there were definitely signs and signals that things weren't quite right in my nervous system. So when I was a teenager, actually even going before that as a kid, I was quite shy, anxious, wouldn't have used those terms back then, but pretty low self-confidence and constantly feeling a bit like a duck out of water.
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Filly
I don't know if that's the same. Anyway, I went to high school that was challenging, you know.
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Chris
Scared of.
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Filly
Water, that kind of fish out of water at the high school. Also, it caused some insecurities as well, but all of a sudden I didn't really try at all. I just started getting good grades and of course, getting all these like lovely external validation back from teachers and parents and friends. Oh, Philly, you're so smart. And then that led me to developing some pretty addictively doing it.
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Filly
Patterns high achieving, overachieving, constantly couldn't feel like I could relax or stop. I always had to do more and do more. Anyway, what ended up happening is I started developing these patterns where I was fainting, fitting and then killing myself. And this would usually happen when I was like physically stressed. So even when I was pulling of a Band-Aid off my leg, I remember one time in the shower naked when I was 16 years old, or maybe 14, not really remember.
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Filly
And I was pulling off a Band-Aid and I fainted in the shower. And I must have made a massive thump as I fell out of the shower and the door slammed open because my dad came running in. And I was so embarrassed as a teenager that my dad saw me naked. So that was the first episode. And that actually started becoming a pattern and happening quite often.
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Filly
Anyway, my mum, who was a nurse, thought at the worst she has a brain tumour. You know, maybe she didn't, but she took me around to all the doctors, a specialist. They did scans and MRI's ultrasounds, trying to find something in my brain and in the end they couldn't really find anything. And the doctor said, Oh, you just have vessel vagal episodes where your nervous system isn't regulating stress very well and all you need to do is wiggle your fingers and toes when you feel like you're about to start fainting, which actually did help, although I continue to faint in pain myself.
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Filly
But it definitely wasn't getting to the root as to why I was developing those symptoms in the first place.
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Chris
Can we ask a question? What? What is very vagal syncope?
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Filly
Yeah, it's to do well, it's to do with your nervous system and also your blood pressure. So I couldn't regulate my nervous system and my blood pressure very effectively. And so I'd kind of like drop really low really fast when I was feeling some sort of physical stress, which then my physiological response to that was fainting. And not everyone fits and pays themselves, but that's why they ended up doing a lot of tests looking into like, you know, maybe you have epilepsy or something like that as well.
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Chris
Yeah, right.
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Filly
Yeah. So also as a teenager, definitely signs of hormonal issues or I didn't get my period until I was about 17, I think super late. And then when I did, I only got a period every 3 to 6 months hormonal issues, acne, which didn't help with the self-confidence issues either. And then we later met and got married and hormonal stuff continued.
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Filly
And you know, or to tell you the truth, I didn't actually care not getting a period. It was great. Like all my friends were like, Oh, I've got my period again every three weeks or four weeks. Whereas I'm like, Yeah, I haven't bled for six months. It's great until we want it to fall pregnant. Hey.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Filly
Yeah. So we decided to make a baby, but it didn't happen very well and I think we were trying for about two years. And in the end, again went and saw the GP gynaecologist did a bunch of tests. I was diagnosed with PCOS, which matched quite a lot of my symptoms and I had no idea about natural therapies back then.
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Filly
I remember I had a friend I called her Crazy Susie, I really like to write. She was always just like big. I like weed ideas around, like you can heal this stuff naturally. And I'm like, Nah, I don't think so. So I definitely went down the medical route and they ended up not doing IVF, but climate, which helped me to ovulate.
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Filly
We fell pregnant, then had a miscarriage, which was super sad, and then about six months later I fell pregnant again and we had Poppy. So Puffy came along and well.
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Chris
Can we just back it up a little bit?
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Filly
Back it up, Yeah.
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Chris
So you've got these patterns of, of doing and pursuing excellence and achieving and that sort of stuff. It sounds like a pattern even carried over into your healing and your and trying to have a baby you just like, get it done, Let's do it. This is what I want and this is what's going to happen.
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Filly
Give me the drug. Let's do.
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Chris
It. Yeah. Do you think that was.
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Filly
Even the way that we approached or I approached making a baby as well? Let's do it. Yeah, well, actually, part of that, too, is we were living it living in Sydney at the time, and Chris had a personal training business which I was over exercising, which probably wasn't helping with the fertility side of things, But yeah, it was and doing it at the same time.
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Filly
So there was a lot of ah, even doing overachieving go, go, go, go, go. Which you know, it makes complete sense that my body wasn't able or ready to have a baby.
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Chris
Right. So, so fast forward to Baby two.
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Filly
Thousand and 12. We had Puppy that was a three day layover at a I actually wanted to do it unnaturally because I was looking at it, reading books around like hypnotherapy didn't go down the track of working with anyone. Although I wish I did, but that was a traumatic birth. So three day Labour then ended up having an epidural suction cup.
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Filly
You could tell the story about the suction cup. That's a bit funny. Doctors put the suction coffee in and jeepers creepers.
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Chris
That was traumatic. That was crazy. But childbirth is brutal, isn't it? It's just as many. I guess there's there's plenty of people who have beautiful experiences, but then really at its heart is it is just so primal. It's just astounds me that the blood, the the noises.
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Filly
Were basically the suction cup got stuck on Poppy's head and the the doctor went fly.
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Chris
You want me to go into details? You're on.
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Filly
The other side of the room.
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Chris
Right? Okay. So, Steph, sorry, Philly. Philly was not letting go. Yeah, it was the bad. Poppy was. Poppy was stuck inside and. And she wasn't coming out. Doctor used a suction cup and it just never forget that noise. Hey, like it just. He was. He was looking at me and he fell on the floor and it snapped and he looked up and he's like, Chris, I don't I think you said Chris, but he's like, It's broken.
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Chris
I'm like, No, I know it's broken. I can see you on the floor now. Like, you're looking up at me and holding onto this thing. Whoa, Why are you looking at me? I need to get it out. I'm like, Well, I'm. I'm not getting it. I don't know how to do this.
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Filly
So then the forceps.
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Chris
And so, Yeah, well, he reached in there, He reached in, and he grabbed the suction cup. He grabbed it. And I remember I was like this like Pop came out in his hands. And then next next up is forceps and.
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Filly
Yeah.
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Chris
Pulled.
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Filly
Yeah, yeah. And what Chris said, like again, we always think about patterns. So what caused your body systems to burn out in the first place? What led to them? The symptoms. And like, the pattern was I wasn't letting go. I was so stuck in V when I was having a baby that my body was chronically in pain. Like, I've heard other stories where there's waves of pain when the contractions come and then it's like, hi.
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Filly
And then it's like, Oh, contractions. And then it's like, Oh, and I experienced none of that because my system was just in such a state of overdrive going right back from like probably teenage years. So anyway, yeah, the forceps came. I had a lot of tearing up my vagina and Ben couldn't pay. Couldn't pay? Yeah. The big thing was for about three days I did not urinate and the nurses kept coming up to me in the hospital and they're like, Have you gone to the toilet yet, dear?
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Chris
Well, it's no longer. It was like weeks.
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Filly
Wasn't that long.
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Chris
Felt like, Wait.
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Filly
No, it was definitely days. Maybe even 48 hours. But they said it, but I thought they were talking about poos. And I'm like, Oh, no, I haven't. I haven't gone to the toilet yet. They were talking about poos because people pee after they have babies but not poo until they do. And so anyway, in the end we figured out or they figured out that I hadn't actually urinated, put a catheter into my pillow and like ladies and ladies and ladies of urine came out.
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Filly
And so from then on, for about four months, I had no sensation to urinate, like I couldn't push out even a drop of pee. And so I had to have an internal catheter in which then as a preventative, the doctor prescribed me antibiotics, which I was on every day, 24 seven, just to stop getting UTIs from having the catheter.
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Filly
But what ended up happening is I probably got about three UTIs was back in the hospital I.V. Antibiotics multiple times. And so I wasn't very well and Poppy wasn't very well either.
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Chris
So the now there's always a positive in everything. And and so in this time that Philae was just corked, um, Poppy and I even said she was days old, weeks old, months old. We we started our relationship as a very close knit bond. It still continues today. Poppy and I are super tight, super tight, super close. And I think that it started started there when when Phil was sick.
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Filly
You were pretty much mum and dad. I was just the milkmaid.
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Chris
It was a preview of the bird.
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Filly
Because my body just felt really broken. I wasn't coping mentally and Poppy had a lot of reflux as well, so she was crying all the time. Unless she was asleep, we'd have to like, rock her to.
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Chris
Settle a settle a tummy.
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Filly
So really loud music for her to go to sleep.
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Chris
She Yeah.
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Filly
So anyway, after all of that, my body like physically healed in terms of the trauma from the birth. But what ended up happening was month by month I just started developing all these other symptoms. So even previously before that I had some heartburn issues, but all the gut stuff got a lot worse. All the hormonal issues got a lot worse.
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Filly
I then started having postnatal depression and immune system was shot. So previous before that I catch the random cold or flu once a year, but oh my gosh, every two weeks I'd be catching another thing and then getting over it and then catching another thing. And that was really impacting my energy levels because I constantly felt ill and and I think Poppy was six months old when I injured my back.
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Filly
I did a stupid thing at the gym. Actually, it wasn't even at the gym. It was just at home.
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Chris
Exacerbated at the gym. Continue to push through.
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Filly
Yeah. And that was the doing. It's like not I could do this sort of stuff before kids. I'm going to do it now. I'm going to get I'm going to bounce back. I'm going to get my body back and chronically hurt my back. But it didn't really improve for until I started doing functional medicine about eight months later.
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Filly
So, you know, I saw physios and osteopath and even got some scans done and no one could find anything. They're like, We can't see anything that's actually broken inside you. And they just said, Just give it time. But it was just a massive sign that my body wasn't healing. There was so much inflammation in my whole nervous system was so highly strung that I was physically feeling pain.
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Chris
We told about this bit. Don't we feel with signs like these are the signs that there's something something at play here, isn't there? There's there's patterns starting to have a pattern. What is a pattern? The pattern is something that we do or that we do. We act out or think about, you know, something like that. But it crosses contexts.
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Chris
And so this this pattern is crossing context for you. It's universally marvellous in study. Then it's also around family giving birth, around body and approach to, to healing. The pattern is all about was all about doing it and going and chasing and. Mm.
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Filly
Yeah yeah.
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Chris
Do do do equals have.
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Filly
Yeah. Yeah. And I think I was fighting against the health issues because I'd heard stories too. It's like, oh yeah, you know, you'll be better, just give it time. Like even GP's are saying that Oh yeah, you're just a new mum, this is normal.
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Chris
So in your.
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Filly
Head. But then month by month until Poppy turned one and I remember I got a book, I was actually given a book called Date Nutrition, and even before I read that book, I'm like, I feel like an 80 year old. I am not getting better. I am getting worse with time. There is something seriously wrong inside my body and currently I'm just hanging roadblocks with, you know, physios GP's and I'm like, I got to look at a different approach.
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Filly
So I read this book called Date Nutrition, which just like lit the gave me the spark of the potential of natural therapies. It was basically all around, you can eat really healthy and your body can heal, you can use food as medicine. I mean, now I like kind of like brush that I like it. But back then it was it was like that was a.
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Chris
Massive concept for.
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Filly
Massive concept and I same pattern. I'm like, I'm going to do this. And I just like, totally cleaned out our kitchen, like, let's get rid of the Weet-Bix and the cereal bowls and the white bread and the chocolate chip cookies. And I fell. And then I'm like, our kitchen became a lab. So I started, like, fermenting and sprouting, and I even was able to access some raw milk and I was making my own fermented yoghurts and cheese and all these sort of stuff and over time, inflammation levels definitely got better.
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Filly
I definitely felt a lot better, probably like a year later, which is then when we're like, okay, yeah, ready to have another baby got pregnant again this time really easily, which was fantastic because before with all the infertility issues, it was just a testament that things had shifted in my system. And then we had Elsie and this time I was like, This is going to be so much better.
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Filly
I'm looking after myself. I'm eating so well, I'm feeling better. Elsie came along. It was a C-section. This time. I chose that because I still had trauma that I hadn't dealt with, which we know so much about, not about what happens in the body when you don't address repressed emotions. It was at some point come up through your body anyway.
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Filly
Didn't know any of that back then. All I knew was that food was like the golden child. It was going to heal everything. I love food, but it can only get so far for some people. So anyway, Elsie came along. I felt good actually. It was just like, Wow, is this what it feels like to have a newborn baby that slates and doesn't cry all the time?
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Filly
And I feel pretty good even though I was healing from the C-section. So same pattern. It's like all right, cool. Well, let's get back into business and let's start doing more stuff. And I think I was studying nutritional medicine at the time then as well, because I wanted to become a practitioner and rather than giving myself a nice period, even like a month or two of just like being a new mom and, and healing, I just drove back into life.
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Filly
Also, we had a toddler. Chris had a gym. You'll hear his story next week, but he wasn't at home hardly at ever. And so literally, after about a month, all the same symptoms came again. And this time, like the pain came back, the heartburn, the hormonal issues, the lower immunity sucked. And this time, instead of like low mood depression, I developed full blown anxiety like I was having panic attacks.
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Filly
I had no I really had no idea what was going on. And I was so embarrassed that this was happening to me, but that I don't think I even shared how I was really feeling. So I to Chris, definitely not to my parents or my family or to anyone else, I kind of just felt like I had to soldier on and.
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Chris
Push.
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Filly
Push, push, push, push again and something else around that not forgot to.
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Chris
Ignore. Ignoring the signals and the signs that that were popping up and that you were going past and just continuing to do, ignoring the signs going past them. Mm I was. I have this analogy in my mind slowly driving down the street and there's a red light or give way sign or something like that. Stop, slow down. And if we ignore those signs and crash don't we.
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Chris
And that's I guess that's what you're describing is that I, you're ignoring the signs and then you're coming head on collision with body burn out.
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Filly
Yeah, I think there was shame and guilt as well because I'm like, oh, now, you know, I had a business that my first business was called Happy Buyer. Erm and I'm like yeah, I'm, I thought I was healed and now I'm not. So what's going on? And, and then there was a, there was a bit of embarrassment around that but also to the anxiety became out through anger like I was the dragon mom, I was screaming at my kids and I told Lemon and my newborn baby when.
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Chris
Husband.
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Filly
And husband when I shouldn't like that there was nothing that they were doing that really, you know, should have led to that. And so I think that really scared me. And I'm like, okay, cool. I've got my my food in check. Obviously, I haven't got it. And so I have to dig a bit deeper. And that's when I came across randomly through a health summit that I signed up to Dr. Daniel Kailash.
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Filly
And he started talking, he was talking about functional medicine and he was showing these amazing lab tests and these results and like you can you can test for parasites and you can look at your brain and you can test for your detox pathways. And I was just like, Whoa, oh, my gosh. I mean, I'm very I love details.
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Filly
I like that science and having the.
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Chris
Source.
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Filly
And having the scientific data to say, to give validation that it's not just all in my head because I kind of started feeling like maybe it is because I was getting brushed off by lots of other people. And so I wanted to work with him straight away, but I had to wait because I had to wait until I finished my nutritional medicine degree and then became a qualified practitioner and then I became his student.
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Filly
But as part of that three or four year mentorship, he helped me to heal my own body as well. So I did a bunch of lab tests. Any of our clients that have worked with us, I always pull up the body systems map and there's about 17 different areas of the body that we can test for that are super important for optimal health.
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Chris
And those times of when you when you're at this depths and when you started working with Dr.. It's like what will happen in between now and then we'll.
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Filly
Kind of need to talk about COVID 2020. It's like my heartburn disappeared. That had been happening for the ten or 15 years I started getting regular cycle, my back pain. It calmed down so all my symptoms got so much better for about three or four years. But what I found was I still kind of felt like I had to live as if I was wrapped up in cotton, cotton wool, like if I if I didn't sleep very well at night or if I had a lot going on and there was extra stress, these little symptoms that kind of like popping their head up again and sorry, although although I would have professed that of hued
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Filly
myself with functional medicine if I'm being truly honest, there were things still under the surface that still weren't quite right. So then COVID 2020 happen. You loved COVID.
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Chris
Hay was the best. I hated it. I fell. We'll talk about me later. But. But I think. Yeah, Let's talk about you.
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Filly
Okay? Yeah. Yeah. It's it's cool. We get to share Chris's story because we have, like, really different ones.
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Chris
Makes.
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Filly
Up. So next episode. Okay, so Cove in 2020 happened I, I bought into the fee based everything. So we had a gym at the time as well as I had my own kind of like I was just practising functional medicine and my happy Byron which is all around toxin free skincare and cleaning products. But yeah, so the gym was shut down because of lockdown.
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Filly
The kids were at home, so I was homeschooling. There was a period where I just freaked out. I thought the world was going to end and especially I freaked out about finances. I want to do a whole podcast on money, but I was just like, Oh my gosh, how are we going to survive? And I just went into like Psycho Empowered and at the same time to we really wanted to create.
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Filly
Chris in Philly, Functional Medicine was born in 2020 because it had been a goal for us for a long time to offer a holistic way of healing.
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Chris
Before lockdown that was yeah.
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Filly
Before lockdown and lockdown gave us the space to do it. So that was a huge blessing. But for me, Chris loved it and he loved the whole experience. But for me it was really scary as well because it's like, Oh, we're going to have to do something different. We're going to have to recreate this and we're going to have to rebrand and we're going to have to do another website and we're going to have to like create this rise Up protocol was our first program.
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Chris
It hit my needs for variety and.
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Filly
Bit like that, but I was just like way too much change. So anyway, again, symptoms flared up again and this time full on insomnia. Like I was having bouts of night after night after night where I could not sleep, heartburn came back, anxiety, female hormone issues, all the things. And I was really frustrated. But at the same time I'm like, Oh, I get it.
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Filly
There's been a lot of stress. It's all good. Philly, you got this. Let's run the lab test again. I did this time. I actually know there was stuff that showed up, including CBD, and I'm like, Okay, cool. But there was a bunch of stuff that was totally fine. Like, I'm like, Where are the parasites? Where's the candida? Where's the huge pylori?
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Filly
Why is the Hage pylori not back? And I've got heartburn again. So a bunch of stuff, right. Remained fine from a physical level on the lab tests but I just like clutched it any little imbalance and I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do this hardcore SIBO elemental diet, which was two weeks of no food. I'm going to do this.
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Filly
I did all the protocols again with supplements and diets. This time nothing changed. The heartburn was still there. I was not regulating or able to regulate my stress hormones like my nervous system. Sleep got better, but there were still periods where it's just like full on insomnia. And so then now the learning, it's like, okay, Philly still haven't got to the root cause.
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Filly
It's kind of like the food thing again. I thought food had solved the problem. And so then that led me into kind of like I was pulled into this by Chris. So Chris is Chris's genius within our business, in our practice is really diving into the deeper in a healing work. He'd done that I hadn't. I thought I was fine because I was very good at doing things and sticking to a plan, but I hadn't had any investigated or uncovered any of these weed patterns that were stressing out my nervous system anyway.
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Filly
So I ended up doing a coaching program for six months with a coach, Jamie Fraser, which really got to the bottom of like my beliefs and the stories I was telling myself. And four and a half months into that magic moment, heartburn disappeared. Anxiety disappeared. A few more months later after that sleep and like a baby. And it's like, yes, finally my body could heal.
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Filly
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Chris
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